How did Softball’s stock advice go...

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:36 am

The Dow closed at over 28,500 today.

Just a bit higher than his prediction. Hopefully though no one took his advice of leaving the market and instead follows the advice of a qualified money manager.

Is anyone other than Softball surprised though that he was wrong and missed so badly?

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:16 am

Yet another prognostication gone flat.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:27 am

I did not give advice, I simply -----> called MY shot.

poptart wrote:I am calling my shot.

Dow drops 30% by December 25th.
A conservative estimate.
I personally think it will be more than that.

And this major move down will probably begin much sooner than the 25th of December.
Imo.

But I will go on record right now.

Dow down at least 30% by 12/25/19.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=50551

I remain...

70% cash
30% market short

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:31 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:27 am I did not give advice, I simply -----> called MY shot.

poptart wrote:I am calling my shot.

Dow drops 30% by December 25th.
A conservative estimate.
I personally think it will be more than that.

And this major move down will probably begin much sooner than the 25th of December.
Imo.

But I will go on record right now.

Dow down at least 30% by 12/25/19.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=50551

I remain...

70% cash
30% market short

Wow!
Called your shot?
You're not a genius. The market goes in cycles.
Up down up down. Up down.
Doesn't matter who the prez is.
Haven't you realized that yet?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 1:21 pm

If you look at my thread you'll see that nobody called their shot on the market.
Just me.

That's fine.

I give Pickle props, though, because he DID call his shot in another thread when I prompted him to.
He got it right.

Rack him!

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:12 pm

You can say you weren’t offering advice, but you were calling anyone in the market dumb, stupid, etc.

Your stated positions have lost you money and kept your growth from being higher. But hey you do you.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:35 pm

We "called our shots" by remaining calm and invested with diverse portfolios.

My guess is the market and economy remain strong, so long as adults who understand our economy is still driven by fossil fuels, remain in charge.

I think next year will be good, because the chinks will see the writing on the wall, realize that TBOM isn't going anywhere real soon and will deal fairly with us.

The one thing I hope to see, but ain't holding my breath for is the put a dent in the deficit. This is the one area where Trump had been a miserable failure. I realize he can't do it by himself, but he could have done more.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:00 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:35 pm The one thing I hope to see, but ain't holding my breath for is the put a dent in the deficit. This is the one area where Trump had been a miserable failure. I realize he can't do it by himself, but he could have done more.

Lol, don't hold your breath. Deficits matter only when Ds are in charge.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:30 pm

Deficits do matter. Even when an Orange madman is in charge.

He should, at a minimum demand congress halve the deficit. I would prefer bringing it to zero. I believe the economy is healthy enough to do it.

My other pet peeve with TBOM is his telling the fed to drop rates to artificially low levels again.

Obama needed that trick to breath some life into his lackluster alleged economic recovery. Sadly, we are now hooked on that drug.

Anyone else out there remember when 8% was a great mortgage rate?

We have become accustomed to 3.5-4. If we ever get back to 6-7, the real estate market will implode.....again.

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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:41 pm

The difference is that Obummer nominated Fed officials who decided in their professional expertise to lower interest rates to goose the economy. Obummer let these professionals operate without interference from the executive branch.

On the contrary, Trump nominated his own hand picked Fed chief but continues to act like the facist asshole he is, bombarding Powell to lower interest rates with every opportunity. Thankfully Jerome Powell is smarter and cares more about our nation than Trump and his enablers, who just want more money in their wallets and don't care about destroying the economy.

You are welcome for this GOP Econ 101 lesson.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 pm

So if it isn’t artificially lowered interest rates then it must be the tax cuts that are driving this good economy.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:56 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 pm So if it isn’t artificially lowered interest rates then it must be the tax cuts that are driving this good economy.

We're still riding Obummer's economy. Deep State, and all.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:02 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:56 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 pm So if it isn’t artificially lowered interest rates then it must be the tax cuts that are driving this good economy.
We're still riding Obummer's economy. Deep State, and all.

Christmas morning and you are hitting the crack pipe pretty early. Any other brilliant observations ??

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:21 pm

So it’s Obama’s until it crashes?

How nice for you.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:00 pm

Do you have to lie about everything?

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:19 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:00 pm
smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:35 pm The one thing I hope to see, but ain't holding my breath for is the put a dent in the deficit. This is the one area where Trump had been a miserable failure. I realize he can't do it by himself, but he could have done more.
Lol, don't hold your breath. Deficits matter only when Ds are in charge.

