This explains the whole Nazi schtick anyway

[EAP]

Iraqi soil

Bag daddy, bin laden, Qaddafi, etc.....they can be killed anywhere.
The world has been at war with radical Islam for quite some time now, and according to the world,
They can and will be killed with extreme prejudice.

Radical Islam has declared war on western civilization, and as a result, any radical Muslim terrorist can legally be killed.

How could you be an attorney and not know this?

[Innocent Bystander]

As for what just happened yesterday, my understanding is that the US committed a major blunder by targeting Suleimani the Iranian while he was on Iraqi soil.

Your understanding is flawed. What the fuck do you think he was doing on Iraqi soil? Enjoying a holiday?

I don't know, and I don't care. If Iraq didn't sign off on an attack on their soil -- on their sovereignty -- then Trump fucked up, the US fucked up, we fucked up.

Doing some crap like that is about as 'open borders'/'borderless world' as one can get.

Are we allowed to bomb Israel to kill the next one? Can we roll into Israel to extradite Ghislaine by force? Can we satellite beam strike Mexico?

Is Iraq now saying they were in on it the whole time? If not, the Us set a terrible precedent.

You're the military historian, though. Please explain how it's legal, and how it's good statesmanship?

[Innocent Bystander]

Iraqi soil

Exactly.

[mvscal]

Iraqi soil

Exactly.

So what? We took out bin Laden on Pakistani soil without asking their permission. This guy was more than just some inspirational figurehead. He was their single most capable operational commander. His competence and experience will be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to replace. More than that, both he and Iran believed that he was untouchable. He could do anything he wanted. Stir up shit wherever he wanted and ghost away without consequence. That was certainly the case under the previous two administrations. The day before we blew Soleimani to shit, the Supreme Ayatollah was taunting Trump:

Iran’s top ayatollah stokes Twitter war with President Trump
Supreme leader Ali Khamenei scoffs at Trump’s retaliation threat

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01 ... ald-trump/

That is a very revealing quote. Obviously, he was quite sadly mistaken on that particular point. It also reveals that they simply don't understand Trump. He is not playing by the rules laid out over the last four administrations. IMO, rather than all out war, we are going to see a pause for thought. The only thing that we can be 100% certain of is that, whatever Iran does, it will not be done nearly as well with Soleimani dead.

[EAP]

As for what just happened yesterday, my understanding is that the US committed a major blunder by targeting Suleimani the Iranian while he was on Iraqi soil.

Your understanding is flawed. What the fuck do you think he was doing on Iraqi soil? Enjoying a holiday?

I don't know, and I don't care. If Iraq didn't sign off on an attack on their soil -- on their sovereignty -- then Trump fucked up, the US fucked up, we fucked up.

Doing some crap like that is about as 'open borders'/'borderless world' as one can get.

Are we allowed to bomb Israel to kill the next one? Can we roll into Israel to extradite Ghislaine by force? Can we satellite beam strike Mexico?

Is Iraq now saying they were in on it the whole time? If not, the Us set a terrible precedent.

You're the military historian, though. Please explain how it's legal, and how it's good statesmanship?

You have NO idea what you're talking about.

Radical Islam has declared war on western civilization.
And as such, their terrorists can be taken anywhere and anytime,
With extreme prejudice.

Where have you been the last 25 years?

Through hundreds and thousands of acts of terror against humanity, radical Islamic extremists have declared war on western civilization.
As such, their leaders can be killed anywhere on planet earth.

They declared war on us.
Does your brain comprehend that?

[EAP]

Iraqi soil

Exactly.

So what? We took out bin Laden on Pakistani soil without asking their permission. This guy was more than just some inspirational figurehead. He was their single most capable operational commander. His competence and experience will be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to replace. More than that, both he and Iran believed that he was untouchable. He could do anything he wanted. Stir up shit wherever he wanted and ghost away without consequence. That was certainly the case under the previous two administrations. The day before we blew Soleimani to shit, the Supreme Ayatollah was taunting Trump:

Iran’s top ayatollah stokes Twitter war with President Trump
Supreme leader Ali Khamenei scoffs at Trump’s retaliation threat

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01 ... ald-trump/

That is a very revealing quote. Obviously, he was quite sadly mistaken on that particular point. It also reveals that they simply don't understand Trump. He is not playing by the rules laid out over the last four administrations. IMO, rather than all out war, we are going to see a pause for thought. The only thing that we can be 100% certain of is that, whatever Iran does, it will not be done nearly as well with Soleimani dead.

