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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am
StrawMan wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:35 pm Suni Williams to the International Space Station.
I looked her up. 58 years old, looks like she's been doing speed tests without a wind screen. Would not want to see her in high G.
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Boeing’s Starliner is set to Launch May 06, err May 10, umm May 17, err May 21, 2024.

NASA, Boeing Now Working Toward May 25 Launch of Crew Flight Test

https://blogs.nasa.gov/boeing-crew-flight-test/

Bzzzzzzrrrrrrrtttttt... try try again.

Boeing Starliner's 1st astronaut launch delayed again, this time with no new flight date

"The next possible launch opportunity is still being discussed."


A Winning Card of Bullshit Bingo: "The team has been in meetings for two consecutive days, assessing flight rationale, system performance, and redundancy. There is still forward work in these areas, and the next possible launch opportunity is still being discussed," the e-mail update read in part. . . .

https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner- ... aunch-date


Related: "2 astronaut taxis: Why NASA wants both Boeing's Starliner and SpaceX's Dragon"

https://www.space.com/nasa-boeing-starl ... redundancy

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Yeesh. At this point do we turn over the whole project over to Richard Branson?
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... or Stanley Kubrick.

Wait...



Oh, he's -----> dead.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:05 pm ... or Stanley Kubrick.

Wait...



Oh, he's -----> dead.
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 2:52 pm Yeesh. At this point do we turn over the whole project over to Richard Branson?
Relocate the project to Western New York. They'll have a Pontiac 6000 and a Bugatti Chiron in orbit by the end of the week.
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 2:52 pm Yeesh. At this point do we turn over the whole project over to Richard Branson?
I don't know. Someone died at during a Virgin Galactic test flight. Boeing's space unit hasn't killed anyone...yet. Scoreboard: Boeing, I guess.
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Some Lackey wrote:June 1, 2024 at 12:35 PM
SCRUB! Starliner launch attempt called off


United Launch Alliance has called an official scrub while engineers work to understand why a Ground Launch Sequencer called an automatic hold 3 minutes and 50 seconds before liftoff.

There will be no Starliner launch today.

Boeing and ULA may attempt another launch try on Sunday, June 2, if they can clear the issue in time.
Unbeebable. These idiots couldn't find their ass with both hands.
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Did it happen? Did our brave BoeNaughts go to space yet?
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:41 pm Did it happen? Did our brave BoeNaughts go to space yet?
No. It was delayed once again. June 5 now.
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StrawMan wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:51 pm Unbeebable. These idiots couldn't find their ass with both hands.
I don't see what the big deal is. A computer called it off. Better safe than sorry.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:34 pm
StrawMan wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:51 pm Unbeebable. These idiots couldn't find their ass with both hands.
I don't see what the big deal is. A computer called it off. Better safe than sorry.
Especially for Boeing right now. They'll scrub a launch for the minutest of reasons. If this thing immolates on national television, Boeing's market cap will be in free fall. They can't chance any little malfunction or they'll get memefucked into bankruptcy court.
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Good call, but NASA in general will scrub launches for the tiniest of reasons. They aren't willing to risk people being blown to smithereens. And nor should they.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:34 pm
StrawMan wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 4:51 pm Unbeebable. These idiots couldn't find their ass with both hands.
I don't see what the big deal is. A computer called it off. Better safe than sorry.
It's not a big deal. I was pretty chapped when I posted that, having watched hours of pre-flight, only to have them scrub at -3:50.

IIRC, if they can't launch tomorrow or Thursday, they may be looking at another indefinite delay, though. That would be a big deal. There is only one docking port on the ISS that's compatible with the Boeing Starliner, and there are other scheduled flights coming up that will have to use it.

Successful or not, millions over budget and years behind schedule is still a big deal. Just get the crew up there and home in one piece already.
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StrawMan wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:56 pm It's not a big deal. I was pretty chapped when I posted that, having watched hours of pre-flight, only to have them scrub at -3:50.
I'd be pretty chapped, too.
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Boeing finally got it right (so far after 21 minutes of flight).

After about 6 minutes of flight one could see the curvature of the Earf in plain sight. Well, most of us....
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Diego wrote:After about 6 minutes of flight one could see the curvature of the Earf in plain sight. Well, most of us....
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:16 pm Good call, but NASA in general will scrub launches for the tiniest of reasons. They aren't willing to risk people being blown to smithereens. And nor should they.
Wait? What? THA FUCK!!

