When and how do sports return?

[Left Seater]

A sure sign of a troll. Just make up shit and attack that.

Maybe you can give soccer fans and players wristbands to keep them away from your home and TV.

At least get it correct if you are going to keep running this narrative.

[Left Seater]

You do give off let them eat cake vibes, sometimes ...

If asking able bodied people to work instead of living on public assistance for years gives off those vibes, then I will own that. I strongly disagree with the socialist liberals who want to see the government paying people who are unwilling to work.

[Softball Bat]

(CNN) There will be no preseason games for the National Football League this year, according to an open letter
published Monday by Commissioner Roger Goodell.

The mandate comes as every aspect of sporting world has been affected by coronavirus. Earlier this year, the NFL
had to hold its draft virtually to avoid the spread of the virus. The season is set to begin in September...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/27/us/n ... index.html






Good luck.

[Softball Bat]

(CNN) A number of players and coaches on the Miami Marlins tested positive for Covid-19, pushing Major League
Baseball to postpone three games and raising questions about its plans to hold a season amid a pandemic.

The Marlins' home opener against the Baltimore Orioles and the New York Yankees game at the Philadelphia
Phillies, both scheduled for Monday night, have been postponed, MLB said. Commissioner Rob Manfred didn't
discuss canceling the season...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/27/us/m ... index.html




Didn't discuss canceling the season?

lol



He soon will.






#reality

[Left Seater]

Remember when you said there would be no major sports at all this year?

Yeah, so do we. Another prediction fail by you.

[Softball Bat]

5/9/2020

MLB is trying to cobble together a paln for some sort of salvaged season.
The NFL released its schedule and has hopes it will play.

Nope.

Oh, they might try.
All it's going to take is one dude getting the Big C to force the whole operation to shut down.

[Left Seater]

Lots more than one have it in both mlb and nba and those aren’t shut down.

Golf has been going for almost 2 months.

[Kierland]

Remember when you said there would be no major sports at all this year?

Yeah, so do we. Another prediction fail by you.

And you said:

I pretty much heard, live your life and don’t focus on this. Pretty much how I lived my life before this. As happened to my dad, you never know when your number is goi g to be called.

So just STFU about who was right and wrong and learn to spell if you are going to wear people’s typos in your sig for years you fat POS. Darwin is going to have a field day with you and your idiot wife.

[Kierland]

Lots more than one have it in both mlb and nba and those aren’t shut down.

Golf has been going for almost 2 months.

And what was your prediction fatso?

[Softball Bat]

He said...


5/9

Sports will be back and sooner than Softhead thanks.

As soon as one league gets goin\g the others will follow in short order.

6/20

It is beyond time for sports to return. Will some people catch the Rona flu? Of course. They immediately get quarantined and you move on.

Lefty belongs in the Rump administration. :)

[Kierland]

Baghdad BrokenSeater

[Bill in Houston]

He said...


5/9

Sports will be back and sooner than Softhead thanks.

As soon as one league gets goin\g the others will follow in short order.

6/20

It is beyond time for sports to return. Will some people catch the Rona flu? Of course. They immediately get quarantined and you move on.

Lefty belongs in the Rump administration. :)

It’s really more of a rotation than a permanent lineup.

[Innocent Bystander]

Baghdad BrokenSeater

MLB tried. People actually paid good money to be a cardboard cut-out. Who are those people, and why would they spend good money to be a creepy virtual placeholder?

Got crowd noises piped in for tv and radio broadcasts, what the fuck is this deep fake consumer version shit? It isn't honest.

MLB got smote with covid19. MLB shrugged it off.

What now?

[Derron]

Yes, that's what makes it great. Of course, poor people playing it is why you hate it.

Stereotype much you racist fuck ??

[Left Seater]

Thanks for pointing out how I was correct on those predictions.

Hockey is playing exhibition games today.

NFL is returning to training camp as we speak.

Three of the four major sports leagues will have games this Saturday.

[Kierland]

Yes, that's what makes it great. Of course, poor people playing it is why you hate it.

Stereotype much you racist fuck ??

You are so dumb. So tiny and so dumb. Nobody say anything about race you tweaking twat.

[Screw_Michigan]

Stereotype much you racist fuck ??

It's not racism you ignorant a55wipe.

