America is under assault by a cancerous mind virus the founders warned against

[Roux]

For the most part, our Founders were diests, not Christian.

Jefferson went to far as to literally cut out of the Bible all of the supernatural bullshit. No virgin birth, no miracle healings, no talking snakes, no dead people coming back to life.

Such myths simply do not belong in public schools or in public policy.

[ppanther]

First of all, ppanther, post more and read less. Glad to see you.

I recognize the problems you cite, but I suggest that their solution is not putting religion in public schools.

My guess - and it is only a guess, I am not an expert - is that poverty is a significant contributing factor to the problems you cite. A stronger middle class would help so many, and even would help the ultra-wealthy. If I were king for a day, I'd establish a massive modernization of our nation's infrastructure. In addition to improving water systems, roads, etc, it would create many jobs and with that, middle class wealth. Certainly "trickle down" has not worked. If anything, we should aim for trickle up. I'm not worried about the ultra-wealthy, they'll still be in the 0.02% in any system.

There are definitely more problems in areas with higher poverty rates, but I can't claim to know anything about them. I live in a solidly middle-class neighborhood, and most of the people I know with kids in public school are living in similar areas. The indoctrination of ideology is intense at ALL of our public schools. You have no idea how awkward I felt the first time I hung out with a few of the moms from my church (so, not just secular people suffer from this problem). There was a long conversation about the medications each of their children were taking. Mine take... none. I actually felt so uncomfortable talking about who's taking what, I said literally nothing for at least an hour, and no one even noticed.

I have very middle class friends who have kids who self-harm, who are confused about their genders, who say things like "I think I like boys right now, but my teacher said that could change, so I don't know what I'll like in the future." These are normal, everyday middle-class people doing the best for their families, and their kids are now in counseling to overcome urges to hurt themselves. Kids who drink the kool-aid are relentlessly awful to kids who don't. This is not a problem caused by poverty, it is caused by ideology. Kids just want to fit in, do well, and be liked. They believe what they are told. They are told very confusing things, and guess what? They are confused.

The irony is, you think keeping Christianity out of schools (or keeping taxpayer money from paying for any schools that happen to teach anything Christian whatsoever) is a GOOD thing, but you don't seem to mind the ideologies they ARE teaching. They are far more damaging than most other religions. This is really happening.

I'd say it's why we chose to homeschool in the first place, but it's not. However, it's a really nice bonus that my kids haven't had to deal with that on a daily basis. They are exposed to it, because their friends are exposed to it. But they can see it from the outside, and I am SO thankful for that.

[ppanther]

For the most part, our Founders were diests, not Christian.

Jefferson went to far as to literally cut out of the Bible all of the supernatural bullshit. No virgin birth, no miracle healings, no talking snakes, no dead people coming back to life.

Such myths simply do not belong in public schools or in public policy.

But the myth of being born in the wrong body is sacrosanct?

[Sudden Sam]

Glad to see ppanther posting. Never really knew her in the old days, but glad she’s back.

Poverty is no excuse for the behavior of so many kids in public schools. I went to school with poor kids. Hell, I was poor! And no one…no one at all…acted like kids today do. Lack of parenting is the problem. Lack of respect for the administrators and teachers means nothing gets taught. It’s a constant war. Good teachers have been leaving systems for years.

I know at least 15 great elementary school teachers who have quit. It’s not worth risking your life. ppanther obviously loves her kids and wants them to get a quality education. Home schooling is the way to go.

The US education system is broken beyond repair.

[Screw_Michigan]

ppanther is very well aware that a youngster cannot be properly educated without an acknowledgment of God, and of God's Word.

So, kudos to her.


See Deuteronomy 6:4-9


Western civilization was built on acknowledgement of God.
The ---> I AM <--- God.

This is long gone from public schools in Amerika.

ppanther asks (and she already knows the answer) why public school are turning out kids who are so fugged up.

There's your answer.

You don't like it?

It's still your answer.



Every knee will bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Look like Dump and his criminal syndicate cronies are doing to our constitutional republic in the name of "God." You want them doing that to kids in public schools? No thanks.

