Question for libs

[Kierland]

I have seen most of you ask: What would it take to stop your support of Dump?
My question is: What would it take for you to stop pussyfooting with Nazis? No more being nice when you don’t have to be (here vs Tune Town for example) no more ballgames and troll stops, no more civil threads about sports or music.

I am obviously already there. What’s it going to take (if anything) for you?

[Carson]

Fuck you.

[Screw_Michigan]

I have seen most of you ask: What would it take to stop your support of Dump?
My question is: What would it take for you to stop pussyfooting with Nazis? No more being nice when you don’t have to be (here vs Tune Town for example) no more ballgames and troll stops, no more civil threads about sports or music.

I am obviously already there. What’s it going to take (if anything) for you?

[Kierland]

So no serious answers so far.

[Mikey]

If you want serious answers, you should pose serious questions.

Just saying...

[Kierland]

So 0/3 plus Carson being his usual brain dead self.

Exactly what I expected.

[Salsashark]

So 0/3 plus Carson being his usual brain dead self.

Exactly what I expected.

Hey Galvin how you doin? You get a chance to visit Zoltar yet?

[LTS TRN 2]

Is Squirm Worm prepared to actually define a "nazzi"? How about a "fascist" or "racist"? Of course he won't. And neither will any of the Woke assholes who are curled in fetal position seething like a bawling baby with a big ol' steamer in their diaper.

But I will. While there are no more German National Socialists, the hyper-military race-state (crime syndicate) mantle has been passed to--or rather taken by--the Zionists, those hooknosed parasites currently running your government as well as the international banking systems. And yes they murder whomever they like not merely with a brazen impunity but with a dire imperative.

As for "fascists," these are folks who believe their cause mandates By Any Means Necessary, and that means staging a riot on a campus when a conservative speaker is scheduled to appear. Or burning down a police station. Or calling for the assassination of Supreme Court justices, etc.

As for "racist," this is front and center in the BLM movement as well as the radical anti-white narrative being pumped into movies, advertisements, hiring and admission policies, and everything associated with "Diversity, Equity, and inclusion." It's pure racism, and fuckstains like Squirm Worm are completely on board. What a disgusting punk.

[Roach]

Nazi: Some definitions possibly relevant to this discussion.

A person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.

A person with extreme racist or authoritarian views.

Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system.

As I get older and more independant I am way more impatient with bullshit and stupidity. We are taught to be nice to assholes who hurt us and smile at the pickpockets. Well I say fuck you to them a lot more now. But can we change them? Prolly not. And most are to lazy to try.

Sort of an answer to your question. Obviouly I am not 100% for the cause yet, or I would be at city hall right now.

[Softball Bat]

Is Squirm Worm prepared to actually define a "nazzi"? How about a "fascist" or "racist"?

He has used the words so often now that they have completely lost their impact.
A neutering.

A few weeks ago MS and I had a different view on some issue, which I can't recall now, and all of a sudden within about 2 days I was a racist, misogynist, and a nazi.

haha!

[Kierland]

I remember what it was. Funny how your memory sucks, but somehow I’m the one that shouldn’t be taken seriously. And just because you use the word “the” in almost every post you have ever posted doesn’t mean it’s lost it’s meaning. That’s just what people in denial do whether they be murders, Nazis, creeps or racists.

So several posts in and not one person has actually answered the question. Lots of fallacies and Whataboutism and other BS though. Roach is closest and seems to be the only one that actually tried, and I don’t even consider him a lib and wasn’t even expecting him to reply.

[BSmack]

I’m a 50 something husband and father, not some man-child wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, selling liberation at $10.00 a hit.


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[Bill in Houston]

True liberals absolutely should post more on anonymous message boards, arguing with shit trolls. That’s what will bring about the change we need.

No need to work in our communities doing real actions that effect human lives. Bring on the bots.

[Kierland]

So dismissal and deflection, as if this isn’t a community and it’s not possible to fight “IRL” and here.

[Kierland]

I’m a 50 something husband and father, not some man-child wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, selling liberation at $10.00 a hit.


Sent from my iPhone using a big network of tubes.

Close to an answer. So thanks for that.
A) Being old has nothing to do with your ability to do the right thing.
B) Family is a good reason to not want to get yourself tased or worse by the cops in a protest I guess but is all the more reason to need to see threats for what they are.
C) The closer is just more dismissal.

[Smackie Chan]

What would it take for you to stop pussyfooting with Nazis? No more being nice when you don’t have to be (here vs Tune Town for example) no more ballgames and troll stops, no more civil threads about sports or music.

I'll insert several patronizing line breaks so Screwy won't get too butt hurt over walls of text.

First, your definition of "Nazi" is far too broad. Simply voting for Trump, identifying as a conservative, or handing out wristbands to get Halloween candy does not meet any reasonable threshold for applying such a label. The closest thing we have to a Nazi up in this bitch is LTS_TRD2MUCH with his fixation on the Juden, and even he isn't a true Nazi.

