Brisket PET
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Brisket PET
So, I did a side by side brisket cook last weekend comparing the Weber Smokefire pellet to the Weber Summit Kamado. I used 2 prime packer briskets from Sams.
I tried to keep things as close as possible. B & B lump, with 2 chunks of cherry on the WSK.
After finally finding a deal, this was my first time using the Royal Oak Charcoal Pellets combined with Lumber Jack cherry... instead of my normal LJ Char-Hickory with cherry for brisket.
As suspected the Royal Oak is a great pellet, but the final results were no better or worse than the LJ.... for future use, I will use whichever has the better deal.
For the rub, I went with my tried and true Hardcore Carnivore Black.
This is my go to for almost every beef product I grill or smoke. So much so, I often times feel cheated if I have something that does not use it. Burgers, briskets, roasts, you name it. My absolute favorite beef rub, hands down.
I am pretty horrible at trimming... as the pics below show, but I did my hatchet job, rubbed, and placed in a bag for a couple of hours prior to starting.
Then placed on each smoker.
I put each on at 6pm Sunday evening. As a brisket vet on the Smokefire I know that 240 is my ideal temp for overnights. This however, was my first time smoking a brisket on the WSK.
I had on previously done one other overnight cook.... a pork butt, about a month ago. On that cook, I dialed the WSK in, in a matter of minutes and it ran perfectly, with very few adjustments for 15 hours.
This cook was not so smooth. It took about 2 hours to finally settle in at 250 and headed to bed a short time later. I checked at 2am to find the temp had fallen to 200. The meat was in the stall around 150 and 155 on both cookers. I gave the ash sweep a few good turns, sit it just a tad more open and opened the top damper a tad more also, and back to bed. At 430am, I got up. The WSK was now at 280, and meat temp was 195.
The brisket on the Smokefire was at 165.
I immediately pulled, wrapped in butcher paper and replaced back on the smokers. Sorry, no pics of any of this process, as I was barely awake.
I kept checking both every half hour or so after wrapping. The WSK brisket was the smaller of the 2. I finally pulled it at 210 degrees, but it never developed the perfect brisket jiggle that I am accustomed to. The Smokefire did at 205 as we typically see.
Upon opening and slicing, the WSK brisket was slightly over cooked by backyard standards. The Smokefire was nice, juicy and just what you look for. The bark however, was a little bit too thick on both. I would have scored the WSK a 6 and the Smokefire an 8 in KCBS competition overall.
Summit Kettle..
Smokefire
As this was just one test, its far from perfect. However... just a few thoughts....
The Smokefire is far and away so much easy and convenient to use. Its no wonder that pellet grills have become as popular as they are. Very easy, and with great results.
The WSK will become easier for me, after a few more uses. Practice makes perfect , as they say.
Overall, I call the contest a draw for me personally but my wife gave the edge to the Smokefire brisket. She liked the look, texture and taste the best from it.
I gave the advantage on taste alone to the WSK. I just prerfer that awesome taste of real charcoal and hardwoods and for me..... the taste is the most important factor.
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I tried to keep things as close as possible. B & B lump, with 2 chunks of cherry on the WSK.
After finally finding a deal, this was my first time using the Royal Oak Charcoal Pellets combined with Lumber Jack cherry... instead of my normal LJ Char-Hickory with cherry for brisket.
As suspected the Royal Oak is a great pellet, but the final results were no better or worse than the LJ.... for future use, I will use whichever has the better deal.
For the rub, I went with my tried and true Hardcore Carnivore Black.
This is my go to for almost every beef product I grill or smoke. So much so, I often times feel cheated if I have something that does not use it. Burgers, briskets, roasts, you name it. My absolute favorite beef rub, hands down.
I am pretty horrible at trimming... as the pics below show, but I did my hatchet job, rubbed, and placed in a bag for a couple of hours prior to starting.
Then placed on each smoker.
I put each on at 6pm Sunday evening. As a brisket vet on the Smokefire I know that 240 is my ideal temp for overnights. This however, was my first time smoking a brisket on the WSK.
I had on previously done one other overnight cook.... a pork butt, about a month ago. On that cook, I dialed the WSK in, in a matter of minutes and it ran perfectly, with very few adjustments for 15 hours.