[mvscal]

the main premise of our country’s founders, i.e. religion has no place in our government.

Not correct. Please check your work and try again.

The Establishment Clause would like to have a word with you, dumbshit.

Holy Shit. You are a complete dumbfuck. The purpose of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion which would threaten the established religions in the states. Nine of the thirteen states had officially established religions.

[ppanther]

Look like Dump and his criminal syndicate cronies are doing to our constitutional republic in the name of "God." You want them doing that to kids in public schools? No thanks.

Do you have kids?
Do you know what IS being taught in schools?

[Roux]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

[Sudden Sam]

Public schools should be 100% free of any religious teachings.

There should also NEVER be any mention of sexuality in grades K-6. Kids don’t need the opinions of people who are supposed to teach them math, science, and English.

[JPGettysburg]

For the most part, our Founders were diests, not Christian.

Jefferson went to far as to literally cut out of the Bible all of the supernatural bullshit. No virgin birth, no miracle healings, no talking snakes, no dead people coming back to life.

Such myths simply do not belong in public schools or in public policy.

But the myth of a boy being a girl and a girl being.a boy, belongs in schools?
Biological males showering and changing with biological women and girls belongs in gym class?

GTFOH

[ppanther]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

We are not going to agree on this one, so save your links. Whether or not there is a small percentage of human beings who have a mental illness that makes them feel like they are in the wrong body, the VAST majority of kids who believe this about themselves have been trained to believe it. It is 100% a manufactured social contagion. And the idea of treating a mental disorder with bodily mutilation is just barbaric.

But if MSN tells you it's compassion, well... I guess it's up to you to believe it or not.

[JPGettysburg]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

Try again.

There are a growing number of psychologists and medical experts who COMPLETELY DEBUNK everything you just posted.

CASE IN POINT,
The complete BANNING of drugs used for transgender children in Europe.

Do you understand that fact?

[Sudden Sam]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

We are not going to agree on this one, so save your links. Whether or not there is a small percentage of human beings who have a mental illness that makes them feel like they are in the wrong body, the VAST majority of kids who believe this about themselves have been trained to believe it. It is 100% a manufactured social contagion. And the idea of treating a mental disorder with bodily mutilation is just barbaric.

But if MSN tells you it's compassion, well... I guess it's up to you to believe it or not.

Rack panther.

Thank you, p.

[JPGettysburg]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

We are not going to agree on this one, so save your links. Whether or not there is a small percentage of human beings who have a mental illness that makes them feel like they are in the wrong body, the VAST majority of kids who believe this about themselves have been trained to believe it. It is 100% a manufactured social contagion. And the idea of treating a mental disorder with bodily mutilation is just barbaric.

But if MSN tells you it's compassion, well... I guess it's up to you to believe it or not.

Add to that the fact that Europe completely BANNED the drugs being given to minors by the SAME left-wing psychologists Roux just linked you to.

[JPGettysburg]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

Europe just BANNED the drugs given to these minors by the corrupt psychologists you just linked up

This is going badly for you.

[ppanther]

the myth of being born in the wrong body

If you had met such people, then you would understand that it is not a myth.

Until then, you can rely upon the actual medical experts at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and many others.

Europe just BANNED the drugs given to these minors by the corrupt psychologists you just linked up

This is going badly for you.

This is pretty important.
I get that everyone who has an opinion... well, MOST of the people who have opinions about this have good intentions. I don't think Roux wants to hurt children. I think he believes that what Big Pharma wants to sell about gender theory is what is best for the kids who are their victims. I do NOT agree, and have yet to hear an argument in favor of "gender care" that makes even the slightest bit of sense. Any time the subject is raised, the mind virus takes over.

[Softball Bat]

Not correct. Please check your work and try again.

The Establishment Clause would like to have a word with you, dumbshit.

Holy Shit. You are a complete dumbfuck. The purpose of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion which would threaten the established religions in the states. Nine of the thirteen states had officially established religions.

Yep.

[JPGettysburg]

The Establishment Clause would like to have a word with you, dumbshit.