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Softball Bat wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:12 pm
Diego wrote:After about 6 minutes of flight one could see the curvature of the Earf in plain sight. Well, most of us....
Link?
SpaceX's camera coverage blows away NASA's. Check out footage from today's launch, from the 39:00 mark to the 49:00 minute mark.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission ... p-flight-4

Deece camera work! Your thoughts?
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mvscal wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:46 pm
Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:16 pm Good call, but NASA in general will scrub launches for the tiniest of reasons. They aren't willing to risk people being blown to smithereens. And nor should they.
Wait? What? THA FUCK!!

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StrawMan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:09 pm
poptart wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:12 pm
Diego wrote:After about 6 minutes of flight one could see the curvature of the Earf in plain sight. Well, most of us....
Link?
SpaceX's camera coverage blows away NASA's. Check out footage from today's launch, from the 39:00 mark to the 49:00 minute mark.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission ... p-flight-4

Deece camera work! Your thoughts?
It's a good show.


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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am I looked her up. 58 years old, looks like she's been doing speed tests without a wind screen. Would not want to see her in high G.
It's been bugging me... I KNEW I had seen her grille before. H.R. Pufnstuf's Witchypoo!
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StrawMan wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:25 am
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am I looked her up. 58 years old, looks like she's been doing speed tests without a wind screen. Would not want to see her in high G.
It's been bugging me... I KNEW I had seen her grille before. H.R. Pufnstuf's Witchypoo!
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The Boeing Starliner has had its return trip rescheduled 3 times now, each with BS explanations.

As usualm with NASA, we're not getting the whole story here.

https://blogs.nasa.gov/boeing-crew-flight-test/
NASA wrote:Teams from NASA and Boeing now are targeting no earlier than 10:10 p.m. EDT Tuesday, June 25, for the undocking of the Starliner spacecraft from the International Space Station. For the primary undocking opportunity, NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, the first crew to fly aboard Starliner, would land about 4:51 a.m. on Wednesday, June 26, at White Sands Space Harbor in New Mexico.

Mission teams supporting NASA’s Boeing Crew Flight Test continue to review Starliner’s data from the completed test objectives.

During a media teleconference on Tuesday, Steve Stich, manager of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, discussed the flight test and upcoming return plans. Stich was joined by Dana Weigel, manager of NASA’s International Space Station Program; Mike Lammers, flight director at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston; and Mark Nappi, vice president and manager of Boeing’s Commercial Crew Program. Listen to a full replay of the teleconference.

Following undocking and the deorbit burn, Starliner will descend under parachutes to land in the desert grounds of White Sands. Airbags attached to the bottom of Starliner will soften the spacecraft’s touchdown. The landing will mark the first time an American capsule has touched down on land with astronauts aboard. A team of NASA and Boeing specialists will retrieve the crew soon after landing.

Wilmore and Williams docked the Starliner spacecraft to the space station’s forward port on June 6 and have been testing spacecraft systems and performing tasks aboard the orbiting laboratory.
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am Would not want to see her in high G.
Gravity or G string
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StrawMan wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:25 am
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am I looked her up. 58 years old, looks like she's been doing speed tests without a wind screen. Would not want to see her in high G.
It's been bugging me... I KNEW I had seen her grille before. H.R. Pufnstuf's Witchypoo!
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NASA, Boeing delay Starliner astronaut landing again, to study helium leaks and thruster issues

Starliner had been scheduled to come home on June 26, but it will now stay aloft until at least July 2.
https://www.space.com/starliner-astrona ... -july-2024
Starliner was initially scheduled to spend about a week at the ISS on this shakeout cruise. But on June 9, NASA and Boeing announced that its departure had been pushed back to no earlier than June 18, to accommodate a planned June 13 NASA spacewalk at the ISS and to allow more time for Starliner checkouts.

Then, on Tuesday (June 18), the planned departure date shifted again, to June 26. The reasoning was similar: The extra time would allow a more detailed assessment of the helium leaks and RCS thruster issues.

Starliner will remain docked with the International Space Station (ISS) until at least July 2, roughly a week later than the previously stated target date of June 26.
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The repeated CFT extensions are not cause for alarm, Stich said, stressing that NASA still has confidence in Starliner.

"Starliner is performing well in orbit while docked to the space station," Stich said. "We are strategically using the extra time to clear a path for some critical station activities while completing readiness for Butch and Suni's return on Starliner and gaining valuable insight into the system upgrades we will want to make for post-certification missions."
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Meat Head wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:56 am
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 12:02 am Would not want to see her in high G.
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Things going not so well up in the space station...

