At Least 20 California Children Injured

[Left Seater]

Ok. I will lay out for a bit.

But Delta probably will face less blow back from CA for doing this over a school than had it been over the ocean.

[Derron]

Just listened to the audio on this. The school was right under the final approach path. The pilots said they did not need to dump fuel, but apparently figured out they were too heavy and had to dump fast. I guess if they could not turn out over the ocean, dump and get back on approach, they did what they had to do. Heavy with a compressor stall right after take off is not something you want to fuck around with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIA90evz8gs

[Screw_Michigan]

Just listened to the audio on this. The school was right under the final approach path. The pilots said they did not need to dump fuel, but apparently figured out they were too heavy and had to dump fast. I guess if they could not turn out over the ocean, dump and get back on approach, they did what they had to do. Heavy with a compressor stall right after take off is not something you want to fuck around with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIA90evz8gs

Lol, yes, it's just fine they dumped a bunch of fuel on a schoolyard full of kids. Nothing wrong with that! Just another bath for the balck kids.

You're supposed to dump fuel only when you're high enough where the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground. Is there anything you're not completely clueless about?

[smackaholic]

They had an engine failure and they wanted to get it back on the ground quickly.

They did. There wasn't a fireball. Everyone walked away. A few kids had a little JP-5 (or whatever number they use) sprinkled on them. This stuff is essentially diesel. It will wash off. No one will be harmed. Had it landed on a back yard barbeque, it mighta been trouble, but it wasn't.

Of course screwey points out they were balck kids, because it is what a race baiting POS does.

Give the kids a shower. Maybe Delta should buy them some new duds. That's about it.

[Kierland]

There was no actual emergency. The pilot said so, but yeah, never pass up a chance to shit kerosene on kids and give a big company a pass eh ‘holic.

[Kierland]

Fat
Yellow
Inbred
Tard

[smackaholic]

There was no actual emergency. The pilot said so, but yeah, never pass up a chance to shit kerosene on kids and give a big company a pass eh ‘holic.

So, I guess jet engines shit the bed every day. Shoulda just continued the flight to wherever,I suppose.

You lose an engine, you wanna get it safely on the ground ASAP. And while it very well may fly perfectly, it is one engine away from being a tragedy.

Now that dumbfukk has once again shown his stripes how about we hear from an actual pilot.

Lefty?




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[Screw_Michigan]

There was no actual emergency. The pilot said so, but yeah, never pass up a chance to shit kerosene on kids and give a big company a pass eh ‘holic.

Corporations are people, too.

[smackaholic]

Yeah, I know, the chilins.....

Assuming these were ghetto urchins, being spritzed by a jet is the least of their worries. I’d be more worried about catching a stray 9mm round from the local drug dealers on the way home.


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[Kierland]

There was no actual emergency. The pilot said so, but yeah, never pass up a chance to shit kerosene on kids and give a big company a pass eh ‘holic.

So, I guess jet engines shit the bed every day. Shoulda just continued the flight to wherever,I suppose.
Go fuck yourself you goal post moving tard. Nobody said either of those things.
You lose an engine, you wanna get it safely on the ground ASAP. And while it very well may fly perfectly, it is one engine away from being a tragedy.
Can you fucking read you corporation humping twat? The pilot said it wasn't critical. Did you even listen to the link?
Now that dumbfukk has once again shown his stripes how about we hear from an actual pilot.
So next time there is a legal question you will be asking for my advise?

[Kierland]

Yeah, I know, the chilins.....

Assuming these were ghetto urchins, being spritzed by a jet is the least of their worries. I’d be more worried about catching a stray 9mm round from the local drug dealers on the way home.


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I was kidding, and then added on. I’m sure the midget Benchod is getting his papers ready right now...

Fat
Yellow
Corp Dick Sucking
Tard

[Left Seater]

Lots of misinformation and outright lies both in this thread and in other places about this flight.