This cook was not so smooth. It took about 2 hours to finally settle in at 250 and headed to bed a short time later. I checked at 2am to find the temp had fallen to 200. The meat was in the stall around 150 and 155 on both cookers. I gave the ash sweep a few good turns, sit it just a tad more open and opened the top damper a tad more also, and back to bed. At 430am, I got up. The WSK was now at 280, and meat temp was 195.
The brisket on the Smokefire was at 165.
I immediately pulled, wrapped in butcher paper and replaced back on the smokers. Sorry, no pics of any of this process, as I was barely awake.
I kept checking both every half hour or so after wrapping. The WSK brisket was the smaller of the 2. I finally pulled it at 210 degrees, but it never developed the perfect brisket jiggle that I am accustomed to. The Smokefire did at 205 as we typically see.
Upon opening and slicing, the WSK brisket was slightly over cooked by backyard standards. The Smokefire was nice, juicy and just what you look for. The bark however, was a little bit too thick on both. I would have scored the WSK a 6 and the Smokefire an 8 in KCBS competition overall.
Summit Kettle..
Smokefire
As this was just one test, its far from perfect. However... just a few thoughts....
The Smokefire is far and away so much easy and convenient to use. Its no wonder that pellet grills have become as popular as they are. Very easy, and with great results.
The WSK will become easier for me, after a few more uses. Practice makes perfect , as they say.
Overall, I call the contest a draw for me personally but my wife gave the edge to the Smokefire brisket. She liked the look, texture and taste the best from it.
I gave the advantage on taste alone to the WSK. I just prerfer that awesome taste of real charcoal and hardwoods and for me..... the taste is the most important factor.
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Re: Brisket PET
I've had to go back and read this a few more times again.
This is some great stuff here.
I've been doing fine with my relatively new gas grill, but it doesn't compare to this.
Feel free to post cooking PETs at any time, regardless of what you're cooking or what you're cooking it on. Rack it again.
This is some great stuff here.
I've been doing fine with my relatively new gas grill, but it doesn't compare to this.
Feel free to post cooking PETs at any time, regardless of what you're cooking or what you're cooking it on. Rack it again.
Re: Brisket PET
Still don't know what PET stands for, but this is a good one. From one 'cue hound to another, great info, Dave.
Photo Essay Topic? Pictures of Endless Trauma? Photo Essay Thread?
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Re: Brisket PET
You’re close. Photo Essay Thread.
And RACKS are definitely called for here. I’m thinking about finally breaking down and getting a pellet smoker. My offset smoker works OK but requires almost constant attention to keep the temperature where I want it. A big pain in the ass for long cooks like ribs, brisket or pork shoulder. I tend to get too drunk sitting around and watching it.
Dave, any thoughts on the Webber vs Trager? I’m sort of partial to Webber just because of the name, and I’ve had very good quality gas and charcoal Webers. Wondering if there’s any big difference in functionality and/or quality.
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You're close too!
Photo Essay Thread.
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Re: Brisket PET
Thanks for setting us straight on that.
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LOL. That goes waaayyyy back.
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It is difficult for me to give an unbiased opinion as I am die-hard Weber.
However, Traeger has sold millions of grills, so who the hell am I to say
anything bad.
The biggest complaint I have always heard about them was the limited
high temp for grilling. It used to be around 450. I believe most of them
will reach 500 now, where the Weber Smokefire and the new Weber Searwood
will reach 600.
None of this would matter to me personally, as I only use mine for smoking.
I have no reason to exceed 300 degrees. I have a slew of other grills that
I can use for grilling.
Reqteq makes the Bullseye pellet grill that will reach 750 if you really want
to grill with pellets.
https://www.amazon.com/recteq-RT-B380-B ... rce=1&th=1
I bought one a few years back. I was not a fan of the stand, so I mounted
it onto an older Weber Performer frame. I call it the Webteq.
I have grilled with it a few times, but it pretty much is used as a pizza oven.
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Ditto.Biggie wrote:It’s actually Photo Essay Thread.
And this is a great one. Nice work Davey boy.
Rack dave!
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Re: Brisket PET
This PET is quelle raqueable. I love brisket. I've had some hit and miss attempts at making it. I love dave's knowledge of different cookers and shit. He has forgotten more about Weber than I'll ever care to know.