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Another interesting dichotomy on the left...

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We saw during the Schiavo event that the left was more than willing to value protecting the rights and life of criminals moreso than of an innocent, defenseless individual.

This Kelo demonstrates, again, the left's preference for the privacy and protection rights of criminals relative to others.

Before the FBI can raid a suspected criminals office, they first have to get a search warrant by establishing to the satisfaction of a judge probable cause both that a crime had been or was being committed and that evidence of the crime would be found in those offices.

Not only that. So deeply concerned is our law with the rights and privacy interests of criminals that, when they become defendants, they get a second bite at the apple: namely, they are permitted to move to suppress the evidence seized on the ground that the search warrant was improperly obtained. If they lose and are convicted, they get to litigate the search all over again on appeal.

At each stage, the government must satisfy the court that its reason for doing the search was compelling enough (i.e., satisfied “probable cause”) to overcome the privacy interest.

Under Kelo, however, the innocent homeowner is out of luck.
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How very liberal of you. Your title holds true once again, you self-proclaimed liberal.
DrDetroit wrote:It's an actvist judicial decision based on the premise that the Constitution is a living document and results in tearing away from citizens private property rights while expanding the authority of the State.

Quite "liberal" in my book.
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Aside from this nonsense:
We saw during the Schiavo event that the left was more than willing to value protecting the rights and life of criminals moreso than of an innocent, defenseless individual.
I fail to see where is the liberal glee over the Kelo decision? Aside from the judges, is there a liberal commentator who has said this is a good decision? I suppose there are some, but I haven't seen any.

I declare "strawman".
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Who has suggested that there is liberal glee re: Kelo?
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Load of Crap. While Eminent domain is an absolutely shitty practice IMO, it has been done many, many times in many, many areas around the country. This appears to be a blatant case of misuse of that power, but where you see that all liberals support it is a laughable concept at best.

Really, you're aiming your guns in the wrong direction. Corporate greed should be your target.
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out of context at all?
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mvscal wrote:It's pretty self-explanatory.

"Taking things away from you for the common good" is the core "progressive" philosophy.
As opposed to the core philosophy of capitalisim which is take what you can and fuck everybody else.
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Not surprised that the lefties missed it on this one...

You people demand and provide far more protections to criminals than to people who have no committed a crime.
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Help the poor kids?

How? By bulldozing their homes?

I think we should all head out there and pull a mass Rache Corrie.
That should show 'em.
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It's one of the more interesting ironies of American politics in the last four decades. The liberals urban renewal programs literally stole the homes of low-income blacks who have voted Democratic at 90%+ since the 60's...
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DrDetroit wrote:It's one of the more interesting ironies of American politics in the last four decades. The liberals urban renewal programs literally stole the homes of low-income blacks who have voted Democratic at 90%+ since the 60's...
Yeah, but they got "just compensation" right?

Seriously, though, I can remember stories from back when they were actually building freeways of people speculating on where the next one was going in (or finding out surreptitiously) and buying up homes in the path so they could sell them to the gubmint at an inflated price.

I guess one person's "just compensation" is another person's fortune is another person's way of getting told to get the fuck out by the man.
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