Hall of fame post.

The art of war. Sun Tzu.

Trump is Iran's worst nightmare.
Obama was their best friend.

These mullahs declared war on western civilization. We will terminate them with extreme prejudice.

Any leftist who has a problem with this, is treasonous.
It tells us that you don't understand that they are at war with us.

If you don't understand that, you are either stupid or delusional.

[Innocent Bystander]

You are correct. I'm observing as a civilian isolated from the true costs of the global actions of our leaders. I don't know all of the details. I only know MSM propaganda works both ways.

Radical Islam has not declared war on Western civilization. Radical Islam is a golem.

Remember when the real terrorists in El Salvador and Nicaragua were those funded by the CIA -- by America -- in the name of US national interests? Remember when Haiti's dictators were on the US payroll? Remember when Castro kicked out the US mafia and businesspeople taking advantage of Cuba's poor? Remember when bin Laden was a US asset? Remember when Patrice was assassinated by the US? Remember when Ghadaffi held North Africa in check?

Remember the USS Liberty?

The 'terrorists' are on the payroll, EAP. And the US follows orders from its Master.

I'm tired of being lied to, EAP, of being led around like the citizens of Oceania. I'm tired of wrongthink being punished out of proportion. And most especially, I'm sick of being told actions have consequences unless they are American actions.

Suleimani is a dime a dozen. Why him, why then? What now?

You have NO idea what you're talking about.

Radical Islam has declared war on western civilization.
And as such, their terrorists can be taken anywhere and anytime,
With extreme prejudice.

Where have you been the last 25 years?

Through hundreds and thousands of acts of terror against humanity, radical Islamic extremists have declared war on western civilization.
As such, their leaders can be killed anywhere on planet earth.

They declared war on us.
Does your brain comprehend that?

[Innocent Bystander]

All islam is the same and all of it should be quarantined to the middle east

What is Islam, that Jews and Christians (and whatever China and India are) should fear it?

It isn't Islam which is the problem.

[Innocent Bystander]

mvscal, really? that's hard to believe. :? there was no agreement beforehand with pakistan and its allies regarding bin laden?

What was global reaction to Obama killing Osama (and Bush trying to)? I don't remember. What made bin Laden different? globally and congressionally?

[Kierland]

Iraqi soil

Exactly.

So what? We took out bin Laden on Pakistani soil without asking their permission. This guy was more than just some inspirational figurehead. He was their single most capable operational commander. His competence and experience will be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to replace. More than that, both he and Iran believed that he was untouchable. He could do anything he wanted. Stir up shit wherever he wanted and ghost away without consequence. That was certainly the case under the previous two administrations. The day before we blew Soleimani to shit, the Supreme Ayatollah was taunting Trump:

Iran’s top ayatollah stokes Twitter war with President Trump
Supreme leader Ali Khamenei scoffs at Trump’s retaliation threat

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01 ... ald-trump/

That is a very revealing quote. Obviously, he was quite sadly mistaken on that particular point. It also reveals that they simply don't understand Trump. He is not playing by the rules laid out over the last four administrations. IMO, rather than all out war, we are going to see a pause for thought. The only thing that we can be 100% certain of is that, whatever Iran does, it will not be done nearly as well with Soleimani dead.

Trust the process
Break a few international laws along the way
Take a 15 girl across state lines to fuck her
Hate on the nogs
It’s all good

Sin,
88pedonazis

[EAP]

All islam is the same and all of it should be quarantined to the middle east

What is Islam, that Jews and Christians (and whatever China and India are) should fear it?

It isn't Islam which is the problem.