But IF there were real Nazis here, my answer to your question is pretty simple: I just wouldn't befriend or play nice with them. Not real difficult.

You're not limiting your question to real Nazis, though, so I'll address it from a broader perspective.

Life is richer and far more interesting if one engages in rational discussions/debates (something you might wanna try sometime) with those whose opinions and viewpoints differ from your own. What fun is there in just preaching to the choir?

Regarding the individuals to whom your post refers (88, Left Seater, et al), I have no desire to to stop being nice or socializing with them. Even though I don't share many of their opinions or political beliefs, they are not Nazis, and are decent people. While I don't consider myself a true "lib," which is the group to whom your question is addressed per the thread title, I probably lean further in that direction than they do, so I'm taking the liberty of submitting a reply anyway.

To oversimplify complex political issues and draw a necessary distinction, my response to your question deals more with Republican vs Democrat than lib vs Nazi. Given that distinction, and understanding that there's no way in hell I'd EVER support or vote for Trump, it's not that difficult to understand why a substantially large segment of voters would back the orange man. It's easy for me (and others, I'm sure) to just chalk it up to either stupidity or that they are just evil, but that's a lazy way out.

A more reasoned explanation would be combinations of religious beliefs (which I don't think play into the reasons for either 88 or Lefty to vote for Trump), visions of what America should be (which differ from what I, and certainly you, believe), and a belief that Democrats have swung WAY too far to the left, what with their idiotic wokeness and cancel culture ideologies.

I know you'll disagree with me on that since you've freely admitted that it's impossible to go too far to the left based on your silly little quadranted matrix of political beliefs that you've posted on a few occasions where you've indicated that yours fall in the far southwest corner, making you an extremist on both axes. Not surprisingly, and maybe even to your awareness, getting others to come around to your way of seeing things would be a Herculean task even if you employed some semblance of reasoned discourse to support your position, which you've never done. Most people fall closer to the middle and shun extremism, especially double extremism since you're as far left and south as possible.

I haven't had many interactions with Lefty, but I have with 88, and in so doing have found that we have more in common politically than both of us had previously thought. That tends to happen when rational discussions take place rather than shunning someone based on superficial knowledge of what you think the other participant might believe.

Hope this helps but I'm sure it won't.

[LTS TRN 2]

Nazi: Some definitions possibly relevant to this discussion.

A person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.

A person with extreme racist or authoritarian views.

Indeed, "roach," while your criteria is very broad, notice how it fits perfectly with the Woke narrative and agenda. For example, notice how the Woke mob will actually start a large violent riot on a campus to prevent a conservative speaker from appearing. Similarly, notice how they will demand and dissenting voice be "cancelled" from the public square. Notice how out front they are in their (anti-white) racism. Notice how their actual agenda is extremely radical--basically equating the nuclear family with nuclear waste, and condemning America and its founding as a crime scene.

As for Smackie's cheap assertion of my being a "nazzi" because I abhor Zionism, well this is typical simplistic confusion. In fact the Zionists and Nazzis are basically identical. Consider:

First, both were committed to a blood-purity race-state. That is, both Herzl and Hitler feared that their respective racial stocks were becoming diluted though unchecked interbreeding with goyim/auflanders.

Second, both envisioned the new rebirth being founded on a socialist state model, wherein the race-centered citizens would be obliged first and foremost to serve their respective racial state.

Third, all sorts of gerrymandering and skullduggery were entailed in establishing the respective race-states.

Fourth, the establishment of the respective race states quickly led to tremendous instability and warfare in the respective regions.

Fifth, both race-states viciously attacked its respective "enemies" on the loudly proclaimed and repeated claims of "self-defense" and "regaining land historically part of our race-state," etc.

Sixth, each enjoyed significant support from the United States--both openly and surreptitiously--and took such support for granted until such times as it felt it advantageous to attack the U.S.

Seventh, both were roundly condemned by (hamstrung) international bodies for their respective records of gross human rights violations. The U.N., of course, officially pronounced the two doctrines as essentially one and the same.

Eighth, both were committed to maintaining at all cost the semblance of a modern First World society--symphony orchestras as bombs ripped nearby.

Ninth, both are essentially intolerant, ruthless, and willing to do ANYTHING to hold on to power.

And Tenth, both are martial law, razor-wire societies with nervous armed guards EVERYWHERE on every corner, spying constantly on everyone, and simply building more and more razor-wire giant fences and compounds.

And then there's the whole international crime syndicate, including but not limited to, massive drug rings (all of the MDMA), human trafficking, arms dealing, extortion, organ peddling (!!), cybercrime, porn, and of course money laundering (Trump). :wink:

[LTS TRN 2]

But meanwhile here at home...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1577849918919688192

[Kierland]

What would it take for you to stop pussyfooting with Nazis? No more being nice when you don’t have to be (here vs Tune Town for example) no more ballgames and troll stops, no more civil threads about sports or music.

I'll insert several patronizing line breaks so Screwy won't get too butt hurt over walls of text.