Stranded, "The capsule and its two-person crew are still weeks away from returning to Earth." Those pesky thrusters are failing and they don't know why... "the thrusters are critical to properly align the spacecraft on its reentry path." "The resident astronauts are all ready sick and tired of the rookies bitching, and especially the lady with the big nose is consuming way too much O2." Said a spokesman. "If they don't behave, then to the exit hatch they go and you are going to see a couple of shooting stars . . .

#doom

https://www.ksl.com/article/51056338/st ... t-stranded

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Isn't it amazing the complete bullshit stories that NASA and Boeing have to make up from time to time to keep people believing their fraudulent story that the Earth is round and people fly rockets from Earth to orbit around it on a space station?
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We can wonder about this, but in the end, wondering about it does not prove the globe.



NASA, and its partners, have been showing us falsehoods and absurdities for decades.

This is supposedly a photo from the James Webb Space Telescope...

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This on the left is supposedly a picture of Pluto...

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This is supposedly a picture of the surface of one of the moons of a neighboring planet, I forget which one...

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This is supposedly another pic from space...

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Earth?

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They laff at us.
They mock us while we pay them well in excess of 50 million dollars a day.




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You wouldn’t change your mind even if you were on the ISS.
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Just guessing here, but I think the part that fell off Starliner on its 2nd trip to the launch pad was a window cover, not a window.

That doesn't mean there aren't serious gremlins delaying undocking, re-entry, and safe landing.
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50 Days After Launch to ISS, Boeing Starliner Astronauts Still Have No Landing Date

Starliner is rated to stay in space for up to 90 days as NASA and Boeing examine issues with helium propulsion and thrusters.

https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner- ... oubleshoot
Boeing's Starliner will do a "hot fire" test in orbit soon, as NASA and the company continue to probe the cause of thruster failures and a helium leak in space.

Starliner will conduct the test-fire of its 28-thruster reaction control system (RCS) on either Saturday (July 27) or Sunday (July 28) at the International Space Station (ISS), NASA and Boeing announced in a press conference today (July 25). Only 27 of the RCS thrusters will be used, however, as one previously was deemed unusable for the flight home.

Commands will be done from the ground, although NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams — the astronauts flying on Starliner's current mission, known as Crew Flight Test (CFT) — will likely join, due to their interest as former U.S. Navy test test pilots.
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StrawMan wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:24 pm Commands will be done from the ground, although NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams — the astronauts flying on Starliner's current mission, known as Crew Flight Test (CFT) — will likely join, due to their interest as former U.S. Navy test test pilots.
I admit I'm a bit lost among everyone's names and titles but aren't these two people STRANDED IN SPACE?

They're going to casually observe the tests because they're former test pilots and they're just naturally curious about HOW THEY GET HOME?

Nice propaganda, lol.

These two test monkeys are going to plaster their faces to a tiny triangle window and stress-eat freeze-dried ice cream while hoping 27... shit no... 26.... goddammit... make that 25 boosters are enough to land their Navy asses back on terra firma.
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Hell yes their asses are on the line. And wondering if that window cover was just dressing for the press, or if the craft will Burn Up without it.

Not looking good for them or Boeing.

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Perhaps this was covered in the space.com story (which I of course didn't read), but why can't they just send them home on a SpaceX Dragon capsule?
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Ok they are not as fucked as I thought.

"The problems have led to speculation that NASA might decide to return Wilmore and Williams to Earth in a SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft. There's one Crew Dragon currently docked at the station, and another one is slated to launch with a fresh crew next month. Steve Stich, manager of NASA's commercial crew program, said the agency has looked at backup plans to bring the Starliner crew home on a SpaceX capsule, but the main focus is still to have the astronauts fly home aboard Starliner."

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/n ... pacecraft/

So Boeing, who was at the same starting line as SpaceX in this race again for space, is so far behind and fucked up they will now rely on their main competition to save their literal asses. I wonder if that one lady up there is tired of picking her nose by now.

Bad marketing at best.
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Boeing wouldn’t sacrifice two astronauts rather than have them return to earth in their competition’s craft, would they?

Two dead whistleblowers say they might.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 1:16 am Perhaps this was covered in the space.com story (which I of course didn't read), but why can't they just send them home on a SpaceX Dragon capsule?
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