First off trying to claim this wasn't an emergency is wrong and stupid. The right engine experienced compressor stalls. It sounds like it started stalling and then stopped. While returning to the airport it began stalling again in a much more serious manner. For what it is worth compressor stalls are what brought down USAir 1549, the Miracle on the Hudson flight. Guess that wasn't an emergency either.

Planes do have a maximum landing weight, but they can also land over this weight at times. An overweight landing does require an airframe inspection after the fact. This however, doesn't mean that a plane can land at any weight. Some landings would just be too heavy and the landing gear could be shoved up into the fuselage. I don't know what the landing weight was for this flight, but it will come out at some point.

You're supposed to dump fuel only when you're high enough where the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground. Is there anything you're not completely clueless about?

In general, yes, you want to dump fuel over uninhabited areas at a high enough altitude AGL that the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground. However, in an emergency a pilot is pretty much given the green light to do what is necessary in the interest of safely bringing the plane back to the ground. So, if a pilot needs to reduce weight and doesn't feel there is time to sit and turn laps over an uninhabited area at 15,000 feet, then so be it.

This also isn't the first time fuel has been dumped close to the ground where it didn't have time to dissipate. American dumped fuel on residents of Flower Mound which is Northwest of DFW airport and is upper middle class for the most part. Another flight dumped fuel over Queens with the fuel landing on homes, cars, yards and people. This has zero to do with race and everything to do with safety of the plane and its passengers. Getting spritzed with a bit of jet fuel is far better than having a plane crash into your neighborhood.

That said Delta should do the correct thing here and purchase new clothes and pay for a medical examination for those who were affected. They might want to partner with the school as well and have some of their people volunteer and sponsor something there as well. Just because this was done in the name of safety, doesn't mean Delta should get a pass.

Further the pilots on this flight were most likely in contact with their technical and operations group back in Atlanta and there is a better than average chance that a Boeing rep was on the phone as well. Those folks were likely working out the landing weights and helping the pilots with minutia so they could focus on flying the plane. I would bet the call to dump fuel came from Atlanta. However, it could also be that these guys

Lots of information will come out in the next year or so. The good news is no one died and no one was seriously injured. Heck, no one event went to the hospital, included the spritzed kids.

[Kierland]

You really are a fat stupid fuck. This Plane wasn't gliding with all engines out you corporate dick sucking moron.

[Left Seater]

I did see it. They were in the air for 41 minutes.



For sure they could have made FL 10. Probably FL 15. But despite what an idiot in this thread is claiming this is an emergency where you want to be on the ground ASAP.


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[Kierland]

“We got it back under control”
“We’re not critical”

Now GFY you fat blathering tard.

[Kierland]

Blather on you Fat Yellow Tard.

[Kierland]

You fat projecting tard.

[Derron]

“We got it back under control”
“We’re not critical”

Now GFY you fat blathering tard.

How many hours in the 777 type do you have ?

[Kierland]

“We got it back under control”
“We’re not critical”

Now GFY you fat blathering tard.

How many hours in the 777 type do you have ?

WTF does that have to do with the price of Meth in Oregon?

[Kierland]

You fat projecting tard.

So I currently have you off ignore. Obviously - you're still a benchod pussy midget, and I haven't missed a thing.

Seriously, little guy - your life hasn't really turned out like you wanted it to at all, has it? :(

Maybe then you can explain how this was critical when the pilot says it wasn’t.

[Derron]

Lol, yes, it's just fine they dumped a bunch of fuel on a schoolyard full of kids. Nothing wrong with that! Just another bath for the balck kids.

Did you somehow find a demographic link from the LA Unified School District that shows those were black kids or did you just assume that was the case based upon location of the school? In inner city LA ? Profile much based upon where people live ??

You're supposed to dump fuel only when you're high enough where the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground.

The pilots choice was to attempt to land the aircraft too heavy and risk air frame compromise, passenger injuries or deaths and bend up a 20 million dollar plane or to make a last minute fuel dump and greatly reduce the chances of such injury death and damage ? or just crack up the plane and kill people because fuel might land on some people if you dumped it ?

Is there anything you're not completely clueless about?