Holy Shit. You are a complete dumbfuck. The purpose of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion which would threaten the established religions in the states. Nine of the thirteen states had officially established religions.

Yep.

You completely glossed over my VERY important take.
There's lots of "religions" nowadays.
This whole 57 gender BS qualifies as "faith based"

Mandating biological males showering and changing with biological women and girls, is "faith based pretend time"

The LAST eight years of president trump being called a fascist dictator and buddies with Russia, IS "faith based"

The MAIN POINT, that must be underscored, is that for decades now, our secular government schools have been in a vicious downward spiral.
And this is due to leftist control.

[Roux]

ppanther, gay people exist, right? Some people are born with an attraction to the same sex, right? There are hundreds if not thousands of animal species where homosexuality is documented. You're with me so far, I think.

Well, just as gay people exist, so do transgenders. That is how they were born, or if you think in these terms, that is how God made them.

I only know one, someone who was born with female parts but mentally he is male. Honestly, for the first several years that I knew him, I just thought he was a gay male due to his effeminate appearance. In any event, trans people exist.

And if they exist, they shouldn't be discriminated against, and they shouldn't be made out to be scapegoats for societal ills. And if a physician deems certain treatment appropriate for them, who are we to interfere with that doctor/patient relationship? Just leave them alone.

I'm pretty sure you can find many more examples of priests and other religious officials abusing children as compared to drag queens and transgenders.

[Roux]

T1B is better when ppanther is posting. Rack her.

[Softball Bat]

Well, just as gay people exist, so do transgenders. That is how they were born, or if you think in these terms, that is how God made them.

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.


There is a thing known as "the original sin," detailed in Genesis chapter 3.
Read it.
Understand why Romans 3:23 says "ALL have sinned."

Then read Romans 1:18-32, and grasp the homosexuality issue.


No, God did not make anyone gay.

[Roux]

Poptart, surely you'll understand that I, along with most of the people who have ever lived, do not consider the Bible authoritative on sexual orientation and identity.

It is just another book of myths, written 2000 years ago by people who didn't understand the world they lived in, similar in some ways to ancient Greek mythology.

Homosexuality is well documented in the animal kingdom, link one, link two, link three. We are animals. To try to dismiss human sexual orientation based upon your interpretation of an old book is as crazy as, well, a belief in a flat earth.

[ppanther]

ppanther, gay people exist, right? Some people are born with an attraction to the same sex, right? There are hundreds if not thousands of animal species where homosexuality is documented. You're with me so far, I think.

Well, just as gay people exist, so do transgenders. That is how they were born, or if you think in these terms, that is how God made them.

I only know one, someone who was born with female parts but mentally he is male. Honestly, for the first several years that I knew him, I just thought he was a gay male due to his effeminate appearance. In any event, trans people exist.

And if they exist, they shouldn't be discriminated against, and they shouldn't be made out to be scapegoats for societal ills. And if a physician deems certain treatment appropriate for them, who are we to interfere with that doctor/patient relationship? Just leave them alone.

I'm pretty sure you can find many more examples of priests and other religious officials abusing children as compared to drag queens and transgenders.

I realize people who swallow the woke mind virus think they’re doing others a favor when they try to educate them. This is why TikTok exists, is it not?

I do not disagree that there are a whole host of people with terrible mental illness. I also don’t blame them. It’s not all their fault. They have been conditioned to believe in the problem, and they’ve been conditioned to believe the cure is to change the outside to match the mental illness. It’s absolutely mind-blowing that this insanity is accepted as the compassionate path. It’s supernatural, it can’t be anything else. There is no way an otherwise intelligent person would ever buy it. I can agree with you that for some people, things don’t seem to match up between their minds and their bodies. So why are you, a rational, educated person, convinced the BODY is the thing that needs to change?

People are literally being ruined. They will never have kids. They will find happiness in glimpses. There is NO long-term data. This was not an epidemic only a handful of years ago. How do you back up your position? Is it only by quoting medical professionals who make incredible amounts of money mutilating kids?

Anyway, back to the main subject — this level of indoctrination is what is currently happening in public schools. So I still don’t get the pearl clutching over private Christian schools receiving funding via vouchers. They can have ours, since we pay a pile of property tax and ask nothing from the schools in return.

