Because it gave no indication of them actually making a nuclear bomb. They haven't done that yet. At this point they are still using nuclear power for "energy generating purposes" Or so they say
You didn't qualify it as such. You merely were discussing when they had the components and I noted that despite having the components they hadn't put it together, yet. I think you glossed over it because it was something germane to the discussion as you started it and not knowing it made you appear foolish.
The last piece they needed was enriched uranium. Theyhave that now.
What results? Please clarify what results (in terms of being successful that is) sanctions and resolutions had in Iraq?
There were no positive results...that was point. On the other hand, you were among those arguing that Bush didn't let diplomacy work long enought, abandoned diplomacy, etc.
Immediate? Since when is 15 years of UN economic sanctions and over ten years of weapons sanctions immediate?
We were talking about asking for sanctions and inspections, right? Well, we knew right away following the imposition of the new inspections that Saddam would not comply.
He diverted the war on terror to get at saddam with insufficient intelligence and a lack of properly trained and supplied soldiers. Just because he calls it the "war on terror" doesn't make it one.
The diversion shit, again?? LOL!!
We were effectively done in Afghanistan, Bushice. You aren't going to go looking for OBL with 150,000 troops. At least that is what the experts, the military, say, and their opinion on the matter is much more credible than yours.
And where do you think the world's terrorists are going right now? To be killed in Iraq. That's better than training and attacking us here in the US.
Oh, and enough with the bullshit "insufficient intelligence" canard. There's never sufficient intelligence, ass.
And then he went against the UN. Difference?
Who cares? The fact still remains that he engaged the institution to the point that the individual interests of that institution's members prevented that institution from enforcing its own resolutions.
What you're essentially arguing is that the US should go to the UN to have resolutions passed yet be content to watch as those resolutions go unenforced.
Thus the term "Useless" used in the first post in this thread.
So you think the Un is useless, then?
Then why the nonsense re: Bush going against the UN?
Make up your mind?
Don't re focus on Iraq here. Take the same mentality that got us into Iraq and apply it to the Iranian situation
It applies the same way. Hence, diplomacy will fail. This is not some profound observation/conclusion, Bushice.
"National Interests"? You mean invading Iraq? Just how was bringing down saddam in our "National Interests"
It's been explained to you several times. You don't accept the basis of the argument. Why should I bother?
WHy, Because you said "The majority of Iranians want our help" but "It has not been reported." Did your tin foil hat tell you this?
Again, you either blatantly lie about what I posted or you simply have a bad memory.
I posted:
Yes we do know that a significant portion of that population want our help. It's simply not reported. It typically manifests itself on campuses outside of Tehran. I'd post Michael Ledeens writing on this but you'd discount it simply because he writes for National Review.
Bullshit. You said the majority of Iranians want our help, and the evidence you presented was that it "typically manifests itself on campuses outside of Tehran"
How in hell is this representative of a "Majority" unless the majority go to colleges outside of Tehran?
As I just pointed out...you misread what I posted.
Bull. If the government controls them to that extent, they are hardly in a majority position.
it's funny how in every instance of someone misreading another's post, they typically go overboard talking about it. Divert, much?
You're flopping back on Iraq, I'm looking forward to Iran. Different country same concept.
You posted this in response to me telling that I wasn't trying to steer the discussion to one re: oppressed Iranians.
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What you actually mean is Bushs form of Diplomacy does not work.
Hmmm, he got inspections restarted after Clinton just stood by as Iraq kicked them out in 1998. That's after proposing and getting unanimous approval for a 16th resolution at the UN.
He got inspections restarted in Iran.
He got China, South Korea, Russia, and China in on the North Korea talks, something that Clinton failed to do so.
That's pretty successful if you ask me. That's better than three states still giving us the middle finger.
Have you ever watched his press conferences with foreign leaders? Fucking pitiful that someone leading this country talks in public like a retarded teenager.
Oh, boy, here we go again. :roll:
having failed on the substantive part, you'll attack the person now.
So I missed the link. Sorry. But since the VA doesn't divulge any detail, I think it would be just as safe to conclude that not ALL the stats provided are a result of DU exposure and quite possibly include other things that wear and tear on a soldier's body. Quite a bit. I know a dude whose knees are shot after four years in the infantry. Humping his ruck and an M-60, extra rounds, and on DRILL, having to drop, set up and then move and then drop, set up, etc.. etc.. etc..