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StrawMan wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:49 pm
poptart wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:28 pm You do realize these are all images, and not photos, right?

Or maybe you don't realize that.
I dunno.
Maybe I don't understand the difference. Please explain the distinction between the two as you understand it.

In the mean time I'll continue to believe that, by definition, those are photos since they were taken by cameras.
NASA openly declares that they are showing us images, not photos.

For example...


Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Explorer 1

The images collected here...

https://explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov/gallerie ... rom-space/


NASA Image and Video Library
Search for NASA images

https://images.nasa.gov/




What is the difference between an image and a photo?

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000169.htm

Image - Any visual object modified or altered by a computer or an imaginary object created using a computer.
Photo or photograph - Anything taken by a camera, digital camera, or photocopier.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 2:57 pm
StrawMan wrote:If all the surface water on Earth would be cast skyward, so would everything else that isn't nailed down. YOU and I would be cast off the surface as well. All your furniture would be on your ceiling. We'd finally have flying cars. Birds would have to build their nests upside down in order to keep their eggs from flying out. Wild animals would be floating off into space. Livestock would be cast off into the ether.
Welcome to flat earth!
Not so fast... you're discounting the greatest physical force in the universe [and my 6th grade Physical Science teacher, Mr. Lease lol].

Are you a swimmer? Do you feel the same pressure in your eyes and ears and on your body at the surface vs swimming in deeper water?

Why do ALL submarines have a "crush depth"?

A: Gravity. Gravity explains the examples I've used. Humans and all entities in God's Universe experience gravity, even flat earthers.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 3:01 pm
StrawMan wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:49 pm
poptart wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:28 pm You do realize these are all images, and not photos, right?

Or maybe you don't realize that.
I dunno.
Maybe I don't understand the difference. Please explain the distinction between the two as you understand it.

In the mean time I'll continue to believe that, by definition, those are photos since they were taken by cameras.


NASA openly declares that they are showing us images, not photos.

For example...


Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Explorer 1

The images collected here...

https://explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov/gallerie ... rom-space/


NASA Image and Video Library
Search for NASA images

https://images.nasa.gov/




What is the difference between an image and a photo?

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000169.htm

Image - Any visual object modified or altered by a computer or an imaginary object created using a computer.
Photo or photograph - Anything taken by a camera, digital camera, or photocopier.
I'll check your links, but you seem to be claiming that ALL photos of Earth taken from the Moon are CGI or imaginary? Please. Yes, we experience them as reproduced images on our screens, but that does not render them irrelevant, phony, or computer generated.

By its very definition, this photograph was taken by Apollo 8 astronaut Bill Anders, using a Hasselblad film camera:
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Closer to Earth, here are a couple links re a Russian cargo ship recently undocking from the ISS and burning up in Earth's atmosphere [due to gravity and decreased centripetal force]. The articles are worth reading, but please at least take note of the photographs in the articles, taken with cameras. Is the ISS a fantasy? Why would the Russians 'play along' with the U.S. in this grand conspiracy, as you see it?

https://www.space.com/russia-progress-8 ... ture-photo

https://www.space.com/international-spa ... try-photos

Sorry if I'm asking you to go through all this again for the umpteenth time. I wasn't around for 20 years, so I have only seen your Flat Earth comments for a few months.

I thank you and Mr. Lease thanks you!
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Roux wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 2:06 am
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 12:31 am I'm pretty sure BatTart would settle for an unedited, nonstop video of a rocket leaving earth and docking with the ISS. Surely that's cheaper than this Antarctic expedition.
There are hundreds if not thousands of videos from space, and our friend thinks all of them are fake. He doesn't believe that Neil Armstrong and others walked on the moon.

No doubt he would likewise dismiss the video you describe.

He probably would find it more difficult to dismiss his own eyes.
tart and I argued these topics at .net for years. Pops has always been a great sounding board for some of these issues and I appreciate his demeanor during these threads which always turn into multi-page rehashings of the same terrain. Surprisingly, I've come his direction on several topics, but not on flat earth. I believe we live on a spinning globe. I believe circular motion is a common concept in the universe as measured by observable metrics. It is not strange to think the earth follows the same patterns observed in other areas of the universe.