LMFAO!!!!
Thanks for the Christmas laugh you low IQ brainwashed cocksucker.

ONLY when democrats are in charge????
LMFAO!

Congress is in charge of the purse. Demo rats have controlled congress the MAJORITY of the past century.

But I digress.....

Barry the Chicago community street pimp let a 8,3 trillion dollar debt explode to 20 trillion!
As commander in chief, he could've brought all the troops home and ended these wars.
Instead he chose to continue to blow trillions of dollars over 8 years.
The mere fact that you don't understand that, is priceless!
ALL those years when demo rats spent spent and spent, and you just blamed it on the GOP.

There are no words to Express the kind of dirtbag serial lying fool that you are.
Thankfully, the logical board members already know what kind of myopic clown you are.

There is good news though.

We now have 400 years of energy that we can export.
This energy should easily begin to chip away at our debt as we sell it to the rest of the world.
In theory.

Plus, unlike barry the Chicago community street pimp, trump is bringing the troops home, and effectively bringing an end to the disastrous foreign policy under obammy and kerry and Hillary.

You stupid vermin you.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:44 pm

Derron wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:02 pm Christmas morning and you are hitting the crack pipe pretty early. Any other brilliant observations ??

Would rather be smoking glass with the Duhron family!

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:32 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:56 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 pm So if it isn’t artificially lowered interest rates then it must be the tax cuts that are driving this good economy.
We're still riding Obummer's economy. Deep State, and all.

Oh.
So the good economy is because of Obama's policies during his run?

So by your sick logic, Bill Clinton was riding Reagan's policies.
You fuckin idiot!
You can't have it both ways stooge.

Bottom line?
It's all trump.
His policies have opened up things. Allowing the engines to roar.
Obama folliwed shit FDR, who never got the economy going.
WW II was the saving grace.

Trump is the juggernaut we needed to go full steam ahead.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm

LS wrote:Your stated positions have lost you money and kept your growth from being higher. But hey you do you.

You gain or lose when you decide to -----> cash out.

You people crowing about the alleged "great economy" could not be more deluded and/or ignorant.

Economic data has been not only bad over the past number of months, but it has been HORRENDOUS.
Getting worse.

Further, MASSIVE bank bailouts continue to escalate, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars daily.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/10/ ... a-snoozes/

https://fortune.com/2019/09/26/the-feds ... over-time/

Are you Trump dipshits even aware of this?

Massive deficit spending.
Interest rates jacked back down, with your dear leader pimping negative rates as the way to go.

Massive bank bailouts ongoing and escalating.

It is an economic freak show of the highest order.

Oh well...

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:40 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm
LS wrote:Your stated positions have lost you money and kept your growth from being higher. But hey you do you.
You gain or lose when you decide to -----> cash out.

You people crowing about the alleged "great economy" could not be more deluded and/or ignorant.

Economic data has been not only bad over the past number of months, but it has been HORRENDOUS.
Getting worse.

Further, MASSIVE bank bailouts continue to escalate, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars daily.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/10/ ... a-snoozes/

https://fortune.com/2019/09/26/the-feds ... over-time/

Are you Trump dipshits even aware of this?

Massive deficit spending.
Interest rates jacked back down, with your dear leader pimping negative rates as the way to go.
Massive bank bailouts ongoing and escalating.

It is an economic freak show of the highest order.

Oh well...

Let me ask you.

Why then do Democrats deny the 12 trillion racked up during Obama's tenure?

Even lie about it?

8 years of barry took us from 8 trillion to 20 trillion.
And every single left wing outlet just denies it. Lies about it.
You deny it.
Lie about it.

So what's the point?

Left wing lunatics will never admit to anything.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:46 am

EAD wrote:8 years of barry took us from 8 trillion to 20 trillion.
And every single left wing outlet just denies it. Lies about it.
You deny it.
Lie about it.

Stop making stupid shit up, 'tard.

I railed on Barry's out of control spending many times.

Barry inherited a terrible economic situation and took steps that only made it a helluva lot worse.

He, like Donald, is a blackmailed little puppet man.

Drain the swamp?

LOL

Sell me on S. Mnuchin as Treasury Secretary.

GO...

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:05 am

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:56 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:50 pm So if it isn’t artificially lowered interest rates then it must be the tax cuts that are driving this good economy.
We're still riding Obummer's economy. Deep State, and all.

"Obummer's economy" was massive deficit spending and free interest.

Despite this, the economy slogged along with sluggish growth thanks to being strangled by his dumb ass.

We still have the deficit spending and low, but not as low, interest.