[Softball Bat]

Got crowd noises piped in for tv and radio broadcasts, what the fuck is this deep fake consumer version shit? It isn't honest.

It is ridiculous.

[Left Seater]

Got crowd noises piped in for tv and radio broadcasts, what the fuck is this deep fake consumer version shit? It isn't honest.

It is ridiculous.

This.

[Derron]

Stereotype much you racist fuck ??

It's not racism you ignorant a55wipe.

Stereo typing based on social economic circumstances is racist. You are just substituting social economic standing for skin color. But as per the usual any kind of labeling by the left is not racist. If you could stop sucking Kierlands cock long enough you might understand that.

[Kierland]

You were the one exchanging race for economics. He just said poor people you tiny tweaking twat.

[Kierland]

If you could stop sucking Kierlands cock long enough you might understand that.

Says the guy who constantly posts about how all his friends think some other poster is a boardbitch. You really are stupid as fuck. When a bunch of my friends were like Hillary is going to win, I was like there are some pretty wacked racists out there so don’t be too sure, I was speaking of idiots like you.

[Kierland]

You can keep lying but AA is because people CAN do better if given a chance you yellow racist tard.

[Kierland]

Stereotyping and profiling are not racist, they may be done along racial lines but that does not make them racist.

It’s the manifestation of racism. I know you play checkers and not chess because you are dumb but geez.

[Bill in Houston]

Stereotyping and profiling are not racist, they may be done along racial lines but that does not make them racist.

It’s the manifestation of racism. I know you play checkers and not chess because you are dumb but geez.

But, but words and stuff...

[Innocent Bystander]

It's complicated, Schmick.

[Left Seater]

Sure it’s complicated.

It is made worse by “programs” that were designed to help.

We can all agree that there are and were racists. That will continue forever. (It also is true for all races.) However, now that that has been pointed out and agreed to, when do those using that to justify reverse racism, begin to expect more? Will this reverse racism continue for another decade? Two decades? Another century? When do those effected say enough? Yes shit happened and continues to happen, but we need to take advantage of the programs and change things for future generations?

And let’s say the US decided to pay reparations to every balck person in the US. Let’s also say the figure is $50k per person. Does that lead to reverse racism programs being sunset? If not, why not?

Further, when will we start looking at this as a socioeconomic issue and not a race issue? Why are we ignoring other races that are in the same boat?

Hell yes it’s complicated, but continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results is idiotic.

[Bill in Houston]

Sure it’s complicated.

It is made worse by “programs” that were designed to help.

We can all agree that there are and were racists. That will continue forever. (It also is true for all races.) However, now that that has been pointed out and agreed to, when do those using that to justify reverse racism, begin to expect more? Will this reverse racism continue for another decade? Two decades? Another century? When do those effected say enough? Yes shit happened and continues to happen, but we need to take advantage of the programs and change things for future generations?

Well, aren't you the Sporty Muthah Fuckah?! Let's put a time clock on justice?

How about we make shit right and don't worry about how long it take OR WHAT IT COSTS YOU!

And let’s say the US decided to pay reparations to every balck person in the US. Let’s also say the figure is $50k per person.

That's your inflation adjusted "40 acres and a mule"????

Does that lead to reverse racism programs being sunset? If not, why not?

Further, when will we start looking at this as a socioeconomic issue and not a race issue?

What problem do you have with righting the past wrongs? Time clock? Cost you too much?

Tell me Lefty,what is the cost of justice to you? In your mind?

Why are we ignoring other races that are in the same boat?

Hell yes it’s complicated, but continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results is idiotic.

Who's ignoring who?
I applaud you if you're willing to stand up for every individual who has been enslaved/systemically oppressed.
So let's engage and stop denying what is wrong in our society.

Given you history of posting here, I'm skeptical. Go ahead, make me a believer brothah.

[Kierland]

Why are we ignoring other races that are in the same boat?

You can try and change history or ignore it or whatever, you can ask a lot of questions, but in the end only a racist trying to cover tracks or a crazy person would even think that, let alone type it.

[Bill in Houston]

I will support reparations for anyone who was a slave. Hell I will even go as far as giving reparations to the descendants of each slave freed after the Civil War but it will be a set amount for each slave that was on the books when slavery ended. Say its 75k and the descendants of that slave will split the 75k
However, since it was the democrats that owned the slaves and fought to keep the slaves, the reparations must come.from the DNC and taxes on registered democrats. Republicans fought and died to free the slaves, they've done their part, they owe no more.