I believe humans have escaped earth's orbit. Hubble and James Webb telescopes exist off-planet and take actual photos of deep space objects. That's real, that is happening in real time.

I do NOT believe the Apollo space missions landed on the moon. Not at all. Not even a little bit. I came to this conclusion kicking and screaming but the evidence for a faked moon landing is overwhelming and I cannot ignore it. Right thinking people in this forum, please evaluate the evidence at hand and realize NASA sold you a story.
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StrawMan wrote:A: Gravity. Gravity explains the examples I've used. Humans and all entities in God's Universe experience gravity, even flat earthers.
Well, I should have known the gravity god would make an appearance.

When you get right down to the nuts & blots, you are telling me that the earth is a globe, and water is clinging to the outside of this spinning ball because of gravity.
JUST BELIEVE IT, poptart!

No link to an experiment to show me how this fantastical thing can occur, but I'm just supposed to believe it because that's what I am being told, and because... don't forget about gravity.
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StrawMan, that earth pic you posted was not taken from the surface of the moon.
It was supposedly taken by an astronaut who was orbiting the moon, and it is the ONLY picture of the earth NASA has that they claim is a real live photo.
All other such NASA pics you ever see of earth are said, by NASA, to be images, or "composites." Mostly images, is what they say.

Regarding the two links you posted, the 2nd one adds nothing of value to our discussion.
Just some pics of lights streaming in the sky.

The first link you posted has this headline and pic...

Robotic Russian cargo ship leaves the ISS, burns up in Earth's atmosphere (photo)

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Then at the bottom of the pic, it says this...


Russia's robotic Progress 86 freighter departs the International Space Station on May 28, 2024. (Image credit: Roscosmos)


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StrawMan wrote:Is the ISS a fantasy? Why would the Russians 'play along' with the U.S. in this grand conspiracy, as you see it?
Yes, the ISS is impossible, and it is a "fantasy," imo.
As I posted about on the previous page of this thread.

Why do Russia and the U.S. play along?

Long story short, the world we live in is not a globe. We all have been lied to, and the globe is continually reinforced to us, day-after-day-after-day... for our whole life. People just take it for granted,and never think to question it.
The geopolitical realm is also something we have been lied to about.
There is a global elite, a very exclusive world "club," and we ain't in it.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm StrawMan, that earth pic you posted was not taken from the surface of the moon.
It was supposedly taken by an astronaut who was orbiting the moon, and it is the ONLY picture of the earth NASA has that they claim is a real live photo.
All other such NASA pics you ever see of earth are said, by NASA, to be images, or "composites." Mostly images, is what they say.

Regarding the two links you posted, the 2nd one adds nothing of value to our discussion.
Just some pics of lights streaming in the sky.

The first link you posted has this headline and pic...

Robotic Russian cargo ship leaves the ISS, burns up in Earth's atmosphere (photo)

Image

Then at the bottom of the pic, it says this...


Russia's robotic Progress 86 freighter departs the International Space Station on May 28, 2024. (Image credit: Roscosmos)


Image credit


StrawMan wrote:Is the ISS a fantasy? Why would the Russians 'play along' with the U.S. in this grand conspiracy, as you see it?
Yes, the ISS is impossible, and it is a "fantasy," imo.
As I posted about on the previous page of this thread.

Why do Russia and the U.S. play along?

Long story short, the world we live in is not a globe. We all have been lied to, and the globe is continually reinforced to us, day-after-day-after-day... for our whole life. People just take it for granted,and never think to question it.
The geopolitical realm is also something we have been lied to about.
There is a global elite, a very exclusive world "club," and we ain't in it.
I know I'm gonna get called "batshit" crazy for this, BUT that photo looks exactly like an image from George Lucas's 1977 masterpiece "Star Wars"
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 3:01 pm Image - Any visual object modified or altered by a computer or an imaginary object created using a computer.


