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Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
Fuck off traitor, when Cali burns again you and you orange Nazis will do the same thing you did last year and bitch about how terrible left wingers are.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:09 am Disaster declarations should be above politics. Props to Biden.
I have heard far more about CA succession lately than in Texas
But yeah, keep taking your shots, karma tends to be a bitch. Meanwhile when fires get close to your casa again most of us will continue to offer our well wishes and prayers.
You true colors are shining thru loud and clear.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
You really have no clue as to what you're talking about.smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:47 am When Cali burns again, I suspect we'll say what we've been saying.
Manage your forest better. Firebreaks are a thing. Fill them with solar panels if that makes you feel better.
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
You've got me all wrong, my brother. I have never wished ill on y'all or any of the good people of Texas. Hell, my granddaughter is in school at SMU. Luckily they didn't get shut down, but also made sure in advance that everybody had a good supply of drinking water. Her mom owns a rental property in Austin. She hasn't been able to contact the property manager but it appears that it's pretty well trashed. They were shut down for two days.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:09 am Disaster declarations should be above politics. Props to Biden.
I have heard far more about CA succession lately than in Texas
But yeah, keep taking your shots, karma tends to be a bitch. Meanwhile when fires get close to your casa again most of us will continue to offer our well wishes and prayers.
You true colors are shining thru loud and clear.
So, the utility that you pay every month, and has a virtual monopoly, to provide a dependable supply of power doesn't owe you anything?No one owes you or your family anything; nor is it the local governments responsibility to support you during trying times like this! Sink or swim, it’s your choice! The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn hand out!
I've been raking like a mother fucker for the past year. Luckily no wild fires here since then.Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:51 amYou really have no clue as to what you're talking about.smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:47 am When Cali burns again, I suspect we'll say what we've been saying.
Manage your forest better. Firebreaks are a thing. Fill them with solar panels if that makes you feel better.
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
Yep, you sure do.
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
True to a certain degree. But in "the rest of the country" you have regional interaction in the grid. If California has a shortage we can import power from Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, etc. if they have extra capacity. It's been done on many occasions. Not so in Texas. If you want to play with others, you have to follow the mutually agreed-to rules. If you want to go it alone, then you have to deal with your problems by yourself.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:12 pm And yes, Texas has wanted to go it alone for years and it has worked well for the most part. That isn't to say there aren't issues and fixes that must be made asap. Wouldn't you rather have someone you elected making decisions vs someone in another State that might not have your best interest at heart? I certainly would, even with the issues we have seen this week.
What do you mean if California has a shortage? California imports more electricity than any other State. 32% of its power needs were imported in 2018. So you are already relying on other States for your daily needs. What happens when the demand grows in those other States or they have a natural disaster that takes generation off line.Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:26 pm
True to a certain degree. But in "the rest of the country" you have regional interaction in the grid. If California has a shortage we can import power from Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, etc. if they have extra capacity. It's been done on many occasions. Not so in Texas. If you want to play with others, you have to follow the mutually agreed-to rules. If you want to go it alone, then you have to deal with your problems by yourself.
Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
A lot of states import electricity. A lot of states export electricity. Yes, California is a net importer of electricity (25% in 2019, probably less in 2020) but not nearly the largest by %. When you are on a regional grid, it allows a lot more flexibility. Texas wants to go it alone. That's your choice and it's worked pretty well. Until now. Deal with it.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:43 pmWhat do you mean if California has a shortage? California imports more electricity than any other State. 32% of its power needs were imported in 2018. So you are already relying on other States for your daily needs. What happens when the demand grows in those other States or they have a natural disaster that takes generation off line.Mikey wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:26 pm
True to a certain degree. But in "the rest of the country" you have regional interaction in the grid. If California has a shortage we can import power from Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, etc. if they have extra capacity. It's been done on many occasions. Not so in Texas. If you want to play with others, you have to follow the mutually agreed-to rules. If you want to go it alone, then you have to deal with your problems by yourself.
Again I would rather rely on someone I elected and can hold accountable, than someone 4 States away that has to answer to their constituents first.
Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
No arguments there. Like I said, I'm not exactly a proponent of how the CA utilities have handled this stuff, which has also been unprecedented until the past couple of years. But we never came close to shutting down 4 million customers at the same time.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pm Again to each their own.
Shutting down people's power because the wind blows and your power lines will start fires is a pretty big clusterfuck. Much of your State doesn't see the type of cold Texas is getting (that we haven't ever seen in recorded time) which helps for sure.
But but but....private industry does things better than the government!!Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pm Again to each their own.
Shutting down people's power because the wind blows and your power lines will start fires is a pretty big clusterfuck.
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Do you doubt that?Diego in Seattle wrote:But but but....private industry does things better than the government!!Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pm Again to each their own.
Shutting down people's power because the wind blows and your power lines will start fires is a pretty big clusterfuck.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
Look at Texas. Yeah that's working out really well just about now.smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:00 pmDo you doubt that?Diego in Seattle wrote:But but but....private industry does things better than the government!!Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pm Again to each their own.
