Fire in Pacific Palisades

[Mikey]

So, the Cali third world electrical grid scores again. Big fukking surprise there.

This begs the question, why does one of the most advanced states have a 3rd world grid?

I don’t recall brown outs and fires being a thing 50 years ago.

Could it be that we had competent people overseeing it?

Could it be that we had a tried and true generation system, all under the control of the utility. And it was power by dead dinosaurs and atom splitting?

Could it be possible that hooking up thousands of small generating stations that make power when they feel like it could be a bad idea? And each of these stations are overseen by….uhhhh, WTF does oversee them?

Nahhhhh, none of that can be true. It’s all the fault of CO2 levels which might have caused a fraction of a degree warming.

We?

Another poser who really doesn't know what he's talking about. You make some valid points. But third world? Give me a break. You have no clue.

Funny I don't see much sympathy in this "discussion" for any of the victims. Just a convenient chance to heap some scorn on the folks who supposedly brought this on themselves. Why wasn't the infrastructure in North Carolina and the rest of the Southeast prepared for Hurricane Helene, which wasn't any more unprecedented than the weather events the past week in SoCal?

But...they're not as ripe of a target for the MAGAt crowd as this week's victims. So seriously, unless you've got something more constructive than links to some doofus "X" account or advice for forest management where there are no forests...just go fuck yourselves.

And the press can go fuck themselves too. I'm pretty tired of reading about the $40 million mansions lost in Malibu. Those people can go and live in one of their other homes for a while and maybe miss the beachfront for a season. If you choose to spend tens of millions upgrading an uninsurable home, and it burns down, I can't muster all that much sympathy.

[FiatLux]

HPG is a troll, and not a very good one. Just extremely verbose. He criticizes people for stuff they never posted (I.e.he makes shit up) as a cover for not responding to being called out for the extensive and total bullshit that he actually posts himself. It’s a ruse that he has repeated over and over.

Yeah.

When you try and explain thermodynamics to them... they see it as some kind of witchcraft.

I'm not sure if you've ever been to North Dakota, Nebraska, and Alabama. But, they're shitholes. Nobody gives a shit about them and that's basically why you never hear about them. That's why they live their lives vicariously through us and California.



This is what they call "Friday Night" in North Dakota...







Nothing says chromosomal aneuploidy like this group of retards

[Mikey]

I don’t recall brown outs and fires being a thing 50 years ago.

And BTW...the population in 1975 was 21 million. Today, it's 39 million, with a lot more homes in more fire prone areas ("urban/rural interface") because so many folks from FOC have chosen to move here since then. The faster the pussies like Seer decide to leave...the better.

Headline from November of 1975:

Fire Scorches 40,000 Acres in the Los Angeles Hills

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/11/25/arch ... hills.html

Obviously, your memory doesn't go back that far.


Chronology of Southern California Wildfires

https://ucanr.edu/sites/safelandscapes/files/79451.pdf

[FiatLux]

Why wasn't the infrastructure in North Carolina and the rest of the Southeast prepared for Hurricane Helene, which wasn't any more unprecedented than the weather events the past week in SoCal?

I laughed.


If they just had more cinder blocks under their trailer homes none of that would have happen.

[Mikey]

Why wasn't the infrastructure in North Carolina and the rest of the Southeast prepared for Hurricane Helene, which wasn't any more unprecedented than the weather events the past week in SoCal?

I laughed.


If they just had more cinder blocks under their trailer homes none of that would have happen.

The water infrastructure there wasn’t prepared. Why weren’t they ready for a massive influx of water?

[The Seer]

Yeah.

When you try and explain thermodynamics to them... they see it as some kind of witchcraft.

Nobody would ever consider challenging your intellectual knowledge on anal sex reception with the occasional interruption of the sale of a windchime. Nobody.

[The Seer]

I don’t recall brown outs and fires being a thing 50 years ago.

Actually the state did get an introduction to imbecilic democrat governorship around 20+ years ago via the recalled Gov Gray Davis. He brought the term "rolling blackouts" into the lexicon of Calif conversation.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

:idea:

Perhaps Mikey & Fiat could haul some of that North Carolina rainfall to California. I mean, they're already carring water for Newsom. :rimshot:

[Roux]

Nothing says chromosomal aneuploidy like this group of retards

Pretty sure those three guys earn more per year than most of us.

[Scott from Anaheim]

Chronology of Southern California Wildfires

https://ucanr.edu/sites/safelandscapes/files/79451.pdf

That's actually a very informative document. Rack the research. Say, I noticed some fires dating back to the 1940s. Kinda shits all over your climate change narrative doesn't it? Way to kick yourself in the cunt.