Image

This is not a photo of a woman holding a football



Image

This is not a photo of a waterfall.



Image

This is not a photo of earth.


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Speaking of the fake moon landings (HPG), and photos (StrawMan), I highly recommend this video, which I posted and commented on in here 3 years ago.

NASA moon-landing astronauts produced a VOLUMINOUS collection of photos from their supposed time on the moon.

And what they produced is simply -----> IMPOSSIBLE.

You should watch the whole video, but to watch just the part I am talking about here, watch from 19:55 to 23:45.








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Well, Roux...

NASA needs to *FIRE* its image-maker.

North America appears to have grown some.



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Have you made your application to go to Antarctica yet?

When finally you see proof with your own eyes, how will you cling to your willful ignorance? It was the Devil who put that image in your eyes?
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:28 pm Speaking of the fake moon landings (HPG), and photos (StrawMan), I highly recommend this video, which I posted and commented on in here 3 years ago.

NASA moon-landing astronauts produced a VOLUMINOUS collection of photos from their supposed time on the moon.

And what they produced is simply -----> IMPOSSIBLE.

You should watch the whole video, but to watch just the part I am talking about here, watch from 19:55 to 23:45.








#impossible
My favorite NASA theatre might be the lunar lander's alleged launch off the moon's surface to dock with the lunar orbiter. The surface of the moon is so dusty, in 1/6th G our astronauts are leaving deep footprints. The only way that happens is if the moon's surface is covered in very fine dust. So the lander fires a big fat rocket to escape moon gravity and kicks up...ZERO moon dust. None. A camera on the surface films the whole thing and there is not a single speck of moon dust. How is that possible? ...it isn't.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 3:01 pm
StrawMan wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 12:49 pm
poptart wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:28 pm You do realize these are all images, and not photos, right?

Or maybe you don't realize that.
I dunno.
Maybe I don't understand the difference. Please explain the distinction between the two as you understand it.

In the mean time I'll continue to believe that, by definition, those are photos since they were taken by cameras.
NASA openly declares that they are showing us images, not photos.

For example...


Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Explorer 1

The images collected here...

https://explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov/gallerie ... rom-space/


NASA Image and Video Library
Search for NASA images

https://images.nasa.gov/




What is the difference between an image and a photo?

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000169.htm

Image - Any visual object modified or altered by a computer or an imaginary object created using a computer.
Photo or photograph - Anything taken by a camera, digital camera, or photocopier.


Strange that a governmental agency involved in international/historical fraud, propaganda and conspiracy would concern itself with distinguishing image/photo for reasons of integrity.
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https://www.space.com/6997-photos-revea ... -site.html

Photo of the Apollo 11 landing site, taken by a camera on the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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The item marked "LRRR" is the Laser Ranging Retroreflector, which is STILL IN USE TODAY, 55 years later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Ran ... oreflector



https://www.space.com/12835-nasa-apollo ... s-lro.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nasa-apo ... o_n_950663

Photos of the Apollo 17 landing site, taken by a camera on the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
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Image

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BTW, these folks have scienced the shit out of the Apollo 17 photos. It's a mind-numbing read and most of it is over my head, but if you want scientific knowledge on the subject, here it is. At least read the abstract:
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com ... 18EA000408


Softball Bat and HPG -- Since you've both hashed and re-hashed these points over the years, it seems your heels are dug in on these subjects and I'm only bringing up points you've already seen over and over. Ponderous, I know. SB, hanging onto elementary semantics games [photos vs images] is pretty weak science, IMO. But it's obvious you're not going to suspend disbelief long enough for anything I and others have posted to sink in and change your mind. I do respect how you represent, though. You're one of the best posters on T1B, but it's obvious we'll never make progress on this topic. I'll be glad to watch the video you linked re the moon landings and get back to you. HPG, I'd appreciate it if you could provide links, etc. that support your conclusion that the moon landings were faked. I'm more than willing to suspend my disbelief and take time to consider your proof.
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As expected, StrawMan, I come in to scoff at what you have posted.