[Softball Bat]

Poptart, surely you'll understand that I, along with most of the people who have ever lived, do not consider the Bible authoritative on sexual orientation and identity.

You said that God made people gay.

Then what God are you talking about?

[Roux]

I can agree with you that for some people, things don’t seem to match up between their minds and their bodies. So why are you, a rational, educated person, convinced the BODY is the thing that needs to change?

I don't say that.

I say only that such decisions are properly made between a physician and a patient. We should not interfere with that decision and possible treatment, just as we should not interfere with the treatment plan in the event that you have a broken arm. One physician may suggest surgery, but another may urge a more conservative approach; in any event, it is your decision to make.

[ppanther]

Mandating biological males showering and changing with biological women and girls, is "faith based pretend time"

My kids are swimmers. Our Local Swim Committee introduced new by-laws this year that basically says, flat out, transgenders are allowed to use the locker room that matches their identity. If I ever hear of it actually happening, my daughter will no longer be using that locker room. Total group psychosis.

[ppanther]

I can agree with you that for some people, things don’t seem to match up between their minds and their bodies. So why are you, a rational, educated person, convinced the BODY is the thing that needs to change?

I don't say that.

I say only that such decisions are properly made between a physician and a patient. We should not interfere with that decision and possible treatment, just as we should not interfere with the treatment plan in the event that you have a broken arm. One physician may suggest surgery, but another may urge a more conservative approach; in any event, it is your decision to make.

So what is your opinion, speaking hypothetically? Do you believe medical intervention to change the body is acceptable? Especially when the victims are children? Don’t tell me you leave it up to the experts to decide. I want your opinion. You must have one, or I don’t know why you’d be arguing.

[Sudden Sam]

We should not allow 8-16 year old children to make decisions that will affect their health and life in monumental ways. A parent who allows mutilation surgery at those ages is insane.

[Roux]

Do you believe medical intervention to change the body is acceptable? Especially when the victims are children? Don’t tell me you leave it up to the experts to decide. I want your opinion.

No, do not leave it up to just the medical experts to decide.

It should be up to both the physician and the patient. The physician provides a diagnosis and possible treatment plans, and the patient makes the final decision. Or in the case of minors, the parent makes the decision.

Just like if you have a broken arm. One doc says surgery and another says just a cast. After listening to both of them, you decide on the treatment.

And just as no two broken arms are identical, you have to look the individual patient to determine what, if any, treatment is appropriate. Mental therapy might the best thing. Or maybe not.

Conservatives purport to be advocates of individual liberty and limited government. Yet in this instance, many conservatives want to limit that liberty and insert government directly between the patient and physician. I think the decision for treatment, if any, is properly made by the patient after consultation with their physician.

[ppanther]

Roux, I know you want to let the medical expert and the patient decide without your thoughts being any part of it. But that’s not what I asked, and you know it. You have an opinion that is not pure political posturing. You have thoughts alongside the virtue signaling, do you not? What are YOUR thoughts? Do you truly believe changing the external to match the inner mental illness is EVER the right path? If yes, how do you come to that conclusion? The body can be fixed, but not the mind?

Also, just curious, since you are obviously not Christian: do you believe people have souls? Genuinely curious, with a follow-up question depending on your answer.

[JPGettysburg]

I can agree with you that for some people, things don’t seem to match up between their minds and their bodies. So why are you, a rational, educated person, convinced the BODY is the thing that needs to change?

I don't say that.

I say only that such decisions are properly made between a physician and a patient. We should not interfere with that decision and possible treatment, just as we should not interfere with the treatment plan in the event that you have a broken arm. One physician may suggest surgery, but another may urge a more conservative approach; in any event, it is your decision to make.

What's with you?
Facts go in one ear and out your ass.

No REAL physician worth his or her SALT, will perform "sex change " surgery on a child.

Got that ?

[JPGettysburg]

Do you believe medical intervention to change the body is acceptable? Especially when the victims are children? Don’t tell me you leave it up to the experts to decide. I want your opinion.