Islam by definition, means "to submit"

Do you know the meaning of "submit".

It's when slap invites you to his house for dinner. Hits you over the head with a "softball bat".
And proceeds to sodomize you for days on end, without lube.

Submit.

That's Islam.

Don't fear it.

Exterminate it.

Extinct it.

[mvscal]

Suleimani is a dime a dozen.

He certainly was not. He was the best they had. That's like saying hall of fame quarterbacks in the their prime are "a dime a dozen."

[mvscal]

What the fuck do you think he was doing on Iraqi soil? Enjoying a holiday?

I don't know, and I don't care. If Iraq didn't sign off on an attack on their soil -- on their sovereignty -- then Trump fucked up, the US fucked up, we fucked up.

Bath House Barry droned these goat rapers anywhere and everywhere and nobody gave a fuck. This is no different. The exact same legal rationale applies. They were all involved in violent aggression against the United States and US personnel. He was a military target of opportunity.

Are we allowed to bomb Israel to kill the next one? Can we roll into Israel to extradite Ghislaine by force?

We wouldn't have to, would we?

Can we satellite beam strike Mexico?

I don't think drone strikes on cartel leaders is very far fetched at this point.

Is Iraq now saying they were in on it the whole time?

Let's not pretend that Iraq speaks with one, unified voice. Most of the Iraqi Shiite leadership are Iranian stooges. Was Soleimani on his way to B-dad to deliver marching orders to his puppets? Possibly, but irrelevant.

You're the military historian, though. Please explain how it's legal, and how it's good statesmanship?

Responding to violent attacks by killing the chief architect of that violence is legal under any standard. Quds Force is a designated terrorist organization and nobody has denied that that asshole was not up to his eyes in organizing and planning terrorist operations in many different countries including Iraq. So, yes, legal.

Good statesmanship? Absolutely. How do you think we should respond to these escalating acts of violent aggression from Iran? Do nothing? Allow them to continue without consequence? I wouldn't call that statesmanship. I would call it moral cowardice. President Trump's responses have been measured and appropriate. You kill some American citizens? We will kill some of the leaders responsible for the attack. You attack our embassy, we will kill the head honcho behind all this bullshit. Iran has been put on warning. You hit us again and we will fucking maul you. Seems fair enough to me.

All Iran has to do to avoid devastating consequences is not attack us. Is that unfair? Unreasonable? That is statesmanship.

[Kierland]

Pedokkkal Is right, there is no legal difference. Your orange dumbass should be hanging by his big red tie from nearest tree just like 44.

[Kierland]

I don’t know if drone-striking Suleimani was legal or wise, but I don’t like it. And I particularly do not like the flood of war hawks racing to get air time on ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC, MSNBC etc. these days. Mankind does not need the US to spend more money developing, deploying and distributing even more dangerous weapon systems. Bad fucking idea for the whole world.

The US has few interests in the Middle East these days. We need to walk the fuck away. Yes, the residents are going to go apeshit on each other as they have for the past 3,000 years. So be it. Ain’t our fight. If one or more of them can make a compelling case why we should get involved, then maybe. But otherwise, let them sort their shit out. Or not. I don’t fucking care. And don’t give me humanitarian bullshit. We stood idle during the Clinton administration while a million Rwandans were butchered. Where was the bleeding heart then?

And we shouldn’t sell them weapons either. That shit should stop worldwide. We should build and maintain our defenses, and stand by our allies (who contribute a fair share toward their defense). We should demand fair trade and prohibit access to our markets by those who don’t trade fairly or treat their citizens fairly. But otherwise, we ought to just step aside. We are not the world’s policeman, and cannot afford to pretend to be.

Oh STFU you fake POS. This is what you voted for and you got it. WTF did you think was going to happen?

[EAP]

What the fuck do you think he was doing on Iraqi soil? Enjoying a holiday?

I don't know, and I don't care. If Iraq didn't sign off on an attack on their soil -- on their sovereignty -- then Trump fucked up, the US fucked up, we fucked up.