AGU, who produced the report you have posted about, is, for all practical purposes, a wing of NASA.

https://appliedsciences.nasa.gov/sites/ ... rwalls.pdf

https://www.agu.org/


What we have here are alleged images of the surface of the moon, taken by the LRO.

In the images, we see spots and "anomalies."

AGU, essentially a wing of NASA, tells us that they have done extensive study of these images and can show us all that what is seen in these images (small blotches and "anamolies) is the "trash" that was left behind on the moon by American moon missions.

The only part that really resonates with me is the idea that an American would leave his trash behind. :smile:

I just do not buy it, sorry.

For dozens of reasons, I do not buy it.

And if someone watches Taboo Conspiracy's video that I posted above, they will know where I am coming from.


This...



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did not land on the moon.
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 7:28 pm Speaking of the fake moon landings (HPG), and photos (StrawMan), I highly recommend this video, which I posted and commented on in here 3 years ago.

NASA moon-landing astronauts produced a VOLUMINOUS collection of photos from their supposed time on the moon.

And what they produced is simply -----> IMPOSSIBLE.

You should watch the whole video, but to watch just the part I am talking about here, watch from 19:55 to 23:45.








#impossible
I've watched your entire video twice now [even put it up on the big screen], and just went back to the section you mentioned above.

Simple answer: The astronauts could, in fact, look down at the viewfinder on their suit-mounted cameras. The Hasselblad cameras that the astronauts used on the moon were set up with three presets; 6 meters, 10 meters, and 50 meters. All they had to do was select one of the three based on their distance from the object they were photographing. The Hasselblads were also capable of 'burst' photography,, which accounts for the 'impossible' number of photos taken. Shitloads of unsat photos hit the cutting room floor. To coin an overused phrase, 'you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts'..

I'll try to get back to you later today or tomorrow with a few addl comments, but it seems to me that the burden of proof rests with you and HPG.

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StrawMan wrote:Simple answer: The astronauts could, in fact, look down at the viewfinder on their suit-mounted cameras. The Hasselblad cameras that the astronauts used on the moon were set up with three presets; 6 meters, 10 meters, and 50 meters. All they had to do was select one of the three based on their distance from the object they were photographing. The Hasselblads were also capable of 'burst' photography,, which accounts for the 'impossible' number of photos taken. Shitloads of unsat photos hit the cutting room floor. To coin an overused phrase, 'you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts'..
Where did you get these... facts?
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StrawMan wrote:it seems to me that the burden of proof rests with you and HPG.
We are not the ones making the claim.
We are examining the claim.

The exact claim here is that NASA put two men on the moon in 1969.
Armstrong spent a bit more than 2 hours walking on the moon. Aldrin spent a little less than 2 hours walking on the moon.
With 1969 camera tech, in bulky space suits with bulky glove, and with cameras mounted on their chests, they took mostly studio grade quality photos at the rate of 1 photo for every 15 second they were on the moon.

Is there a place where the camera they used can be seen?
And can it be demonstrated that using that camera, such a thing could be possible?

If you and another person, StrawMan, went to the Grand Canyon (no space suit, no bulky gloves, no camera on your chest), and walked around there for 2 hours, using 2024 camera technology, do you think you would snap off 1407 photos?
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China probe successfully lands on far side of Moon


Or did it? Poptart, your thoughts?
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It's on Yahoo News, so it must be true.


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C'mon man.

Did this happen? Or is this part of the Grand Conspiracy?
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There is no uncut video of a rocket going all the way to space, let alone up to the friggin' moon.
lol

So no, Chinese bullsheet.


Why do they lie?

I assume the primary motive is money, but there could be some other things.

I posted this in the "This is not a flat earth" thread...







The Chinese are shown doing something on their space station that NASA's Don Pettit (who allegedly spent over a year on the ISS) says is impossible.

What's up with that?

Please comment.
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So China is claiming a moon landing, but it didn't happen.