No, do not leave it up to just the medical experts to decide.

It should be up to both the physician and the patient. The physician provides a diagnosis and possible treatment plans, and the patient makes the final decision. Or in the case of minors, the parent makes the decision.

Just like if you have a broken arm. One doc says surgery and another says just a cast. After listening to both of them, you decide on the treatment.

And just as no two broken arms are identical, you have to look the individual patient to determine what, if any, treatment is appropriate. Mental therapy might the best thing. Or maybe not.

Conservatives purport to be advocates of individual liberty and limited government. Yet in this instance, many conservatives want to limit that liberty and insert government directly between the patient and physician. I think the decision for treatment, if any, is properly made by the patient after consultation with their physician.

Liberty?
What about the Liberty of a child who wants to drive a car?

Are you really that delusional?

Kids can't drive, yet you want them.to be able to change their sex?

It's called human development.

If you were intelligent, we wouldn't have to explain this to you.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Not correct. Please check your work and try again.

The Establishment Clause would like to have a word with you, dumbshit.

Holy Shit. You are a complete dumbfuck. The purpose of the Establishment Clause was to prevent the federal government from establishing a national religion which would threaten the established religions in the states. Nine of the thirteen states had officially established religions.

Your use of absolute fact is going to trigger some people here.

[Diego in Seattle]

Mandating biological males showering and changing with biological women and girls, is "faith based pretend time"

My kids are swimmers. Our Local Swim Committee introduced new by-laws this year that basically says, flat out, transgenders are allowed to use the locker room that matches their identity. If I ever hear of it actually happening, my daughter will no longer be using that locker room. Total group psychosis.

It's not their fellow swimmers that present a threat to your kids.

It's the coaches.

[Roux]

Do you truly believe changing the external to match the inner mental illness is EVER the right path? If yes, how do you come to that conclusion? The body can be fixed, but not the mind?

Also, just curious, since you are obviously not Christian: do you believe people have souls? Genuinely curious, with a follow-up question depending on your answer.

I do not believe it is an illness. It seems like it is a condition, although there's probably a better word that is not coming to mind now.

Sure, I think there are circumstances where surgery is appropriate. Again, some people are born where the mind and body don't match. Some people are born with physical parts of both men and women, that is just a medical fact. So it shouldn't be too difficult to further understand that some people are born with the mental identity and orientation of both men and women.

Unless it is an emergency, surgery is not the first option in the practice of medicine, and it seems that dealing with transgenders should not be an exception to that general rule. So therapy and counseling are tried. But if that doesn't work, then what? Well then surgery may be in the best interest of the patient.


As to your question re souls, this may surprise you, but I am ordained. To be very clear, I did not go to seminary school, and generally do not hold myself out as a religious official. Still, I do take it seriously, and I've performed around 100 weddings and a few funerals.

As to souls --- well, that is difficult. And my answer would include my appreciation of what happened to me when I came so very close to dying. Yes, I had a near death experience that I cannot fully or properly describe. It may have been 30 years ago when it happened, but it had a profound affect on me at the time, and that continues to this day.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Roux-

You are a good person. But you are on the wrong path. I do not know anyone who is advocating hatred or harm to transvestites. If a dude wants to wear a dress and high heels, whatever. It only begins to become problematic only when government attempts to compel its citizens to say the dude is now a lady. And it gets much worse when the government tells children as part of their school curriculum that such conduct is perfectly healthy and normal, and goes completely off the rails when it gives children the power to request irreversible body mutilation.

Where does it end for you? There are people out there who identify as members of other species. Are the furries nutso? Are people allowed to be transracial? What is wrong with agreeing that no harm should come to any adult who chooses to do anything that does not harm others, but others can still think they are weird AF?

[Softball Bat]

There are people out there who identify as members of other species.

[Roux]

88, I can only talk about Dylan, the only person I've known who is trans. Born with female parts, but mentally the person is a man.

I asked him how did he realize he was trans and not a gay woman. He said that orientation is who you're attracted to, but being trans is who you are. Mentally, he is a man. I don't know if he's had surgery or not, didn't ask.

