Boeing Starliner 1st Astronaut Flight

[StrawMan]

NASA Considers Sending Boeing Starliner Astronauts Home on SpaceX Dragon

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Boeing Starliner may not bring its first astronauts home after all.

NASA officials, absent a representative from Boeing, updated reporters today (Aug. 7) about how troubleshooting Starliner's undocking and landing may affect the next SpaceX astronaut flight to the International Space Station.

Starliner has faced a lot of difficulties since launching its first astronaut mission, most especially after 5 of its 28 reaction control thrusters (RCS) misfired during docking with the ISS on June 6. Work on the matter is ongoing, and as NASA revealed yesterday (Aug. 6), it will require the next launch to the ISS to wait. Crew-9, SpaceX's ninth operational flight to the ISS designed for four astronauts, will now launch Sept. 24 instead of Aug. 18. That's because NASA may send only two astronauts up on Crew-9, and bring the Starliner astronauts with the two returning crew sometime around February 2025.

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The duo was supposed to stay in space for roughly 10 days, but it now has been north of 60 and counting. NASA continues to emphasize the astronauts can leave the ISS if an emergency arises, but agency officials sound less certain now that the astronauts will come home on Starliner, as the mission plan called for.

"We don't just have to bring a crew back on Starliner, for example. We could bring them back on another vehicle."

That vehicle may very well be SpaceX.

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Regardless of who is on board, per a task order issued by NASA, SpaceX Crew-9 could launch with two astronauts and two seats filled with mass simulators to account for the empty seats. Crew-9 would stay docked to ISS for a normal six-month mission, with Williams and Wilmore returning early next year in the two leftover seats.

It's notable that Boeing's Commercial Crew head was MIA from today's briefing.

Yes, Clusterfuck and FUBAR are in play and competing for top billing.

[Roach]

Now the Boeing failures are affecting the space station operations schedules. They need to just jettison the fucking vehicle and let it burn up over Seattle or India.

Save us the drama, we all ready know Boeing is in way over their head and will never catch up.

Shit would change if I was in charge.

[Roux]

Can you imagine if (G0D forbid) the two astronauts leave the ISS on the Boeing Starliner, and don't make it back safely?


Also, it is amazing to see how much NASA, Boeing, the US, and all the other countries involved with the ISS, are all doing in coordination, just to keep up the facade of a globe shaped earth. Why are they so scared of the TRUTH??????????

[mvscal]

Damn. The Starliner is such a huge piece of shit it will probably be the name of the next horse that Spoux will own 1/5,067th of or,perhaps, his BiL's next boat.

[Dr_Phibes]

[Rootbeer]

Damn. The Starliner is such a huge piece of shit it will probably be the name of the next horse that Spoux will own 1/5,067th of or,perhaps, his BiL's next boat.

Racket

[Meat Head]

Bad news keeps slowly trickling out. Almost like they are hiding the seriousness of this shit.

https://futurism.com/stranded-astronaut ... compatible

Time to walk away from Star liner and let Boeing concentrate on airplanes.

I wonder if that lady astronaut is tired of picking her nose. Or maybe she's giving some great rimmers up there to the crew.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Bad news keeps slowly trickling out. Almost like they are hiding the seriousness of this shit.

https://futurism.com/stranded-astronaut ... compatible

Time to walk away from Star liner and let Boeing concentrate on airplanes.

I wonder if that lady astronaut is tired of picking her nose. Or maybe she's giving some great rimmers up there to the crew.

There's a Problem With Rescuing the Stranded Astronauts: SpaceX and Boeing Spacesuits Aren't Compatible

I guess I don't understand the insurmountable difficulty of flying a couple of space suits to the Boeing astronauts, have them zip those suckers on, and fly them back to the ground. Are these suits biometric or something?

[Diego in Seattle]

NASA is sending them back in a SpaceX spacecraft.

Are they going to call AAA to pick up the Starliner?

[Dr_Phibes]

Are they going to call AAA to pick up the Starliner?

That big-nosed, homeless woman you sent up there will pawn it to teenagers for beer. The Starliner will then reappear in western New York and collide with the stage at a Red Hot Chili Peppers reunion show.