Lots of things. First is that you are a jizz mopping piece of shit hack journalist who sucks CNN cock all day every day, has complete TDS to an obsession, who has no interests other that flapping your dick sucker incessantly about Trump the President of the United States who will handily be reelected this November.

[Derron]

WTF does that have to do with the price of Meth in Oregon?

About as much as you participating in a thread in which you know absolutely nothing about. The price of meth has more to do with how may of your California based Hispanic drug dealers got busted coming up I 5 this week.

[smackaholic]

Nice to see two of the perrenial BBOY favorites, going to the whip right out of the gate.

It's a long race boys, take it easy.

[smackaholic]

Lots of misinformation and outright lies both in this thread and in other places about this flight.

First off trying to claim this wasn't an emergency is wrong and stupid. The right engine experienced compressor stalls. It sounds like it started stalling and then stopped. While returning to the airport it began stalling again in a much more serious manner. For what it is worth compressor stalls are what brought down USAir 1549, the Miracle on the Hudson flight. Guess that wasn't an emergency either.

Planes do have a maximum landing weight, but they can also land over this weight at times. An overweight landing does require an airframe inspection after the fact. This however, doesn't mean that a plane can land at any weight. Some landings would just be too heavy and the landing gear could be shoved up into the fuselage. I don't know what the landing weight was for this flight, but it will come out at some point.

You're supposed to dump fuel only when you're high enough where the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground. Is there anything you're not completely clueless about?

In general, yes, you want to dump fuel over uninhabited areas at a high enough altitude AGL that the fuel will dissipate before it hits the ground. However, in an emergency a pilot is pretty much given the green light to do what is necessary in the interest of safely bringing the plane back to the ground. So, if a pilot needs to reduce weight and doesn't feel there is time to sit and turn laps over an uninhabited area at 15,000 feet, then so be it.

This also isn't the first time fuel has been dumped close to the ground where it didn't have time to dissipate. American dumped fuel on residents of Flower Mound which is Northwest of DFW airport and is upper middle class for the most part. Another flight dumped fuel over Queens with the fuel landing on homes, cars, yards and people. This has zero to do with race and everything to do with safety of the plane and its passengers. Getting spritzed with a bit of jet fuel is far better than having a plane crash into your neighborhood.

That said Delta should do the correct thing here and purchase new clothes and pay for a medical examination for those who were affected. They might want to partner with the school as well and have some of their people volunteer and sponsor something there as well. Just because this was done in the name of safety, doesn't mean Delta should get a pass.

Further the pilots on this flight were most likely in contact with their technical and operations group back in Atlanta and there is a better than average chance that a Boeing rep was on the phone as well. Those folks were likely working out the landing weights and helping the pilots with minutia so they could focus on flying the plane. I would bet the call to dump fuel came from Atlanta. However, it could also be that these guys

Lots of information will come out in the next year or so. The good news is no one died and no one was seriously injured. Heck, no one event went to the hospital, included the spritzed kids.

Here's another question for an actual pilot.

When you lose an engine and don't have an immediate diagnosis of the failure, would it not be prudent to assume that the other engine, the only thing keeping it from being a glider, might experience a failure as well? And given this, getting the plane on the deck as quickly as it can safely be done, is SOP?

Or does ATC just treat them like any other bird up there and tell them to get in line to land....since it isn't "critical"?

I am going to assume that yes, when any twin engine aircraft becomes a single engine, it gets head of the line privileges.

I'm sure this isn't the first time this happened. Is there any history of a heavy twin engine airliner being asked to limp up to altitude, send it out to the boonies, so it can shit fuel on Coyotes rather than poor balck kids?

I doubt it.

Maybe with a 747 or other 4 engine job, but when you just got two? No way.

[smackaholic]

Nahhhh, he doesn't know. He is that dumb.

[Left Seater]

Here's another question for an actual pilot.

When you lose an engine and don't have an immediate diagnosis of the failure, would it not be prudent to assume that the other engine, the only thing keeping it from being a glider, might experience a failure as well? And given this, getting the plane on the deck as quickly as it can safely be done, is SOP?