Shutting down people's power because the wind blows and your power lines will start fires is a pretty big clusterfuck.
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mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
When did PG&E become part of the state government?smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:42 pm Yes, Texas is having its shit pushed in at the moment as it experiences biblical level weather events.
Cali has been experiencing routine power fukk ups for a number of years.
If Texas has this level of failure during another cold snap 5 years down the road, then yea, they suck almost as bad as Cali.
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9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
So name all the California "power fukk ups" that involved State of California-owned utilities.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:10 pm Its not, but a good number in CA wanted the State to take over PG&E and make a public utility. Then Rona happened and I am not sure if PG&E still rated attention.
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
PG&E very well may be a private company, but they are forced to jump through federal and state hoops that make their job much more difficult.Diego in Seattle wrote:When did PG&E become part of the state government?smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:42 pm Yes, Texas is having its shit pushed in at the moment as it experiences biblical level weather events.
Cali has been experiencing routine power fukk ups for a number of years.
If Texas has this level of failure during another cold snap 5 years down the road, then yea, they suck almost as bad as Cali.
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Take your time...
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
You mean hoops like preparing for wx-related circumstances that might present not only a power threat, but a threat of fire as well? If anything the last big fukk up showed that California wasn't as strict with a private power company as it should have been. Google Porter Ranch gas" & you'll see another private utility fukking over citizens.smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 amPG&E very well may be a private company, but they are forced to jump through federal and state hoops that make their job much more difficult.Diego in Seattle wrote:When did PG&E become part of the state government?smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:42 pm Yes, Texas is having its shit pushed in at the moment as it experiences biblical level weather events.
Cali has been experiencing routine power fukk ups for a number of years.
If Texas has this level of failure during another cold snap 5 years down the road, then yea, they suck almost as bad as Cali.
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Take your time...
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
My comment was aimed more towards the push to renewables.Diego in Seattle wrote:You mean hoops like preparing for wx-related circumstances that might present not only a power threat, but a threat of fire as well? If anything the last big fukk up showed that California wasn't as strict with a private power company as it should have been. Google Porter Ranch gas" & you'll see another private utility fukking over citizens.smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 amPG&E very well may be a private company, but they are forced to jump through federal and state hoops that make their job much more difficult.Diego in Seattle wrote: When did PG&E become part of the state government?
Take your time...
What you call hoops the rest of us call safety regulations.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
Try googling "climate change."smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:02 amMy comment was aimed more towards the push to renewables.Diego in Seattle wrote:You mean hoops like preparing for wx-related circumstances that might present not only a power threat, but a threat of fire as well? If anything the last big fukk up showed that California wasn't as strict with a private power company as it should have been. Google Porter Ranch gas" & you'll see another private utility fukking over citizens.smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 am
PG&E very well may be a private company, but they are forced to jump through federal and state hoops that make their job much more difficult.
What you call hoops the rest of us call safety regulations.
Why didn’t PG&E have these problems 20 years ago?
No, it has nothing to do with plants & everything to do with greed.Could it be because they had sufficient traditional plants in place?
9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:11 pm Republican Senator Ted Cruz shows how compassionate he & his party are as well as how hard he works for his constituents by popping smoke & heading to Cancun...
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9/27/22“Left Seater” wrote:So charges are around the corner?
Texas is a disaster due kleptos and greedy traitorous fucks like you. How many people got 8k bills while the kleptos killed dozens of people? Ca is only as good as it is because of a few people trying to reign in the greed and corruption that you let run wild. Fuck off fatso.Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pm Again to each their own.
Shutting down people's power because the wind blows and your power lines will start fires is a pretty big clusterfuck. Much of your State doesn't see the type of cold Texas is getting (that we haven't ever seen in recorded time) which helps for sure.
He finally admitted he changed his mind. BrokenPsyche will still suck his dick for a tax cut.Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:20 am
That's a pretty big suitcase for only staying overnight, Fled Cruz....
Fuck off traitor. You know less about PGE than you do about election fraud. Eat a dick Nazi.smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:02 amMy comment was aimed more towards the push to renewables.Diego in Seattle wrote:You mean hoops like preparing for wx-related circumstances that might present not only a power threat, but a threat of fire as well? If anything the last big fukk up showed that California wasn't as strict with a private power company as it should have been. Google Porter Ranch gas" & you'll see another private utility fukking over citizens.smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 am
PG&E very well may be a private company, but they are forced to jump through federal and state hoops that make their job much more difficult.
What you call hoops the rest of us call safety regulations.
Why didn’t PG&E have these problems 20 years ago?
Could it be because they had sufficient traditional plants in place?
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Moving Sale wrote:I really are a fucking POS.
Softball Bat wrote: I am the dumbest motherfucker ever to post on the board.
Yes. The first place they can save is to stop wasting money trying to ensure the stability of the electric grid.Left Seater wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:35 pm It’s time to replace Teddy.
We need someonetheirthere that wants to cut spending.