And NASA and the rest of the scientific world knows that it didn't happen, but is going along with it because reasons?
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Because, imo, the geopolitical realm that most everyone assumes to be true, is not the real truth.

Do you want to comment on Don Pettit and the Chinese Space Station silliness?


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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:06 pm I do NOT believe the Apollo space missions landed on the moon. Not at all. Not even a little bit. I came to this conclusion kicking and screaming but the evidence for a faked moon landing is overwhelming and I cannot ignore it. Right thinking people in this forum, please evaluate the evidence at hand and realize NASA sold you a story.
Normally arguing against would seem child's play...but considering how much shit doesn't work anymore here on Earth and the moon landing was FIFTY FIVE YEARS AGO....doubt is reasonable.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:45 pm As expected, StrawMan, I come in to scoff at what you have posted.

This...

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did not land on the moon.
Have a look when you have time.

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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:06 pm
I do NOT believe the Apollo space missions landed on the moon. Not at all. Not even a little bit. I came to this conclusion kicking and screaming but the evidence for a faked moon landing is overwhelming and I cannot ignore it. Right thinking people in this forum, please evaluate the evidence at hand and realize NASA sold you a story.
Worth a watch:

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StrawMan wrote:Worth a watch:
I watched it.

3.16 million subscribers, and music playing int he background throughout his presentation told me this was propaganda.

But I gave it a view, and sat up in my seat at 29:00, when he said he was going to reveal his TRUMP CARD, that PROVES the moon landings to be true.

His TRUMP CARD is that there is actually footage of a rocket going all the way, uncut, from earth to the moon??

I hoped.

But no.

He went on to explain that his TRUMP CARD, his PROOF that man went to the moon six times, is that there are videos of moon buggy dust being kicked up in a way that could only have happened if indeed the buggy was moving on the surface of the moon.

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Okay.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:32 am
StrawMan wrote:Worth a watch:
I watched it.

3.16 million subscribers, and music playing int he background throughout his presentation told me this was propaganda.

But I gave it a view, and sat up in my seat at 29:00, when he said he was going to reveal his TRUMP CARD, that PROVES the moon landings to be true.

His TRUMP CARD is that there is actually footage of a rocket going all the way, uncut, from earth to the moon??

I hoped.

But no.

He went on to explain that his TRUMP CARD, his PROOF that man went to the moon six times, is that there are videos of moon buggy dust being kicked up in a way that could only have happened if indeed the buggy was moving on the surface of the moon.

lol



Okay.
Enjoy your victory, fella.
So much... cope.

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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:06 pm I do NOT believe the Apollo space missions landed on the moon. Not at all. Not even a little bit. I came to this conclusion kicking and screaming but the evidence for a faked moon landing is overwhelming and I cannot ignore it. Right thinking people in this forum, please evaluate the evidence at hand and realize NASA sold you a story.
Methinks you might have been out in the sun too long. What “evidence” compels you to disregard the veritable mountain range of evidence that Apollo astronauts landed on the Moon?
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Softball Bat wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm
Long story short, the world we live in is not a globe. We all have been lied to,
Why? What is the motivation for this "conspiracy"? What purpose does it serve?

The Greeks mathematically proved that the Earth is (roughly) spherical 2,500 years ago. Magellan physically confirmed it 500 years ago when his expedition circumnavigated the globe.

You're pissing in the wind. By the way, wind is bonus clue.
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mvscal wrote:The Greeks mathematically proved that the Earth is (roughly) spherical 2,500 years ago.
Did they?

Fascinating.

Post their proof that the earth is a sphere.


Man has supposedly been going to space for 60+ years.
There is still no uncut video of a rocket going from earth to space.


It is not incumbent on me to provide the certain motivation for a crime that has been committed. I just notice that a crime has been committed.
The curvature for your globe is simply -----> not present.

If you want to come in here and make the fantastical claim that water is clinging to the outside of a flying, spinning ball, then show us the science experiment that backs this up.


I have given my answer to the "Why do they like to us?" question many times.

