"Decriminalization"

[smackaholic]

Those enlightened folks out there in the U&L have fixed their drug problem, by basically telling their junkies "No worries, dude. We know it ain't your fault. Go ahead and stick that needle in your arm. So long as you have just a few needles, it's all good."

Yeah, that ought to take care of it. The rest of us will just have to put up with these otherwise, fine upstanding members of their communities.

It will still be illegal, of course. The black market will still exist. Junkies will still wonder if what they are about to shoot up is good stuff or something that will kill them.

But, it would be mean to lock them away, so fukk it.

There are two logical ways to deal with substance abuse. Either you stomp it the fukk out, or you legalize it.

"Decriminalization" fixes nothing. It tells that junkie, don't worry about it dude. It tells prospective junkies that there are no consequences if they do decide to give it a try. This does one thing. It increases business for dealers. Period.

Since we don't have the stones to go medieval on the drug trade, we should legitimize it fully. We should have learned this lesson a century ago when we tried it with alcohol.

But that won't happen for a number of reasons.

The nanny state wants control. It wants to show how it cares about people. Drug are bad!!!! We can't make them legal.

Lots of people derive a pretty damn good living from the industrial "war on drugs" complex. Without it, many judges, lawyers, cops, prison guards would have to find honest, productive work.

[Kierland]

You remain an idiot. No “free” country goes medieval on people for smoking pot or snorting a line. Fuck you and your malignant orange pea brain.

[Innocent Bystander]

You remain an idiot. No “free” country goes medieval on people for smoking pot or snorting a line. Fuck you and your malignant orange pea brain.

The US is slave country at heart, not free. Drug laws, like gun laws and felony definitions, were intended to punish blacks and Mexicans.

Decriminalization is to help white people. Cascadia knows what it is doing.

[smackaholic]

You remain an idiot. No “free” country goes medieval on people for smoking pot or snorting a line. Fuck you and your malignant orange pea brain.

Once again, you fail at reading comprehension.

I said there are 2 ways to deal with it.

You either crush it or you let it exist legally.

Of course either of those solutions isn’t good for your business you fukking parasite.

You are as much a part of the the industrial drug war complex as the beat cop or the CO at the local state pen.

Seeing as going medieval isn’t going to happen and IMO shouldn’t happen because, as I’ve said a million times before. Government authority should always be kept to a bare minimum, because it will ALWAYS be abused.

You and I both know this. The difference is you are selective in your disdain for it.


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[smackaholic]

You remain an idiot. No “free” country goes medieval on people for smoking pot or snorting a line. Fuck you and your malignant orange pea brain.

Once again, you fail at reading comprehension.

I said there are 2 ways to deal with it.

You either crush it or you let it exist legally.

Of course either of those solutions isn’t good for your business you fukking parasite.

You are as much a part of the the industrial drug war complex as the beat cop or the CO at the local state pen.

Seeing as going medieval isn’t going to happen and IMO shouldn’t happen because, as I’ve said a million times before. Government authority should always be kept to a bare minimum, because it will ALWAYS be abused.

You and I both know this. The difference is you are selective in your disdain for it.


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[Kierland]

I read it and there is only one sane way to deal with drugs. You are a nazi POS which is why you think there are two. One of which you said we were not doing because we have no balls.

[smackaholic]

Sorry I glass-dicked you, 'holic.

Legalize all drugs. The weak will die. The majority of them are low-quality folks.

Yeah, but they’re good customers to the midget.


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[smackaholic]

I read it and there is only one sane way to deal with drugs. You are a nazi POS which is why you think there are two. One of which you said we were not doing because we have no balls.

I did not say there were 2 sane ways. I said logical.

I also said that one of these is a bad idea because unlike you, I think government ought to be kept on a tight leash in ALL respects.

Anyhoo, you say there is only one sane way, but of course you don’t tell us what it is.

How about enlightening us.

Are you for 100% legalization?


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[Kierland]

It’s like talking to a toddler. Yes the sane way is to treat people humanly.

[Bill in Houston]

I read it and there is only one sane way to deal with drugs. You are a nazi POS which is why you think there are two. One of which you said we were not doing because we have no balls.

I did not say there were 2 sane ways. I said logical.

I also said that one of these is a bad idea because unlike you, I think government ought to be kept on a tight leash in ALL respects.

Anyhoo, you say there is only one sane way, but of course you don’t tell us what it is.

How about enlightening us.

Are you for 100% legalization?


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So what is your problem with self autonomy? if someone kills themselves, do you have a problem with it?

What level of goverenmental control on one's personal life are you OK with?

Or are you really trying to suggest that society has to deal with other results of drug use, which are the issues you're concerned with?

Explain yourself, you mumbling idiot.

[mvscal]

Those enlightened folks out there in the U&L have fixed their drug problem, by basically telling their junkies "No worries, dude. We know it ain't your fault. Go ahead and stick that needle in your arm. So long as you have just a few needles, it's all good."

How are meth tweakers any different from alcoholics? Why should one form of self-annihilation be legal and another criminal? Why do we treat one as a disease and the other as a crime?

I'll take your answer off the air.

[smackaholic]

Good question, mvscal.

I think tweakers should be free to tweak. They also deserve to be able to purchase the highest grade of meth possible.

If you or I go to the local liquor store for a Single Malt or a 6 pack of IPAs, we know what we are buying. We know exactly what the alcohol content is.