Bath House Barry droned these goat rapers anywhere and everywhere and nobody gave a fuck. This is no different. The exact same legal rationale applies. They were all involved in violent aggression against the United States and US personnel. He was a military target of opportunity.

Are we allowed to bomb Israel to kill the next one? Can we roll into Israel to extradite Ghislaine by force?

We wouldn't have to, would we?

Can we satellite beam strike Mexico?

I don't think drone strikes on cartel leaders is very far fetched at this point.

Is Iraq now saying they were in on it the whole time?

Let's not pretend that Iraq speaks with one, unified voice. Most of the Iraqi Shiite leadership are Iranian stooges. Was Soleimani on his way to B-dad to deliver marching orders to his puppets? Possibly, but irrelevant.

You're the military historian, though. Please explain how it's legal, and how it's good statesmanship?

Responding to violent attacks by killing the chief architect of that violence is legal under any standard. Quds Force is a designated terrorist organization and nobody has denied that that asshole was not up to his eyes in organizing and planning terrorist operations in many different countries including Iraq. So, yes, legal.

Good statesmanship? Absolutely. How do you think we should respond to these escalating acts of violent aggression from Iran? Do nothing? Allow them to continue without consequence? I wouldn't call that statesmanship. I would call it moral cowardice. President Trump's responses have been measured and appropriate. You kill some American citizens? We will kill some of the leaders responsible for the attack. You attack our embassy, we will kill the head honcho behind all this bullshit. Iran has been put on warning. You hit us again and we will fucking maul you. Seems fair enough to me.

All Iran has to do to avoid devastating consequences is not attack us. Is that unfair? Unreasonable? That is statesmanship.

Fucking HALL OF FAME POST!!

You belong right up there with the BABE, mantle, teddy williams, the ryan express,
Willie, sandy koufax, ty cobb,
Cooperstown is calling for you.

President Trump is the fucking KING!

Finally striking fear in the mullahs heart.

And, if they're stupid enough to not be scared?

We'll put a crater where their underground bunker used to be,
That'll make Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like central park in June.

BTW?

I like a Gershwin tune, how about you?

[mvscal]

good statesmanship?

Retrieved from the Memory Hole circa 2015:

Obama's Iran deal has just granted an amnesty to the world's leading terrorist mastermind
As head of the Quds Force in Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Qassem Suleimani is widely regarded as one of the world's leading terrorists. Now Barack Obama has effectively granted him an amnesty.

Qassem Suleimani, the head of the elite Quds Force in Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, fully deserves his reputation as one of the world’s leading terrorist masterminds.

For a decade a more he has been the driving force behind an array of Iranian-sponsored terrorist groups, from Hizbollah to Hamas, which have orchestrated a reign of terror throughout the Middle East.

From a purely British perspective, he was responsible for training and equipping the Shia militias in southern Iraq who killed scores of British troops during the dark days of Iraq’s sectarian conflict following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and was reported to have trained the Taliban in the art of making deadly roadside bombs that killed and mutilated our Service personnel serving in southern Afghanistan.

So you can imagine my amazement when, leafing through the more obscure annexes of President Barack Obama’s “historic” deal with Iran (page 86 of the annex, to be precise), I found that Mr Suliemani – as the White House no doubt now refers to him – has been granted an amnesty and taken off the list of proscribed Iranians – together with a number of senior members of the Revolutionary Guards.

Thanks to Mr Obama’s scandalous capitulation to Tehran, Mr Suleimani has overnight gone from being one of the world’s most wanted terrorists to the White House’s newest best friend.

This is just one of the many troubling indications contained in the detail of the accord struck in Vienna between the P5 +1 and Tehran – that’s the official line, of course. The reality is this shoddy deal was worked out between the ayatollahs and the White House, with countries like Britain – which used to take a robust view of Iran’s endless procrastinations on its nuclear activities – left impotent on the sidelines.

Another example of the craven concessions the White House had made to Tehran is the way future inspections will handled. Iran’s disinclination to make full and transparent disclosures on its nuclear programme is well-documented. Given the opportunity to cheat, they will do so. Which is why inspections by qualified teams of nuclear inspectors is so important.

