The Ugly and Inescapable Truth About America’s Gun Violence Problem

[StrawMan]

Gun violence remains one of the most divisive and emotionally charged topics in America. While the conversation often spirals into partisan talking points, meaningful solutions remain elusive.

William Kirk of Washington Gun Law recently tackled this uncomfortable discussion head-on, using hard data to shed light on the complexities surrounding gun-related violence in the United States.



The Data Doesn’t Lie

Relying on statistics from the CDC and FBI, Kirk highlighted a stark reality: America’s gun violence problem isn’t evenly distributed across demographics.

• White Americans: 2.8 homicides per 100,000 people

• Asian Americans: 1.7 per 100,000

• Hispanic Americans: 7.1 per 100,000

• Native Americans: 13.6 per 100,000

• African Americans: 28.6 per 100,000

These numbers reveal a critical disparity. Some communities face violence levels comparable to war-torn regions, while others live with far lower risks.

Who Are the Perpetrators?

The FBI data paints an equally grim picture:

• 81% of white victims were killed by white perpetrators.

• 89% of African-American victims were killed by African-American perpetrators.

This isn’t just a “gun problem”—it’s a societal problem deeply intertwined with poverty, systemic issues, and community breakdowns.


A State-Level Case Study: Louisiana

Louisiana consistently ranks among the states with the highest gun-related homicides. In 2023:

• 89 white individuals were killed by firearms (3.4 per 100,000).

• 626 African-Americans were killed (42.4 per 100,000).

The numbers beg the question: Are loose gun laws the issue, or are there deeper social and economic factors at play?

The Age and Gender Factor

Among African-American males, the risk of gun-related homicide skyrockets during adolescence and early adulthood:

• Ages 15–24: 100 per 100,000

• Ages 25–34: 86.2 per 100,000

These aren’t just numbers—they represent lives cut short and communities in perpetual grief.

Honest Conversations Are the First Step

As Kirk rightly points out, we can’t solve a problem we’re unwilling to discuss honestly. The conversation about gun violence needs to move past surface-level debates about firearms and dive into the root causes—poverty, family structure, education, and community support.

As Kirk says:

And there is no issue in America that we do a worse job of trying to discuss and resolve than when it comes to race. And while that problem used to be blamed on many on the right for their unwillingness to have an open mind, it’s now really the blame shifts mostly to those on the left who believe that anyone who doesn’t see the world exactly according to them is obviously racist, misogynistic, or homophobic.

But like I said earlier, if the CDC suddenly had a huge press conference about an alarming rise in stomach cancer, and then yet you find out that they were doing nothing to investigate what was causing that stomach cancer, well then you’d beg the question: are we ever going to solve this problem?

And that is the exact problem that America comes to when we talk about gun violence, or more importantly, the ugly and inescapable truth about gun violence.

Moving Forward

It’s time to stop ignoring the data and start having hard conversations. Whether or not you agree with every point raised, the numbers demand attention. If we continue to sidestep these uncomfortable truths, we’ll remain stuck in a cycle of violence with no end in sight.

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[The Seer]

Louisiana consistently ranks among the states with the highest gun-related AND VEHICULAR homicides.

[Roux]

Fuck you.

[Smackie Chan]

Fuck you.

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

[Dr_Phibes]

Fuck you.

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

I think he's tackling literacy. It's the first step.

[Roux]

Fuck you.

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

Not ready for NOLA terrorism jokes yet.

[Innocent Bystander]

Gun violence remains one of the most divisive and emotionally charged topics in America. While the conversation often spirals into partisan talking points, meaningful solutions remain elusive.

William Kirk of Washington Gun Law recently tackled this uncomfortable discussion head-on, using hard data to shed light on the complexities surrounding gun-related violence in the United States.



The Data Doesn’t Lie

Relying on statistics from the CDC and FBI, Kirk highlighted a stark reality: America’s gun violence problem isn’t evenly distributed across demographics.

• White Americans: 2.8 homicides per 100,000 people

• Asian Americans: 1.7 per 100,000

• Hispanic Americans: 7.1 per 100,000

• Native Americans: 13.6 per 100,000

• African Americans: 28.6 per 100,000

These numbers reveal a critical disparity. Some communities face violence levels comparable to war-torn regions, while others live with far lower risks.

Who Are the Perpetrators?

The FBI data paints an equally grim picture:

• 81% of white victims were killed by white perpetrators.

• 89% of African-American victims were killed by African-American perpetrators.

This isn’t just a “gun problem”—it’s a societal problem deeply intertwined with poverty, systemic issues, and community breakdowns.


A State-Level Case Study: Louisiana

Louisiana consistently ranks among the states with the highest gun-related homicides. In 2023:

• 89 white individuals were killed by firearms (3.4 per 100,000).

• 626 African-Americans were killed (42.4 per 100,000).

The numbers beg the question: Are loose gun laws the issue, or are there deeper social and economic factors at play?