[Screw_Michigan]

That big-nosed, homeless woman you sent up there

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Rack Phibes.

[The Seer]

My GF would be peddling that sucker back to Earth herself if she had packed her luggage for a week and found out it had to last 6 months.....

[HighPlainsGrifter]

My GF would be peddling that sucker back to Earth herself if she had packed her luggage for a week and found out it had to last 6 months.....

I believe this 100%. She'd calculate the reentry trajectory on the back of an old deposit slip and get out of there by sheer force of will.

[Softball Bat]

Also, it is amazing to see how much NASA, Boeing, the US, and all the other countries involved with the ISS, are all doing in coordination, just to keep up the facade of a globe shaped earth. Why are they so scared of the TRUTH??????????

Look at the screen on the left in this video.
18:30 to 19:15.

Why are moths flying around up in space?

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Also, it is amazing to see how much NASA, Boeing, the US, and all the other countries involved with the ISS, are all doing in coordination, just to keep up the facade of a globe shaped earth. Why are they so scared of the TRUTH??????????

Look at the screen on the left in this video.
18:30 to 19:15.

Why are moths flying around up in space?

This is a good question. WTF?

[BSmack]

Boeing should concentrate on building planes that don’t have catastrophic failures before getting into the space game.

[StrawMan]

[StrawMan]

Boeing Considers Selling its Space Business, Including Starliner

Boeing may sell off its space business, including its Starliner program, amid large financial losses for the company, a media report suggests.

The discussions are said to be "at an early stage," according to an exclusive in the Wall Street Journal. The reported talks come less than two months after Starliner completed its first astronaut test flight on Sept. 6 by touching down in New Mexico autonomously, without its two crewmembers.

Boeing is known for decades of work with NASA, including being the prime contractor for the International Space Station. (The company continues engineering support services for ISS to this day.) But Boeing is facing mounting financial issues this year, including a protracted strike by its largest labor union and significant deficits in the Starliner program.
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And it's uncertain how much of the business may be sold, if a sale happens at all. For example, Boeing may keep its role in leading the Space Launch System (SLS) rocket for NASA's Artemis program of moon exploration, the WSJ report noted. The SLS successfully launched the Artemis 1 uncrewed mission to lunar orbit in 2022 and will launch astronauts around the moon as soon as 2025, with Artemis 2.

Boeing also has a 50% stake, along with Lockheed Martin, in United Launch Alliance, a national security focused-launch provider whose Atlas V rocket launched the Starliner mission on June 5. Lockheed and Boeing have reportedly been looking to sell ULA, as the joint venture moves into launches with a next-generation rocket known as Vulcan Centaur. Vulcan completed its second-ever launch on Oct. 2.
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[Screw_Michigan]

Solid post Strawman. Was wondering myself over the past couple of days what parts of Boeing's space business would be worth anything if it was split up. Starliner is probably not worth much. Same for SLS as it's decades old technology, unless some company finds value in its entirely pork barrel spending that keeps it afloat.

ULA would be worth something if Vulcan wasn't behind schedule. But it's not, so Boeing's stake in ULA can't be worth much. What about Boeing satellites? Probably a smaller sized but decently margined business.

[Dr_Phibes]

You'll find Boeing in the bargain bin of any Zellers.

Canada should buy Boeing and rescue the astronauts, just to make you look bad. We'll have Dr. Homeless Menopause back safe and sound, she can get right back to swapping out the oil in Cape Canaveral garbage trucks and you'll have Canada to thank for it.

Can you smoke on the ISS, or is that against the rules?

[Meat Head]

I heard she was giving a rimmer with that big nose to a Ruskie astronaut and he kicked a leak in the russian module.

[Dr_Phibes]

I heard she was giving a rimmer with that big nose to a Ruskie astronaut and he kicked a leak in the russian module.

Just think what she could do with the CanadArm



We're currently working on the leg. When we get the whole body, she's up Uranus without a paddle.

[Screw_Michigan]

I heard she was giving a rimmer with that big nose to a Ruskie astronaut and he kicked a leak in the russian module.

Just think what she could do with the CanadArm



We're currently working on the leg. When we get the whole body, she's up Uranus without a paddle.