Short answer, and this is just my opinion...

In the middle of, and toward the latter half of, last century, rockets were able to go up to an extent by which it became possible to verify the shape and nature of our earth.
It was found that the earth is "flat," stationary, and enclosed by a firmament.

Then those who were in command, those in charge of these efforts, had a decision to make.

The prevailing view at this time was that the earth is a globe, so the powers-that-be chose to lie to the public and tell everyone that yes, the earth is a globe, and we are going to space, we are going to the moon, etc.

Why did they choose to lie?

"Science," or "atheism" had culturally, in the Western world, gained the upper hand over "theism," going back many decades before rockets started going up.

To admit that the Bible is correct -- that the earth is indeed flat, stationary, and enclosed, would be a HUGE victory for theism.
It is very hard to deny a Creator when the earth is flat, stationary, and enclosed.

Those who were in charge of, or deeply involved with, sending rockets up were firmly in the "atheism" camp.
They were not going to turn society back over to the thumpers, and especially when it would now abundantly clear that the cosmology presented in the Bible is accurate.

So, they lied.
And they doubled, tripled, quadrupled, down on the ruse.

Build up a space organization.
Fund us," they say. "We are doing great things for human advancement!"
We send NASA over 50 million dollars a day in 2024.
"We're going to the moon..."
"We're going to Mars..."
"We're going... everywhere..."

And NASA is a lying propaganda vehicle that the people are forced to fund.

The lies of NASA have been well documented by me over the years.

NASA is a joke.


So, the motivation is, in my estimation, money, power, and to keep God hidden.
Victory for the atheists.
Those who believe what the Bible says are idiots. Not to be taken seriously.
Keep the thumpers down and marginalized.
Etc.

So it goes.
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Softball Bat wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:53 pm now abundantly clear that the cosmology presented in the Bible is accurate.

Then you should have no problem sharing a functional map of a flat earth. Let's check it out.
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Poptard, if I believed in a God, I’d pray for you. You need help.
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StrawMan wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:00 pmBy its very definition, this photograph was taken by Apollo 8 astronaut Bill Anders, using a Hasselblad film camera:
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Taken Christmas Eve, 1968.

Bill Anders

We are now approaching lunar sunrise, and for all the people back on Earth, the crew of Apollo 8 has a message that we would like to send to you.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.[6]

Jim Lovell
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.[6]

Frank Borman
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas – and God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth.[6]

Original orientation of that series of photos errr images.

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PS: Bill Anders died in a plane crash just yesterday.
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Roux wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:24 pm
poptart wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:53 pm now abundantly clear that the cosmology presented in the Bible is accurate.

Then you should have no problem sharing a functional map of a flat earth. Let's check it out.
Why do you take my words out of context?

I plainly said it is MY OPINION that those firing rockets up found that the earth is flat, stationary, and enclosed.
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I'm not talking about NASA. This is what I'd like to focus on:
Softball Bat wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:53 pmnow abundantly clear that the cosmology presented in the Bible is accurate.
Can you please share a map of this accurate Biblical cosmology?
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As I posted, it is MY OPINION that those firing rockets up were able to verify the nature of the world we live in.

And I said this...
poptart wrote:They (the rocket shooters and those in charge) were not going to turn society back over to the thumpers, and especially when it would (was) now abundantly clear that the cosmology presented in the Bible is accurate.
Yes, I believe they verified that what is told to us in the Bible is accurate.
The earth is flat, stationary, enclosed, and the sun, moon, and stars are moving in a circuit around us -- just as we experience every day.

If you want a true map of the earth, why are you asking poptart on the interweb?

Do you think I have tools to produce an accurate map for you?
lol

Email NASA and tell them you know they are full of sh!t.
Tell them to send you a true m@p of the earth, because they have the necessary tools to do that.
Let me know what they say.

If you want to understand Biblical cosmology, Google it and look at the images.
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I do not expect you to draw the map yourself. But if it is abundantly clear, then surely someone has an accurate map.

You're not the only one who knows The Truth, are you?
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