Part of the difficulty Trump faces is how to wean us off the artificial interest rates. Personally, I would rather he just tell everyone, sorry folks, no more free money. It would result in slightly lower growth, but not drive us back to recession.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:31 am

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:40 am 8 years of barry took us from 8 trillion to 20 trillion.

First, I thought BHO's economic policies were wack.

But in fairness -- the debts incurred during the previous 7 years of war weren't on the books, and accounting changes put them there.

ERGO (Latin), an instantaneous jump in deficit.

It's pretty well-documented.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 am

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:31 am
EAP wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:40 am 8 years of barry took us from 8 trillion to 20 trillion.
First, I thought BHO's economic policies were wack.

But in fairness -- the debts incurred during the previous 7 years of war weren't on the books, and accounting changes put them there.

ERGO (Latin), an instantaneous jump in deficit.

It's pretty well-documented.

Are you a low IQ?
You bring up the wars under Bush as a way to answer for the 12 trillion piled up during Obama's tenure?

You can't have it both ways.

What about the fuckin wars during the 8 years of Obama?
He's the commander in chief, meaning he could've put a stop to all the trillions being thrown away during his presidency.
YES, his presidency.
8 years of wars and trillions spent under Barry's watch.

Or are you too stupid to understand that?

Fuck. Are you an adult?

The same excuse over and over.
The trillions were Bush's fault because of the wars during his presidency.
Yet, as commander in chief, the trillions spent by Obama continuing his own wars for 8 years, is not his fault?

You fuckin morons.

Yes, Obama's wars are his.
He's commander in chief, and he chose to continue multiple wars,
Spending trillions more.

Stop the bullshit.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:14 am

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 am You bring up the wars under Bush as a way to answer for the 12 trillion piled up during Obama's tenure?

You can't have it both ways.

Uhm... yeah, I can.

What part of "change in accounting technique" did you not understand.

Obama's 8 years of war went under Obama's deficit. Bush's 7 years of war went under... Obama's deficit.

Are you familiar with Google? If not, you can Google "Google."

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:15 am

Dinsdale wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:14 am
EAP wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 am You bring up the wars under Bush as a way to answer for the 12 trillion piled up during Obama's tenure?

You can't have it both ways.

Uhm... yeah, I can.

What part of "change in accounting technique" did you not understand.

Obama's 8 years of war went under Obama's deficit. Bush's 7 years of war went under... Obama's deficit.

Are you familiar with Google? If not, you can Google "Google."

First.
Don't embarrass yourself by mentioning Google ever again.

Their top officials were caught on tape admiring political bias.
Should I repeat that?
Or do you not understand that either?
Their is a culture of corruption at every turn.
In other words, if the top brass at Google openly admits to political bias, then they will skew information favoring their point of view.
And you would never know it.
And being the sheep you are,
Never question it.

Second,

That piece you read from Google? It's politically biased.

Obama had multiple wars on 8 full years of his watch. Meaning,
His culpability is greater than Bush's.
Bush didn't have 8 full years of multiple wars.
But Google will not allow the numbers to go against the Obama administration in any way shape or form.

BTW, this isn't just Google, but the majority of the mainstream press and media as well.

If you don't understand that?
You're gone mentally.
You may as well commit "harry caray".

I have zero tolerance for fucks who don't understand logic.
Leftists have indeed corrupted academia, the press, the media, and yes, Google.

Again. If you deny that reality,
You need to pack it in.

Talking to any board leftists is an exercise in abject stupidity, because they live in a distorted reality and deny any corruption by the left whatsoever.

It's gotten so brazen that even when catching the CEO of CNN on audio openly admitting political bias, you leftists STILL deny it.

I have zero tolerance for this.
And anyone with half a brain should not tolerate it either.

Slap · Post by **Slap** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:22 pm

Softball Bat wrote:blackmailed

EAP likes to be black maled.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:42 pm

Slap wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:22 pm
Softball Bat wrote:blackmailed
EAP likes to be black maled.

What's your motto?
Thru rain snow sleet and hail,
The black mail plows my moist asshole? So you've no room to talk there buddy.
In fact, thousands upon thousands of black mail's have been delivered to your backdoor,
Shouldn't you consider retirement? Or put in your will to continue plowing your corpse

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:12 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm
LS wrote:Your stated positions have lost you money and kept your growth from being higher. But hey you do you.
You gain or lose when you decide to -----> cash out.

Hence the use of the word growth. But no surprise you missed that.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm You people crowing about the alleged "great economy" could not be more deluded and/or ignorant.