Only from now on the onus will be on the West to make the case that Iran is not playing by the rules by handing over its intelligence to prove so. For under the terms of the accord, we must “justify” the need for inspections, which in effect means handing over all the intelligence we have on Iran’s illicit activities. Of course Iran has been desperate to find out how Western intelligence learned about the existence of nuclear enrichment sites like Natanz and Fordow and, if we comply with the requirements set out in the accord to the letter, this is what will happen, with all the implications that will have for all our sources who risk their lives to tell us the truth about what the regime is up to.

If I were Suleimani, I’d be organising an enormous party right now to celebrate a deal that is truly a “historic victory” for Tehran.

Iran Deal Text

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... rmind.html

So...Bath House Barry and the fatuous buffoon he employed as SecState turned this asshole loose on the world with $100 billion in palletized cash in exchange for absolutely nothing. Iran is perfectly free to continue it's nuclear "research" and the inspections are complete joke. We are only to inspect what, when and where Iran allows us to inspect. The only thing missing from the deal was John Kerry massaging the Supreme Ayatollah's prostate while he unloaded in Barry's face.

Is that your idea of "good statesmanship"? I would call it colluding with a sworn enemy of the United States.

[EAP]

good statesmanship?

Retrieved from the Memory Hole circa 2015:

Obama's Iran deal has just granted an amnesty to the world's leading terrorist mastermind
As head of the Quds Force in Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Qassem Suleimani is widely regarded as one of the world's leading terrorists. Now Barack Obama has effectively granted him an amnesty.

Qassem Suleimani, the head of the elite Quds Force in Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, fully deserves his reputation as one of the world’s leading terrorist masterminds.

For a decade a more he has been the driving force behind an array of Iranian-sponsored terrorist groups, from Hizbollah to Hamas, which have orchestrated a reign of terror throughout the Middle East.

From a purely British perspective, he was responsible for training and equipping the Shia militias in southern Iraq who killed scores of British troops during the dark days of Iraq’s sectarian conflict following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, and was reported to have trained the Taliban in the art of making deadly roadside bombs that killed and mutilated our Service personnel serving in southern Afghanistan.

So you can imagine my amazement when, leafing through the more obscure annexes of President Barack Obama’s “historic” deal with Iran (page 86 of the annex, to be precise), I found that Mr Suliemani – as the White House no doubt now refers to him – has been granted an amnesty and taken off the list of proscribed Iranians – together with a number of senior members of the Revolutionary Guards.

Thanks to Mr Obama’s scandalous capitulation to Tehran, Mr Suleimani has overnight gone from being one of the world’s most wanted terrorists to the White House’s newest best friend.

This is just one of the many troubling indications contained in the detail of the accord struck in Vienna between the P5 +1 and Tehran – that’s the official line, of course. The reality is this shoddy deal was worked out between the ayatollahs and the White House, with countries like Britain – which used to take a robust view of Iran’s endless procrastinations on its nuclear activities – left impotent on the sidelines.

Another example of the craven concessions the White House had made to Tehran is the way future inspections will handled. Iran’s disinclination to make full and transparent disclosures on its nuclear programme is well-documented. Given the opportunity to cheat, they will do so. Which is why inspections by qualified teams of nuclear inspectors is so important.

Only from now on the onus will be on the West to make the case that Iran is not playing by the rules by handing over its intelligence to prove so. For under the terms of the accord, we must “justify” the need for inspections, which in effect means handing over all the intelligence we have on Iran’s illicit activities. Of course Iran has been desperate to find out how Western intelligence learned about the existence of nuclear enrichment sites like Natanz and Fordow and, if we comply with the requirements set out in the accord to the letter, this is what will happen, with all the implications that will have for all our sources who risk their lives to tell us the truth about what the regime is up to.

If I were Suleimani, I’d be organising an enormous party right now to celebrate a deal that is truly a “historic victory” for Tehran.