Exactly. Despite the pilots saying they weren't critical, at some point in the ATC tape, they don't cancel their emergency. They also don't ask for a holding pattern out in the middle on nowhere where they can figure things out. They want vectors back to a specific runway at LAX.

Or does ATC just treat them like any other bird up there and tell them to get in line to land....since it isn't "critical"?

I am going to assume that yes, when any twin engine aircraft becomes a single engine, it gets head of the line privileges.

As soon as they declare an emergency it gets them front of the line privileges. You can listen to the tape and ATC asks them what they need. ATC is working for them at this point. ATC also allows them to land on the south side of the LAX complex despite them being North of LAX as this unfolds. Further ATC kicks an EVA Air jet out of the final landing approach to allow Delta 89 to take that slot.

Bottom line, if this wasn't an actual emergency, they would have cancelled the emergency declaration.

[Kierland]

About as much as you participating in a thread in which you know absolutely nothing about.

I know what the pilot said. I know how rare this is. I know you are the size of a small chihuahua. I know the four stupidest people to ever grace these boards are/were all pilots. What else do you think I need to know?

[Kierland]

Nice to see two of the perrenial BBOY favorites, going to the whip right out of the gate.

It's a long race boys, take it easy.

You really have to be a pathetic fuck to have to use “my friends all hate you so you suck” as an argument, let alone giving it its own post.

[Kierland]

Bottom line, if this wasn't an actual emergency, they would have cancelled the emergency declaration.

What level?
Oh yeah the transcript doesn’t have it because that part starts with “... emergency.”

So what evidence DO we have?
Like I said, “not critical” so he shouldn’t have dumped.
Now that might change if the evidence from the off channel shows it went “critical” at some point.
This is pilot error at this point you fat stupid fuck.

[Kierland]

Nice to see two of the perrenial BBOY favorites, going to the whip right out of the gate.

It's a long race boys, take it easy.

You really have to be a pathetic fuck to have to use “my friends all hate you so you suck” as an argument, let alone giving it its own post.

You seriously don't understand how badly you're getting the fuck kicked out of you in this thread, do you? I knew you'd dive in on this thread, faggot. You did.

You're no lawyer.

A ton of the comments in the tiny Tweaker’s link talked about lawyers running to the scene in droves. What exactly do YOU think was the reason for that? Take your time you fat stupid yellow piece of whale felch.

[smackaholic]

Bottom line, if this wasn't an actual emergency, they would have cancelled the emergency declaration.

What level?
Oh yeah the transcript doesn’t have it because that part starts with “... emergency.”

So what evidence DO we have?
Like I said, “not critical” so he shouldn’t have dumped.
Now that might change if the evidence from the off channel shows it went “critical” at some point.
This is pilot error at this point you fat stupid fuck.

How many hours do you have flying ANYFUKKINGTHING?

Have you ever even flow a kite?

Lefty drives fairly large twin engine jets. I am sure he could figure out a 777 if he had to.

Please just STFU and stay down. You've opened a few lengths lead on screwey. Time to throttle back a bit. You got 50+ weeks to go.

[smackaholic]

You really have to be a pathetic fuck to have to use “my friends all hate you so you suck” as an argument, let alone giving it its own post.

You seriously don't understand how badly you're getting the fuck kicked out of you in this thread, do you? I knew you'd dive in on this thread, faggot. You did.

You're no lawyer.

A ton of the comments in the tiny Tweaker’s link talked about lawyers running to the scene in droves. What exactly do YOU think was the reason for that? Take your time you fat stupid yellow piece of whale felch.

Of course those fukking cockroaches ran to the scene. It's what they do.

[Left Seater]

^^^^^^^^^^

That will rack.

Lefty actually has 9 hours in a 777-300ER simulator. Hardly enough time to even learn where all the important things are but at the end of the day it is still stick and rudder.

[Kierland]

Bottom line, if this wasn't an actual emergency, they would have cancelled the emergency declaration.