The Age and Gender Factor

Among African-American males, the risk of gun-related homicide skyrockets during adolescence and early adulthood:

• Ages 15–24: 100 per 100,000

• Ages 25–34: 86.2 per 100,000

These aren’t just numbers—they represent lives cut short and communities in perpetual grief.

Honest Conversations Are the First Step

As Kirk rightly points out, we can’t solve a problem we’re unwilling to discuss honestly. The conversation about gun violence needs to move past surface-level debates about firearms and dive into the root causes—poverty, family structure, education, and community support.

As Kirk says:

And there is no issue in America that we do a worse job of trying to discuss and resolve than when it comes to race. And while that problem used to be blamed on many on the right for their unwillingness to have an open mind, it’s now really the blame shifts mostly to those on the left who believe that anyone who doesn’t see the world exactly according to them is obviously racist, misogynistic, or homophobic.

But like I said earlier, if the CDC suddenly had a huge press conference about an alarming rise in stomach cancer, and then yet you find out that they were doing nothing to investigate what was causing that stomach cancer, well then you’d beg the question: are we ever going to solve this problem?

And that is the exact problem that America comes to when we talk about gun violence, or more importantly, the ugly and inescapable truth about gun violence.

Moving Forward

It’s time to stop ignoring the data and start having hard conversations. Whether or not you agree with every point raised, the numbers demand attention. If we continue to sidestep these uncomfortable truths, we’ll remain stuck in a cycle of violence with no end in sight.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/the- ... e-problem/

No, you will not take Second Amendment rights away from ADOS. Fuck you.

Access to guns isn't the issue. Stop spending money on Israel, illegals and h1bs, devote those resources to actual citizens, and the violence problem will clear itself up.

Only no one really wants the violence to clear up. Lesson should have been learned with the Dark Alliance. Those numbers exist because someone above both of our pay grades WANTS those numbers to exist.

[Dr_Phibes]

I thought seer's execution was good.

[Mikey]

I thought seer's execution was good.

He was executed? How come I missed it?

[Diego in Seattle]

I thought seer's execution was good.

He was executed? How come I missed it?

If it was by guillotine his IQ probably went up...

[Rootbeer]

Access to guns isn't the issue. Stop spending money on Israel, illegals and h1bs, devote those resources to actual citizens, and the violence problem will clear itself up.

Only no one really wants the violence to clear up. Lesson should have been learned with the Dark Alliance. Those numbers exist because someone above both of our pay grades WANTS those numbers to exist.

IB Johnson is right!

[Wolfman]

Quoting Shane
"..a gun is a tool, like an axe or shovel, it's only as good as the man using it"
these days he'd add a vehicle or even box cutters

[Mikey]

Wow. I never realized that it was so simple. It's not the fact that there are too many guns that are easily available to anybody who wants one. It's just that the wrong people are getting them. That and the fact that it's the left who are keeping the...err...POC down, because it suits their nefarious purposes.

Problem solved.




Oh yeah. And Biden's open border policies.

[mvscal]

We don't have a gun violence problem. We have a niqqer violence problem...well, they do anyway. Not my problem.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Looks like some people are not ready for this conversation.

And by "some people," I mean Mikey.

[Mikey]

Just agreeing with the original premise. Did you even read it? What's your take?

[HighPlainsGrifter]

I read it. My "take" is you aren't interested in discussing anything but the presence of guns. The snark in your post taught me that.

[StrawMan]

No, you will not take Second Amendment rights away from ADOS.

I never suggested that. Nor does the article or video. ALL gun control is racist. ALL gun control has racist roots. Time for a reset. More freedom is the answer, including equal 2A rights for everybody. To take it a step further, I support allowing people with convictions on their records full restoration of their 2A rights after they've paid their full debt to society. These days, depending on what state you live in, even a non-violent misdemeanor conviction can result in the gubmint taking away your 2A rights for life. Catch a felony charge? Fuggetaboutit.

Fuck you.

You should be so lucky. More sweet talk will get you nowhere, my dear.

Access to guns isn't the issue. Stop spending money on Israel, illegals and h1bs, devote those resources to actual citizens, and the violence problem will clear itself up.

Now you're talking. Put some of that 'saved' money towards firearms education, training, and conflict de-escalation. Acquiring firearms legally is the way. Training is the way. An armed society is a polite society. Also, put some of that money towards policies that don't result in broken homes and you'd really be onto something.

Only no one really wants the violence to clear up. Lesson should have been learned with the Dark Alliance. Those numbers exist because someone above both of our pay grades WANTS those numbers to exist.

"The shootings will continue until morale improves."

[Innocent Bystander]

Fuck you.

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

Not ready for NOLA terrorism jokes yet.

Oh. I thought it was Hedges he was baiting into making a 'too soon' appearance. Well... ok.