A tweaker does not get that.

[smackaholic]

I read it and there is only one sane way to deal with drugs. You are a nazi POS which is why you think there are two. One of which you said we were not doing because we have no balls.

I did not say there were 2 sane ways. I said logical.

I also said that one of these is a bad idea because unlike you, I think government ought to be kept on a tight leash in ALL respects.

Anyhoo, you say there is only one sane way, but of course you don’t tell us what it is.

How about enlightening us.

Are you for 100% legalization?


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So what is your problem with self autonomy? if someone kills themselves, do you have a problem with it?

What level of goverenmental control on one's personal life are you OK with?

Or are you really trying to suggest that society has to deal with other results of drug use, which are the issues you're concerned with?

Explain yourself, you mumbling idiot.

I am all for self autonomy for adults. So long as they are not harming others directly.

You want to drink, snort, shoot, smoke whatever? It is your business. You deserve the highest quality possible regarding the drug of your choice. In a legitimate market, you could have that. In the balck market, you get what you get.

I am full on Libertarian on this topic.

I would extend this to prostitution or pretty much everything else.

Adults should be free to be as stupid as they want.

[Kierland]

You are living proof of that.

[Screw_Michigan]

Legalizing hard drugs is making sure another Brionna Taylor is not murdered by police in Oregon. Those pigs don't no knock warrant entry her home (for drugs they didn't have evidence were there) and blow her away without approval from judges to perform Drug Warrioring. Then the reduced career destroying because you can't get convicted of felonies for a couple hits of LSD or mushrooms. It's a win-win for society. The only people who lose are police and prosecutors and court system bean counters.

[smackaholic]

Legalizing hard drugs is making sure another Brionna Taylor is not murdered by police in Oregon. Those pigs don't no knock warrant entry her home (for drugs they didn't have evidence were there) and blow her away without approval from judges to perform Drug Warrioring. Then the reduced career destroying because you can't get convicted of felonies for a couple hits of LSD or mushrooms. It's a win-win for society. The only people who lose are police and prosecutors and court system bean counters.

Uhhhh, Rack Screwy!!

Fuckin’ hate it when I have to do that, but broken clocks and what such.

Don’t get used to it, asshat.

What are your thoughts on decriminalization?


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[Kierland]

Cops love the Drug War because it’s easy. It’s not finding a needle in a haystack like tracking down a murder, cause there are needles everywhere, so they love it. They also like the corruption it affords thru civil forfeiture. Porky is an idiot.

[Screw_Michigan]

What are your thoughts on decriminalization?

In short, I think decriminalization is an imperfect but logical compromise between traditional drug criminalization and full legalization. Probably wouldn't need decrim if the feds would move marijuana and hallucinogens off Schedule 1. Decrim has issues as you have raised. We have our gray area MJ legalization here in DC but we can't set up a retail infrastructure because Congressional GOPers won't let us.

[Screw_Michigan]

Can you imagine how many billions of dollars we’d save on law enforcement alone if they didn’t have to enforce it?

Then again, it’d also bankrupt a lot of shit lawyers like the midget. That would make it even better!

Wouldn't bankrupt lawyers. It would slash police budgets deeply, which is why they oppose it so vehemently.

[Kierland]

Most of my clients are murders so fatty is wrong again, and just as yellow.

[Kierland]

That’s not a take fat man.

[Kierland]

How is 3rd grade treating you?

[Screw_Michigan]

Okay. I’m gonna lift the ban on the tiny nigglette for a few days to see why he wants my cock. He responds to every post I make, and I’m curious.

You really need some new material, tubby.

[Kierland]

He is a big fat idiot.

[smackaholic]

Cops love the Drug War because it’s easy. It’s not finding a needle in a haystack like tracking down a murder, cause there are needles everywhere, so they love it. They also like the corruption it affords thru civil forfeiture. Porky is an idiot.

Cops like drug wars because it grows the bidness, plain and simple.

Take away waging the "war on drugs" and you don't need so many cops.

And I agree on the civil forfeiture topic. Complete BS.

[smackaholic]

What are your thoughts on decriminalization?

In short, I think decriminalization is an imperfect but logical compromise between traditional drug criminalization and full legalization. Probably wouldn't need decrim if the feds would move marijuana and hallucinogens off Schedule 1. Decrim has issues as you have raised. We have our gray area MJ legalization here in DC but we can't set up a retail infrastructure because Congressional GOPers won't let us.

Don't pin it on the GOP solely. The "drug war" is a bipartisan effort of the nanny staters.

[Kierland]

Cops love the Drug War because it’s easy. It’s not finding a needle in a haystack like tracking down a murder, cause there are needles everywhere, so they love it. They also like the corruption it affords thru civil forfeiture. Porky is an idiot.

Cops like drug wars because it grows the bidness, plain and simple.

Take away waging the "war on drugs" and you don't need so many cops.

And I agree on the civil forfeiture topic. Complete BS.

All true. Same with all vice officers. Vegas is fine and they have gambling. Hell prostitution was legal in your own home in RI for the longest time and nobody batted an eye. Why? Because the myth that vice breads other crime is no more true than money breads bank robbers.

[Kierland]

Holic has more of a take than the fatman. What a pathetic melting fuck.

[Kierland]

The topic is decriminalization. GO!

[Innocent Bystander]

How will they make money off demonizing blacks for Columbian sins, if decriminalization exists? What's the angle?