What level?
Oh yeah the transcript doesn’t have it because that part starts with “... emergency.”

So what evidence DO we have?
Like I said, “not critical” so he shouldn’t have dumped.
Now that might change if the evidence from the off channel shows it went “critical” at some point.
This is pilot error at this point you fat stupid fuck.

How many hours do you have flying ANYFUKKINGTHING?

Have you ever even flow a kite?

Lefty drives fairly large twin engine jets. I am sure he could figure out a 777 if he had to.

Please just STFU and stay down. You've opened a few lengths lead on screwey. Time to throttle back a bit. You got 50+ weeks to go.

So don’t question him. Just move along. You would make a great sheep.

[smackaholic]

You'd be the fukking sheep which the sheep dog eventually kills himself and leaves you for the coyotes.

[Derron]

You really are a fat stupid fuck. This Plane wasn't gliding with all engines out you corporate dick sucking moron.

Look here Soy Boy, as long as you bring up the dick sucking moron tag , which you are BTW, no where in Leftys posts was anything said about both engines out on the subject flight. His analogy was to Cactus 1549 losing both engines due to compressor stall caused by FOD. Your reading comprehension skills are about as good as your smack ability, as clearly evidenced ( that's lawyer talk mother fucker) by your repeat as Board Bitch.
,

[Kierland]

Cum-glazed, tiny, polyp-fucking cunt-mouths like you only see $ in shit like this. But the children!!!!!!!!

You don't practice law. You're angry, because you know you're getting exposed in this thread. Your tiny shit is on everybody's shoes right now, because everybody's feet are in your itty-bitty ass.

Jump, Benchod!

None of that explains why he dumped fuel when it wasn’t critical.
——
It’s always about them
Never discuss the facts
Just vomit on your keyboard
Trust the process

Sin,
88fatties

[Kierland]

You'd be the fukking sheep which the sheep dog eventually kills himself and leaves you for the coyotes.

Huh?
Dude get a grip.

[Kierland]

Benchod - You're not grasping this.

You have a plane that suddenly LOSES one of its two engines. The object of the fucking GAME at this point, is to get the fucking PLANE back down as QUICKLY as FUCKING POSSIBLE. Okay? Yes - the plane can get by on ONE engine, but a fully FUELED plane on one engine is NOT the best way to go. You DUMP the fucking fuel. You DUMP the fuel as FAST as you can. You go BACK to the FUCKING EAST because winds are prevailing from the WEST. THEREFORE, you have to land going INTO the wind. ANYTHING to cut the GROUNDSPEED down. You know how the wind comes OFF of the fucking PACIFIC, right?

So it's NOT anybody's FAULT that the ILLEGALS you LOVE happen to be living in the SHITHOLE next to the AIRPORT. COMPRENDE?

God DAMN! Are you REALLY this fucking STUPID?

You can vomit up capitals all you want but again, the pilot never said word one about that. He was under control and not critical. There was no need to dump the fuel over LA, at least according to BrokenPsyche who wants the airline to buy the kids T-shirts and have an apology tour to make up for it.
At least you attempted to address the actual facts this time, even if you are just saying the same stupid shit over and over and not addressing what actually happened.

[smackaholic]

Yup, the pilot had it under control, because, well, if they give you the keys of a triple 7, it is assumed you know your shit.

This does not change the fact that dude wanted that fukking plane on the ground, 10 minutes ago. It was his sole objective. Put it down...safely.

And part of that equation is get it to a weight where it won't stall at the last second and it won't collapse the gear on impact.

He achieved his objective.

He landed safely. Everyone walked off the plane at the gate, not out on the runway via the inflatable shute dealio. BTW, people get fukked up using those things, sometimes.

One broken arm from sliding down a shute would have been worse than a bunch of kids being sprinkled on.

You ever turn a wrench on a vehicle? When you do, guess what? You get petroleum products on your skin.

And guess what else?

You don't die. Unlike a plane crash.

A little soap and water and you're as good as new.