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There he goes again...

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Howie steps in it once more:

"It's clear that there was massive voter suppression" in Ohio in the 2004 presidential election. Dean pointed to an "appearance of impropriety" in the actions of Republican election officials in Ohio, adding that, "It's been widely reported over the last years that Republicans do target African-Americans for voter suppression." Dean said that Democrats could "not conclude one way or the other" whether John Kerry would have won if the alleged suppression had not taken place.

LMAO!!!

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Of course you can't refute Dean's statement.
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Why bother refuting it.

The Florida Constitution stated that county elections supervisors were responsible for ballot design, ballot machine allocation, and voter registration, yet, you people declared that Jeb and Harris were responsible.

There's no reason to refute what he said. In the first place we haven't even seen the report that the DNC drafted alleging these things.

Settle down, dolt. Lets wait and see if the Democrats actually release their report.

BTW - it appears that the evidence for this allegation of "massive voter suppression" is the "appearance of impropriety."

No need to say anything further, really.
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Post by Variable »

Of course you can't refute Dean's statement.
Why bother, where's Dean's link? :D

"It's clear" and "widely reported" are worse generalizations than even *I* use to make a point, and that's saying something. When he can quote a news story or independent survey, it'll matter. Until then, it's just a bunch of crap.

Here, I can do it too: "It's clear that Democrats have historically been the largest perpetrators of election fraud. It's been widely reported that California Democratic pollworkers in Republican districts often destroy or fail to deliver ballot boxes to the designated offices." Hey, that was fun!

Blacks' votes are being suppressed? As a demographic, don't they generally vote at about a 10% clip? Sounds like they suppress themselves far better than any Republicans ever could.
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Mehlman swings back...

"The report is pure political fiction," Mehlman writes. "The undisputed facts in Ohio are:

Democrat officials had to be stopped by the courts from misleading voters about the day of the election;

a Democrat affiliated group paid a worker in crack cocaine to submit fraudulent voter forms; and

Democrat allies attempted to disenfranchise Ohio voters by submitting registration cards for Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Michael Jordan.

Republicans will continue to register and inspire new voters, make it easier for everyone to vote at the polls and protect everyone's franchise from being cancelled out by illegal or fraudulent registration."

'Bode.
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BSmack wrote:Of course you can't refute Dean's statement.
I am as anti-Bush as the next guy, but the onus is on Dean to come up with more than a sound-bite, otherwise all the refutaion needed would be, "It is far from clear there was any voter suppression." ...a-a-a-a-and stalemate.
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See You Next Wednesday wrote:
BSmack wrote:Of course you can't refute Dean's statement.
I am as anti-Bush as the next guy, but the onus is on Dean to come up with more than a sound-bite, otherwise all the refutaion needed would be, "It is far from clear there was any voter suppression." ...a-a-a-a-and stalemate.
Voter suppression doesn't mean the same thing in Ohio.

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More fun with the Downing Street Memo...
C reported on his recent talks in Ohio. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. A claim of voter fraud was now seen as inevitable. Democrats wanted to embarass Republicans, through claims of fraud against blacks, justified by the conjunction of reported different election dates and polling places. But the hyperbole and allegations were being fixed around the claims of voter fraud.
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Variable wrote:More fun with the Downing Street Memo...
C reported on his recent talks in Ohio. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. A claim of voter fraud was now seen as inevitable. Democrats wanted to embarass Republicans, through claims of fraud against blacks, justified by the conjunction of reported different election dates and polling places. But the hyperbole and allegations were being fixed around the claims of voter fraud.
Hey, you made a funnah.
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