[Innocent Bystander]

We don't have a gun violence problem. We have a niqqer violence problem...well, they do anyway. Not my problem.

There's the border, Red. You're welcome to leave and take those foreign cousins who've been allowed to commit genocide against US citizens with you.

[The Seer]

Fuck you.

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

Not ready for NOLA terrorism jokes yet.

**The amount of pain & suffering of the victims and their families is immeasurable. I did make the assumption that none of them are in here among our sordid clambake & be affected by a callous offering that is prototypal fare on this board.

[Diego in Seattle]

To whom is your ire directed, and why?

Not ready for NOLA terrorism jokes yet.

**The amount of pain & suffering of the victims and their families is immeasurable. I did make the assumption that none of them are in here among our sordid clambake & be affected by a callous offering that is prototypal fare on this board.

14 dead with another 30 injured yet you don't think there's any possibility that anyone here might have any personal connection to the tragedy, including a poster who is a resident of Louisiana?

Yet again you prove yourself to be an imbecile.

[The Seer]

Fuck you.

[Roux]

Seer, I get that we joke about insensitive stuff here, we've done that for years. But this one hit home for me though. I am a part of the group in Louisiana that responds to emergencies and disasters. Most often those are hurricanes, but there have been things like oil spills, floods, civil unrest, and potential nuclear plant accidents. And now, terrorism in New Orleans. So I saw and heard things that were not pleasant, things that were only vaguely described in the news. And yesterday, I learned that the parents of one of the victims live near me in our neighborhood, not close friends but acquaintances. We haven't buried our dead yet, the event remains quite raw to us, and perhaps now you may understand that I'm not ready to joke about this yet. Again, I get that you only did what we do here, but don't expect me to laugh.

[Dr_Phibes]

another 30 injured

So.. did Allah them survive?

[HighPlainsGrifter]

[Mikey]

False equivalence. But it fits nicely with your repeated use of strawmen.

[smackaholic]

It really is a false equivalence.

First off, there is a constitutional right to possess firearms. There is no such right to smoke weed.

You can argue that there is a good associated with firearm possession. That good is the right to defense of person and property. There really is no good associated with weed, unless you are a doritos salesman.

BTW, I am pro weed and firearms possession.

[Mikey]

There really is no good associated with weed, unless you are a doritos salesman.

Fuck. I wouldn’t want know how many times went through a whole bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos in one night when I was in college.

[Mike Ditka]

There really is no good associated with weed, unless you are a doritos salesman.

Fuck. I wouldn’t want know how many times went through a whole bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos in one night when I was in college.

Ok guys we don't want to hear your orange dick stories.

[Mikey]

There really is no good associated with weed, unless you are a doritos salesman.

Fuck. I wouldn’t want know how many times went through a whole bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos in one night when I was in college.

Ok guys we don't want to hear your orange dick stories.

WTF you’re not dead yet?
Anyone have you in the pool?

[Mike Ditka]

Fuck. I wouldn’t want know how many times went through a whole bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos in one night when I was in college.

Ok guys we don't want to hear your orange dick stories.

WTF you’re not dead yet?
Anyone have you in the pool?

Yeah that cocksucker L45B

[Hedges]

I thought it was Hedges he was baiting into making a 'too soon' appearance.

Fuck you.

That was from Python, not me. I’m a good boy.

[Dr_Phibes]

Yeah that cocksucker L45B

Shocking and tasteless work from L45B.
If you really want to get him back, submit the name of a shareholder from some dodgy insurance outfit, he'll blow a fuse.

[Rootbeer]

I thought it was Hedges he was baiting into making a 'too soon' appearance.

Fuck you.

That was from Python, not me. I’m a good boy.

Well played. Join us in Tune Town chat some time, Hedges.

[L45B]

Ok guys we don't want to hear your orange dick stories.

WTF you’re not dead yet?
Anyone have you in the pool?

Yeah that cocksucker L45B

It’s been 40 years, yet we shall hoist you up on our shoulders once more, coach! In 2025 it shall be!

/s/

The ‘85 pallBearers

[Wolfman]

I "carry" a 9mm Springfield Hellcat in my car.
Fess up----how many here carry in your vehicle or on person ?
I'll carry on person when FL soon passes open carry.

[Sven Golly]

I "carry" a 9mm Springfield Hellcat in my car.
Fess up----how many here carry in your vehicle or on person ?
I'll carry on person when FL soon passes open carry.

Definitely at all times in my car.

I carry on my person when the situation dictates.

Luckily we have open carry here in GA so I have the option.

[Mikey]

I carry a 4 gauge pump action in my pants. It’s all I need around here. You fags have obvious manhood issues. Especially when you go around boasting about your “fire power.”

Wolfman would probably fall over backwards if he ever fired that 9 mm while standing.

Pathetic.

[Roux]

Fess up----how many here carry in your vehicle or on person ?

Usually not. However, sometimes a S&W .357 but merely loaded with .38.