Why $75k?

Where do you get that number, you disingenuous fucking cunt?

Then you blow up any and all credibility you could ever hope for.

You truly are a complete and total POS.

GFY

[Left Seater]

Look Bill, the number is pretty meaningless. $100K, $250K, $500k? Regardless of the number it isn’t going to make generational change without changes in the minority community.

I can show you plenty of people that came from nothing and suddenly have millions. Instead of being set for life they are bankrupt in a few years. Just giving people a check without other help is setting them up to fail. A better approach would be an annuity, but then some would call that racist.

As for you getting all worked up and ready to fight settle down. I asked questions. If you have opinions share them. I don’t pretend to have all the answers. However, I do know that until the minority communities start taking some responsibility on themselves for their lot in life, nothing will change.

Further, if we had these discussions based on socioeconomic basis instead of race it takes all the ammo away from the actual racists.

[Kierland]

But it gives cover to the undercover racist and it just never works. Sorry dude this has to be handled head on. It’s actually a super easy fix once the racists (and kleptos of course) are gone.

[Softball Bat]

I do know that until the minority communities start taking some responsibility on themselves for their lot in life, nothing will change.

Get your own Snickers bar, son.

:)

[Softball Bat]

Regarding racism in America...


Because I have lived out of the country extensively, I've seen some things.

In S. Korea there is pretty blatant racism against Chinese, blacks, Filipinos, and others.
And caucasians are generally welcomed more freely.
Yet even so, if a caucasian seeks to move up into higher positions in Korean society, he will face strong push-back.
If you are black or Chinese you can forget about it.

I'm not sure the racism in America is much worse (or worse at all) than in many other countries around the world.

I'm also not sure that the social programs designed to aid blacks in America have been real helpful to their cause.
In a sense the programs have "trapped" them into a place of "comfortable" discomfort.


Unfortunately racism is an issue that will most likely never be resolved to the satisfaction of everyone.

[Bill in Houston]

Look Bill, the number is pretty meaningless.

I couldn't disagree more. It needs to be sufficient to eliminate the wealth gap. Anything less would perpetuate the issue at hand and not achieve real societal change.

Regardless of the number it isn’t going to make generational change without changes in the minority community.

I'm curious to know what veiled racist idea you have here.

I can show you plenty of people that came from nothing and suddenly have millions. Instead of being set for life they are bankrupt in a few years. Just giving people a check without other help is setting them up to fail. A better approach would be an annuity, but then some would call that racist.

Here we go, the ol' "money can't fix it, so let's not try that" BS. I will agree that help shouldn't just be in the form of personal payments. Investments into education, entrepreneurial activity, and stricter enforcement of civil rights laws are needed too. But mostly, personal payments.

However, I do know that until the minority communities start taking some responsibility on themselves for their lot in life, nothing will change.

And there we have it, the unveiling of your racist thoughts. I knew you wouldn't keep it all held inside, ya big lunk.
"it's the blacks fault" "they don't want to improve" "it'd be a waste of money because they aren't responsible enough to handle it"
All pure racist bs. Nothing new.

Further, if we had these discussions based on socioeconomic basis instead of race it takes all the ammo away from the actual racists.

We know how you oppose being disarmed.

It's a pleasant thought though, isn't it? If we could erase history and pretend it didn't happen. If we only talked about poor people and not the fundamental issues of poverty. Let's not make it about color. Let's sanitize all the icky stuff that we don't like, then everyone will be happy!

[Left Seater]

I couldn't disagree more. It needs to be sufficient to eliminate the wealth gap. Anything less would perpetuate the issue at hand and not achieve real societal change.

The wealth gap crosses all races. It isn't limited to minorities. There are plenty of poor whites. Do they need some sort of reparations payment to eliminate the wealth gap? Further, there are plenty of examples of people suddenly getting millions, lottery, sports contracts, gambling. That alone hasn't always led to setting the next generation up for success. Just handing people money alone isn't the answer regardless of race. But please tell us how much each balck person should get to "eliminate" the wealth gap.

I'm curious to know what veiled racist idea you have here.

