Quit spouting what you THINK is the law & actually read what the law actually says:LTS TRN 2 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:56 amWell I certainly grant that they were clumsy in their efforts, but the point is that their intent was that of a Neighborhood Watch group, not a murderous racist lynch mob--as has been directly asserted and chanted and accepted as cannon by the Woke mob. But a No Trespassing sign is not necessary at all to distinguish private property--especially a house. You ignore the fact that tools and so forth had indeed been stolen recently--from other properties as well in the secluded community. As for the shooting, why is the fact of Arbery clearly being the assailant in the physical encounter with the son being ignored and dismissed? This is the central factor in the entire event, while the racial factor is the most irrelevant.Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:22 amFirst off, TM never mentioned trespassing. My guess is that the property didn't have any "No Trespassing" signs to indicate that by entering w/o permission of the owner was trespassing. And all the time that TM was describing his pursuit of AA he never once mentioned trespassing as either his motivation to detain AA or that he told AA he was being arrested for trespassing. So trespassing wasn't the crime in question.
Second, others were observed walking around the house. How did TM know that AA was the one taking the tools? When TM confronted AA on the night of Feb 11th AA didn't have any tools on him. So TM had no specific knowledge that AA was taking anything from the house. So no, TM didn't see a burglar leaving the house. In fact, he never saw him leaving the house at all on the night of the 23rd. He went after AA only because the neighbors were pointing in AA's direction. TM didn't have enough of a case to detain AA as a police officer, much less as a civilian. And a detention requires a hell of a lot less reasonable cause than an arrest.
Not only did Arbery not violate the GA law on trespassing, property owner Larry English testified in a deposition that Arbery had never disturbed anything on his property. English also testified that Arbery had not damaged or disturbed the property in any way. So the likelyhood of TM ever seeing AA committing a crime on that property is almost non-existent.GA Trespassing Law wrote: 2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 7 - DAMAGE TO AND INTRUSION UPON PROPERTY
ARTICLE 2 - CRIMINAL TRESPASS AND DAMAGE TO PROPERTY
PART 1 - GENERAL PROVISIONS
§ 16-7-21 - Criminal trespass
O.C.G.A. 16-7-21 (2010)
16-7-21. Criminal trespass
(a) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally damages any property of another without consent of that other person and the damage thereto is $500.00 or less or knowingly and maliciously interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without consent of that person.
(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:
(1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose;
(2) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant that such entry is forbidden; or
(3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart.
(c) For the purposes of subsection (b) of this Code section, permission to enter or invitation to enter given by a minor who is or is not present on or in the property of the minor's parent or guardian is not sufficient to allow lawful entry of another person upon the land, premises, vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft owned or rightfully occupied by such minor's parent or guardian if such parent or guardian has previously given notice that such entry is forbidden or notice to depart.
(d) A person who commits the offense of criminal trespass shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
(e) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally defaces, mutilates, or defiles any grave marker, monument, or memorial to one or more deceased persons who served in the military service of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof, or a monument, plaque, marker, or memorial which is dedicated to, honors, or recounts the military service of any past or present military personnel of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof if such grave marker, monument, memorial, plaque, or marker is privately owned or located on land which is privately owned.
https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/20 ... -1/16-7-21
Additionally, English testified that not only did he never authorized either McMichael to confront anyone on his property, he barely knew them. This eliminates any possibility of the McMichaels ability to lawfully enforce or serve a trespassing notice on Arbery (as required by the law shown above).
And as to this being racially charged....
Property owner English also that a couple was seen on video (shown in court) with what he described as a tool bag. He called 911 3 times that night (calls played in court). This took place 3 months prior to the Arbery shooting. The couple was white. Yet the McMichaels pursued a balck man who they had not observed committing a crime.
Sure...no racial motivation found in this case....
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