Iran Deal Text

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... rmind.html

So...Bath House Barry and the fatuous buffoon he employed as SecState turned this asshole loose on the world with $100 billion in palletized cash in exchange for absolutely nothing. Iran is perfectly free to continue it's nuclear "research" and the inspections are complete joke. We are only to inspect what, when and where Iran allows us to inspect. The only thing missing from the deal was John Kerry massaging the Supreme Ayatollah's prostate while he unloaded in Barry's face.

Is that your idea of "good statesmanship"? I would call it colluding with a sworn enemy of the United States.

Valerie Jarrett and Barry Obama should fry for this.
The lens of history should shine a light on this Chicago community street pimp for giving billions to the worst terrorists on planet earth.

I'm not kidding.
This isn't schtick.
Valerie Jarrett the Iranian scumbag adviser to the Chicago community street hustler, who advised him daily on how to embolden the mullahs and fuck the state of Israel,
Should be tried for treason.
Her boss barry should be stripped of his former president status, denied the requisite library afforded to former presidents, and be required to write an essay on why the USA is better than Muslim countries.

[Kierland]

So...Bath House Barry and the fatuous buffoon he employed as SecState turned this asshole loose on the world with $100 billion in palletized cash in exchange for absolutely nothing. Iran is perfectly free to continue it's nuclear "research" and the inspections are complete joke. We are only to inspect what, when and where Iran allows us to inspect. The only thing missing from the deal was John Kerry massaging the Supreme Ayatollah's prostate while he unloaded in Barry's face.
Do you have to lie about everything? Nobody gave anyone palletized cash except when your monkey boy 43 did it you projecting pedo.
Is that your idea of "good statesmanship"? I would call it colluding with a sworn enemy of the United States.
As opposed to our closest ally Russia.

[EAP]

Pedokkkal Is right, there is no legal difference. Your orange dumbass should be hanging by his big red tie from nearest tree just like 44.

Hey dummy.

Constitutional scholars have weighed in.
The president's killing of the terrorist general was indeed 100% legal, moral and correct.

I'm gonna have to disagree with 88 for the first time in my adult life.

We have to defeat the mullahs of Iran.
Due to the advances in technology and the fact that they have weapons today that they didn't have 40 years ago?
Speaks to the urgency of which they must be seriously dealt with on every level imaginable.

It's got nothing to do with us being in that part of the world.
They've openly admitted their goal of destroying the USA, regardless of whether we are over there or not.

Given that knowledge, why would you loosen the noose on them?

Do you follow me on this?

Their ultimate goal is the complete destruction of the united states, Israel and western civilization.
So again, why cut and run?
How does that change their stated goal of our complete annihilation?

[Kierland]

Trust the process
Flood the zone
Type a bunch of shit
Kill all Muslims

Sin,
88nazis

[EAP]

Trust the process
Flood the zone
Type a bunch of shit
Kill all Muslims

Sin,
88nazis

You didn't refute a thing.
Just repeated the same drivel.

[Kierland]

Pussy

[Innocent Bystander]

:? I guess EAP and mvscal win this round. Good find, with 2015. That's.... pretty painful.

[EAP]

:? I guess EAP and mvscal win this round. Good find, with 2015. That's.... pretty painful.

The main thing is principles.

There can be no peace without great strength.
ONLY through great strength can we ever hope to bring everlasting peace.

Cowards get dominated. That's human psychology 101.

Nancy Pelosi and the left wants us to back down.
Yet they had no problem with Obama's 500 drone strikes.

Fuck those hypocrites.

[Kierland]

But Obama!!!!

[EAP]

But Obama!!!!

Look.
Don't spaz out
Daddy trump will take care of the mullahs..
Get out from under your bed and be a man for christ's sake.

[Innocent Bystander]

But Obama!!!!

In this case, yeah.

I still don't agree with what Trump gave the green light to; but no one has provided sufficient counterpoint to 2015 and the British writer's interpretation of 'page 86' as amnesty and a tacit administration approval (let's be honest of the implication) of Iran's nuclear program. I certainly don't have the background or knowledge to provide that counter.

(Governments with dictatorships or monarchies must think the American form of government schizophrenic.)