It isn't racist. It is socioeconomic. Birth rates for women decrease as income rises across all races. Take a 17 year old kid who has come from nothing. Now hand him a $5million check. Unless he changes his behavior, he is likely to father multiple kids with different women. Then the women end up with large portions of his $5million and there are kids with absentee fathers. Is that leading to change? Again this isn't only a balck issue, it is socioeconomic.

Here we go, the ol' "money can't fix it, so let's not try that" BS. I will agree that help shouldn't just be in the form of personal payments. Investments into education, entrepreneurial activity, and stricter enforcement of civil rights laws are needed too. But mostly, personal payments.

What more investments in education do you want? How much more money do we need to throw at it? We have been increasing spending for education for decades and nothing has changed. Spending on education isn't the issue. And Entrepreneurial Activity? Ok, sure, we can support that more than we already do. Up quotas, set up dedicated funding, add more scholarships in this area. And yes, we should enforce the laws already on the books.

So again, how much money do you think is appropriate? And if that amount was agreed to, when would these reverse racism programs end?

And there we have it, the unveiling of your racist thoughts. I knew you wouldn't keep it all held inside, ya big lunk.
"it's the blacks fault" "they don't want to improve" "it'd be a waste of money because they aren't responsible enough to handle it"
All pure racist bs. Nothing new.

Wrong as usual. I keep talking about socioeconomic, you keep bringing up race. I don't think handing a large check to a poor white woman fixes her lot in life either. Same for a hispanic person, pacific islander, etc. Race isn't the big issue, socioeconomic is. But you will keep comprehending what you want and building and attacking straw men.

As long as you are willing to point to issues outside of the individual, there isn't any incentive to change. If it isn't the person's fault, there is no hope to fix their position. At some point people have to accept some sort of personal responsibility. If we gave you all of your suggestions, Millions to each balck person in a check, doubled the education budget, increased Entrepreneurial Activity and enforced laws to a very strict level, when would reverse racism programs end? When would personal responsibility begin to kick in? 10 years, 50 years, a century?

[Kierland]

Saying it’s socioeconomic is racist you stupid tard.
As long as you say it’s on the individual (which could be an argument starting in the 1860’s and hasn’t worked for blacks [or Appalachia for that matter] in that time so why should it work now) you sound either way out of touch or racist and I have met you so I’m going with racist.

[Bill in Houston]

OOOOKAY. Imma hafta slow things way down here. My bad really, I'm accustomed to communicating with people that have an IQ over 70. I'll try my best to work with you Lefty. Read slowly if that helps you.

The wealth gap crosses all races. It isn't limited to minorities. There are plenty of poor whites. Do they need some sort of reparations payment to eliminate the wealth gap?

Slow down Lefty, what are we talking about here? Making things right? Justice?
Yes poverty exists and yes it knows no racial barriers. I'm glad your concerned, though you really only fake that to try to support a political agenda. Shame on you.
ANYWHO, justice, yes, the disproportionality (hmmm, might need a smaller word here for you, but maybe you can ask for help?) of black poverty.
And why is this, Lefty? Let's go back and review the history that you and fellow racists want to ignore. Prior to the mid 1800s there was legalized enslavement in this country. OK, now I'm gonna make a big leap of faith here and assume you are not down with that idea? Hmmmm? We on the same page???
Then we fought a war in this country to abolish slavery. And he we are! We all won! Well, not so fast, what really happened? When black people were emancipated do you think they went straight out and found a job and asked fair compensation???? I'll help you here, Lefty. The answer is NO. Even after emancipation there were Black Codes https://www.history.com/topics/black-hi ... lack-codes. So when a person is enslaved, what do you think happens to their wealth? That's right, they don't have any, it's forfeited to the enslaver. Now what do you think happened to emancipated blacks who tried to live under Black Codes? Yes, good, they remain impoverished. Unjustly due to systemic racism.

Now, we move forward to the Jim Crow era. I'll let you do your own research there, Lefty. Ask for help if you need it. There are plenty of resources available. I'll cut to it for you. There continued a system of legalized segregation and discrimination that prevented African Americans from fully participating in the development of personal wealth. Did you read that? They were denied opportunities. What do you think the cost that was? Unjustly due to systemic racism. This continued until the mid-1960's. And since then? Restrictive covenants on homeownership, redlining, predatory lending practices for home loans. Limiting the ability to participate in the wealth creation in the rest of society. Unjustly due to systemic racism.