Economic data has been not only bad over the past number of months, but it has been HORRENDOUS.
Getting worse.

While unemployment number methodology doesn't tell the whole story, it has been the same methodology, so comparing year to year still works. Unemployment rates are near historic lows. The rates for minorities are far better than in the Obama years. Wages continue to increase. But keep spinning your doom and gloom. It fits with your market shot.

Are there issues? Sure there always are. Will the market and economy come back down, for sure, they always do.

If Pocahontas or Bernie is elected and makes good on some of their day one promises, they economy will crash quickly.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:14 pm

Eat a Penis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:15 am
I have zero tolerance for this.
And anyone with half a brain should not tolerate it either.

That is what makes the ignore feature so good. Not having to read your troll ass crap means we can skip over your shit posts.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:45 pm

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:15 amTalking to any board leftists is an exercise in abject stupidity

You sure do get in a lot of exercise. And it shows. Abjectly.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm

Derron wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:14 pm
Eat a Penis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:15 am
I have zero tolerance for this.
And anyone with half a brain should not tolerate it either.
That is what makes the ignore feature so good. Not having to read your troll ass crap means we can skip over your shit posts.

Isn't an "ignore" feature an oxymoron on a message board?
Because at the end of the day, we aren't here to score cock,
We're here to listen thoughtfully,
To our fellow man.

So by resorting to "ignore", you are showing triggered snowflake tendencies.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:40 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:27 am
I remain...

70% cash
30% market short

A total loser. Literally and undeniably. 70% cash?!? What's the interest rate again? You seem proud of your stupidity in a "Look Mommy! I make a doo doo in my pants!" sorta way.

Certifiable moron.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:30 am

mvscal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:40 am
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:27 am
I remain...

70% cash
30% market short
A total loser. Literally and undeniably. 70% cash?!? What's the interest rate again? You seem proud of your stupidity in a "Look Mommy! I make a doo doo in my pants!" sorta way.

Certifiable moron.

Well, at least his 70% isn't losing money (actually, it is after inflation).

I am no authority on "shorting" markets, but I assume that if the market doesn't drop considerably, you lose value.

So, nice going pop. ONE of these days your TVOing the market will pay.....assuming you don't become completely insolvent before that happens.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:04 am

smackaholic wrote:ONE of these days your TVOing the market will pay

True.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:56 am

Eat a Penis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm
Because at the end of the day, we aren't here to score cock,

Weird. You seem to troll for any kind of action. None of us except you ever thought this was even a remote place "to look for cock". Rack you I guess

We're here to listen thoughtfully, To our fellow man.

Nice troll bitch. Nobody has listened "thoughtfully" to anyone here for the entire 14 years or whatever the fuck this place has been around.

So by resorting to "ignore", you are showing triggered snowflake tendencies.

Another very bad troll here to. Have no idea where the fuck this came from, probably a very old smack book play of some kind. Run along now you little troll bitch.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:05 am

Derron wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 3:56 am
Eat a Penis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:51 pm
Because at the end of the day, we aren't here to score cock,
Weird. You seem to troll for any kind of action. None of us except you ever thought this was even a remote place "to look for cock". Rack you I guess

We're here to listen thoughtfully, To our fellow man.
Nice troll bitch. Nobody has listened "thoughtfully" to anyone here for the entire 14 years or whatever the fuck this place has been around.

So by resorting to "ignore", you are showing triggered snowflake tendencies.
Another very bad troll here to. Have no idea where the fuck this came from, probably a very old smack book play of some kind. Run along now you little troll bitch.

What?
Hitting the "ignore" button is a clear sign of cowardice. You get your ass handed to you, so you don't want to play anymore.
Understood.

Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:43 pm

It's a choice. It's better than the bans and deletions of other sites.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:37 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm Economic data has been not only bad over the past number of months, but it has been HORRENDOUS

Meanwhile back in the real world, wage growth continues especially for the lowest income earners.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1577442600

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:01 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:37 pm
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:48 pm Economic data has been not only bad over the past number of months, but it has been HORRENDOUS
Meanwhile back in the real world, wage growth continues especially for the lowest income earners.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1577442600

Can you even fucking read?

"Another factor supporting the lowest-paid workers is a wave of minimum-wage increases. Twenty-nine states have increased minimum wages above the federal level, and 21 of those will lift the level again in 2020. For example, the minimum wage will increase 12.5% in Washington state, to $13.50 an hour."

Liberal economic policies benefit everyone. Conservative economic policies benefit only the rich.

Film at 11.