First, your definition of "Nazi" is far too broad. Simply voting for Trump, identifying as a conservative, or handing out wristbands to get Halloween candy does not meet any reasonable threshold for applying such a label. The closest thing we have to a Nazi up in this bitch is LTS_TRD2MUCH with his fixation on the Juden, and even he isn't a true Nazi.
Thats my question. When does a regular German citizen become a Nazi by tacit or past support of Hitler.
But IF there were real Nazis here, my answer to your question is pretty simple: I just wouldn't befriend or play nice with them. Not real difficult.
Thanks for answering a question I didn’t ask. The question is what would get you there.
You're not limiting your question to real Nazis, though, so I'll address it from a broader perspective.

Life is richer and far more interesting if one engages in rational discussions/debates (something you might wanna try sometime) with those whose opinions and viewpoints differ from your own. What fun is there in just preaching to the choir?
Ration debate is for rational people. Again the question is what would make you think someone’s support of a cause was irrational.
Regarding the individuals to whom your post refers (88, Left Seater, et al), I have no desire to to stop being nice or socializing with them. Even though I don't share many of their opinions or political beliefs, they are not Nazis, and are decent people.
Yes I know that. What would it take to change you mind about them. I can’t believe someone with your intelligence is muffing this so badly.
While I don't consider myself a true "lib," which is the group to whom your question is addressed per the thread title, I probably lean further in that direction than they do, so I'm taking the liberty of submitting a reply anyway.

To oversimplify complex political issues and draw a necessary distinction, my response to your question deals more with Republican vs Democrat than lib vs Nazi. Given that distinction, and understanding that there's no way in hell I'd EVER support or vote for Trump, it's not that difficult to understand why a substantially large segment of voters would back the orange man. It's easy for me (and others, I'm sure) to just chalk it up to either stupidity or that they are just evil, but that's a lazy way out.

A more reasoned explanation would be combinations of religious beliefs (which I don't think play into the reasons for either 88 or Lefty to vote for Trump), visions of what America should be (which differ from what I, and certainly you, believe), and a belief that Democrats have swung WAY too far to the left, what with their idiotic wokeness and cancel culture ideologies.
I know all that and asked your opinion on none of it. Again what would have to change for you to change your mind.

I know you'll disagree with me on that since you've freely admitted that it's impossible to go too far to the left based on your silly little quadranted matrix
I never said that and it’s not silly. It’s not perfect but it’s literally a whole dimension better than left and right which is what most people use and you never seem to have much problem with.

of political beliefs that you've posted on a few occasions where you've indicated that yours fall in the far southwest corner, making you an extremist on both axes.
If you think being aligned with Gandhi and MLK is extreme then that tells me a lot about why you don’t think 88’s views are extreme.

Not surprisingly, and maybe even to your awareness, getting others to come around to your way of seeing things would be a Herculean task even if you employed some semblance of reasoned discourse to support your position,
I have helped a family deprogram their kid from a cult so I know both the quality and the quantity of the work needed. I’m not trying to do that with 88 and his naziis. I’m not even trying to do it to the left in here. I’m simply asking for information.

which you've never done. Most people fall closer to the middle and shun extremism, especially double extremism since you're as far left and south as possible.
Again not true. I’m as far left and down from center as Obama is up and right of center.

I haven't had many interactions with Lefty, but I have with 88, and in so doing have found that we have more in common politically than both of us had previously thought.
You obviously like 88. It appears your wives like each other. And you each appear to like each other’s wives. So again what support of what cause of the 88’s would it take to change your mind?

That tends to happen when rational discussions take place rather than shunning someone based on superficial knowledge of what you think the other participant might believe.
Again, I know that, which is why I asked a rational question and have been proceeding in this thread accordingly. I have no desire to do the same with right wing tards.

Hope this helps but I'm sure it won't.

It didn’t help me find and answer to my question, but all information is good to know so thanks for that.

[mvscal]

Is Squirm Worm prepared to actually define a "nazzi"? How about a "fascist" or "racist"? Of course he won't.

That's easy enough. Anyone who disagrees with him is any or all of those things depending on his whim. Of course, if Trump voters and conservatives were actual Nazzis, he would have gone up a chimney in a puff of smoke years ago.

[Kierland]

Cold threats from mvskkkal. More cosplay from the trogs.

[LTS TRN 2]

The "left" has become a farcical meltdown of bratty children...this is the norm, and there's nothing more to it...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1584730869637722112

[Kierland]

Does anyone actual click on metal patient’s links?

[Softball Bat]

He linked us to a NSFW site a couple months ago.
Since that time I click no link of his unless it is Youtube.

[LTS TRN 2]

It's twitter, you little baby.

[Donnie Baker's Ghost]

Does anyone actual click on metal patient’s links?

I click on them. I click on your links as well. Information is not scary.

[Kierland]

True but malware is.

[Donnie Baker's Ghost]

I use apple. Malware is a Microsoft problem.

[Screw_Michigan]

I use apple. Malware is a Microsoft problem.