Do you know what happens when people are limited and restricted to where they can live? Yep, it limits there ability to build wealth. It limits their opportunities to get a good education, it perpetuates poverty and restricts equal opportunity. They remain impoverished.

Further, there are plenty of examples of people suddenly getting millions, lottery, sports contracts, gambling. That alone hasn't always led to setting the next generation up for success. Just handing people money alone isn't the answer regardless of race. But please tell us how much each balck person should get to "eliminate" the wealth gap.

What are we talking about? Justice? The elimination of the wealth gap should come from the payment of reparations. Are we gonna MAKE everyone build their wealth or protect it? NO. We're going to establish a level of justice that should have been created generations ago, after abolition.

It isn't racist. It is socioeconomic.

Yes, it is racist.

Birth rates for women decrease as income rises across all races. Take a 17 year old kid who has come from nothing. Now hand him a $5million check. Unless he changes his behavior, he is likely to father multiple kids with different women. Then the women end up with large portions of his $5million and there are kids with absentee fathers. Is that leading to change? Again this isn't only a balck issue, it is socioeconomic.

You are wrong, and you create a false argument to support it. How often does your hypothetical happen? Even if it happened a hundred times more frequently than it does now it still doesn't create justice. I'm talking about making right from what was previously wrong.

The wealth gap crosses all races. It isn't limited to minorities. There are plenty of poor whites. Do they need some sort of reparations payment to eliminate the wealth gap?

You're right, there are poor white people. What was the primary cause of their poverty? Did they endure what blacks have? Do they share the same history of being denied the ability to gain wealth for generations? Unjustly due to systemic racism.

What more investments in education do you want? How much more money do we need to throw at it? We have been increasing spending for education for decades and nothing has changed.

How about we make if fair? How about justice? How much has educational spending increased for black children in this country over the past 200 years? Now how much has educational spending increased for white children, in white neighborhoods, in overwhelmingly white schools? You do know that public schools were only desegregated in the 60s? Did that completely level the field for education opportunities? Was justice fully restored when the Little Rock kids got spat upon?

What more investments in education do you want? How much more money do we need to throw at it?

I realize that justice won't come cheap. Should we not pursue justice? Is your money more important to you, even if it's not obtained fairly?

And if that amount was agreed to, when would these reverse racism programs end?

If everything is made right, justice is restored, there would be no need for such programs.

Wrong as usual. I keep talking about socioeconomic, you keep bringing up race. I don't think handing a large check to a poor white woman fixes her lot in life either. Same for a hispanic person, pacific islander, etc. Race isn't the big issue, socioeconomic is. But you will keep comprehending what you want and building and attacking straw men.

You make a strong case for the pacific islander. They may be due reparations as well.
But that's not the history I'm talking about. Of course the poor white woman doesn't deserve a check. She doesn't share the same history of systemic racism. This is the history you keep trying to deny. This denial of yours is one fact that makes you a racist.

As long as you are willing to point to issues outside of the individual, there isn't any incentive to change. If it isn't the person's fault, there is no hope to fix their position. At some point people have to accept some sort of personal responsibility.

How is it the fault of a black person that they suffered the history that has been described? You are certainly a racist POS.

If we gave you all of your suggestions, Millions to each balck person in a check, doubled the education budget, increased Entrepreneurial Activity and enforced laws to a very strict level, when would reverse racism programs end? When would personal responsibility begin to kick in? 10 years, 50 years, a century?

Personal responsibility has always applied. It's the starting point which has been unfair. Blacks have had to be personally responsible. To suggest otherwise is to be racist. If justice were to be restored there would be no need for any race-based legislative manipulations.

[Left Seater]

Got it. You refuse to answer questions and are completely focused on an agenda.

In your refusal you resort to name calling. The ultimate signal that you have no argument.

Plus your outright dismissal of women’s struggles is telling. It isn’t about justice or making things right, it is simply a cash grab. Don’t forget balcks could vote before women could. They still face all sorts of issues. Replace the word racism with sexism.

You should take Jessie Jackson’s spot when he steps down. You want to keep balcks poor and in constant need of support.

So sad.

[Kierland]

And there you go Bill, you tried to reason with him but it just won’t work. His thinker is broken. He is obsessed with money ever since his dad died and nothing is going to change that. Not even if his wife got cv and died. It’s a pathology just like reasoning with Dump.