So he exists. And so do others who have similar circumstances. Trans people exist.

A caveat: a related question is trans in athletics. I think you just create a third category, perhaps call it open, and whoever can compete in it.

As to calling a dude a lady -- 88, Dylan is a man, regardless of what parts he was born with. Just like you and I have a man's mentality and identity, so does he. He's a man.

So trans people exist. Why should we pretend otherwise? And why should they be cast as boogeymen? You know what I'm talking about. They are as American as you and I, and our country should treat them as we are treated. There is not a transgender exception in the 14th Amendment.

As to minors having surgery, that should be like other surgeries, the parent makes the decision. Why should the parents of trans children have less rights than the parents of non-trans children?

[Mikey]

T1B is not a place for serious discussion.

sincerely,
Marcus Allen

How did this devolve into an argument about transgender locker rooms and child mutilation? Seems like this is how almost every discussion involving the "anti-woke" crowd ends up.

I realize people who swallow the woke mind virus think they’re doing others a favor...

Even though she's making an effort to sound reasonable, I can tell from this that ppanther has swallowed the MAGAt Kool-Aid down to the last salty drop. Sad.

"Woke" is not a religion, any more than vegetarian, or Republican, or housewife is a religion. It's an adjective co-opted by the loud mouth nut-job wing of the Republican party as a convenient epithet to describe anything that they don't like. Catholicism is a religion. Judaism is a religion. LDS, Methodist, Southern Baptist, Islam, Hindu, Zoroastrianism, etc., etc. These are religions.

That being said, I have nothing against private schools, or religious schools, or home schooling. We (my wife) home schooled our daughter for a year in 8th grade after she was bullied all through 7th as the new kid in town. She did fine when everybody changed schools for 9th. And yes, public schools do have their problems, undoubtedly different now than when our kids were in school. But public schools are PUBLIC. That has several implications. They are funded by taxpayer dollars. They have to accept all students, whatever their religion, mental or physical disabilities, family situations, or other problems they might have. They are accountable to a School Board, usually made up of members chosen in public elections. If you don't like what your public schools are teaching you can go to a board meeting and make your objections known, you can also run for the Board.

Private schools are accountable to nobody except their own private management and, to a certain extent, the parents. Religious schools are usually run by an organized religious body. They can accept or reject any students that they want to for whatever reasons they want to. They can teach whatever they want to. That's fine with me too. But don't use public tax dollars for schools that have no public accountability.

So I still don’t get the pearl clutching over private Christian schools receiving funding via vouchers. They can have ours, since we pay a pile of property tax and ask nothing from the schools in return.

Pearl clutching. LOL.

We have PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM in the United States, which is an entrenched part of our democracy. Everybody pays into it because it's how we educate our next generation(s). I don't have any kids in school, but I don't object to my tax dollars going to public education. I benefitted from public education so I owe it to the system to pay it forward. If you want to give your money to a Christian school...fine. But don't send other peoples' money there. Every dollar that goes to some unaccountable private school is a dollar that's not going to public schools, who need it a lot more considering the requirements for Special Ed, feeding kids who's families can't afford healthy meals, etc.

Public schools should be 100% free of any religious teachings.

There should also NEVER be any mention of sexuality in grades K-6. Kids don’t need the opinions of people who are supposed to teach them math, science, and English.

And RACK Sam's entire take.

I do think it's important for kids to get a religious education, but that's up to the parents, or their church, or their private school. I think that public schools should include world religions in their history classes. But as history, without bias and without indoctrination.

[JPGettysburg]

Mandating biological males showering and changing with biological women and girls, is "faith based pretend time"

My kids are swimmers. Our Local Swim Committee introduced new by-laws this year that basically says, flat out, transgenders are allowed to use the locker room that matches their identity. If I ever hear of it actually happening, my daughter will no longer be using that locker room. Total group psychosis.

It's not their fellow swimmers that present a threat to your kids.

It's the coaches.

Who said anything about "a threat?"

It's about EMPATHY for others.
Are you that much of a narcissist to not understand that biological women and girls don't want to shower and change with biological males.
Really? You weren't aware of this?