[Mikey]

Chronology of Southern California Wildfires

https://ucanr.edu/sites/safelandscapes/files/79451.pdf

That's actually a very informative document. Rack the research. Say, I noticed some fires dating back to the 1940s. Kinda shits all over your climate change narrative doesn't it? Way to kick yourself in the cunt.

Not really. The last one in that list was in 2009. Don't you think that there have been a few since then?

The 8 largest, 3 of the 5 deadliest and 12 of the 16 most destructive (not counting this week) have all occurred since 2017. Kinda shits all over your lame attempt at critical thinking, doesn't it?

https://wfca.com/wildfire-articles/hist ... wildfires/

Nice try anyway.

[Sudden Sam]

I was unaware of the new edict that we’re not allowed to comment on events that take place outside of our own state’s borders. Just saw Mikey’s post (I think it was Mikey, but it coulda been m2 or Diego) declaring that. I guess because those of us outside of California can’t read, this was necessary.

This was just sent to me by a Californian, so I think it may pass muster.

https://x.com/SheilaG2024/status/187779 ... heilaG2024

It appears y’all Cali folks are dumb as fuck.

[FiatLux]

Nothing says chromosomal aneuploidy like this group of retards

Pretty sure those three guys earn more per year than most of us.

Maybe.

I don't know what you guys make.

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.


It would be well below poverty level in the San Francisco Bay Area.

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/100 ... ng%20costs.

[dan's college room mate]

Chronology of Southern California Wildfires

https://ucanr.edu/sites/safelandscapes/files/79451.pdf

That's actually a very informative document. Rack the research. Say, I noticed some fires dating back to the 1940s. Kinda shits all over your climate change narrative doesn't it? Way to kick yourself in the cunt.

This^^^^^.

There were even significant fires going back to the earliest years of the 20th century.

And I’m sure they were there in earlier centuries, it the white devils weren’t around to record them.

Here are the facts we do know.

California has rain totals that vary wildly. Therefore, it is important that they catch as much as they can in the wet years, so they have it during the current dry year.

Also, the lefty apologists say it NEVER is this dry this time of year. I see a number of fires in January during the 50-60s.

So yea, they kinda do.


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[Mikey]

I was unaware of the new edict that we’re not allowed to comment on events that take place outside of our own state’s borders. Just saw Mikey’s post (I think it was Mikey, but it coulda been m2 or Diego) declaring that. I guess because those of us outside of California can’t read, this was necessary.

This was just sent to me by a Californian, so I think it may pass muster.

https://x.com/SheilaG2024/status/187779 ... heilaG2024

It appears y’all Cali folks are dumb as fuck.

I don't think anybody said that you aren't "allowed" to do anything here. But sorry if I might have hurt your feelings by pointing out that you look like a fucking idiot when you start posting shit about shit that you don't know shit about.

Especially if your preferred source of information is "X."

And BTW, here's what I found at your latest venture into Elon-land:

https://x.com/SheilaG2024/status/187779 ... heilaG2024



It appears that y'all are even dumber than fuck.

[Mikey]

Chronology of Southern California Wildfires

https://ucanr.edu/sites/safelandscapes/files/79451.pdf

That's actually a very informative document. Rack the research. Say, I noticed some fires dating back to the 1940s. Kinda shits all over your climate change narrative doesn't it? Way to kick yourself in the cunt.

This^^^^^.

There were even significant fires going back to the earliest years of the 20th century.

And I’m sure they were there in earlier centuries, it the white devils weren’t around to record them.

Here are the facts we do know.

California has rain totals that vary wildly. Therefore, it is important that they catch as much as they can in the wet years, so they have it during the current dry year.

Also, the lefty apologists say it NEVER is this dry this time of year. I see a number of fires in January during the 50-60s.

So yea, they kinda do.


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You might want to scroll up a few posts and see how things have changed over the past decade or so.

Funny, a while ago you said you didn't recall any fires in CA fifty years ago. I show you that there were and now you seem to have turned a 180. So which is it to be? Fires or no fires? You seem to be able to come up with an illogical take either way.

And I don't recall anybody saying that it's never dry this time of year. In fact, in my memory, most of the largest fires have occurred during unusually dry winters because things have already dried out during the summer and there's no rain to add moisture to the ground or the vegetation. The problem this time isn't just the dryness, but unprecedented 90 to 100 mph winds during such dry weather. I guess you missed that part.

Oh, and "catching" rainfall doesn't make the fuel any less volatile when it dries out. In fact, unusually wet winters make for more dangerous fire conditions during the next dry season because of added growth of vegetation. I guess you missed that part as well.

You really should try to think these things through before displaying your ignorance.

[Roux]

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.

How much does an Oil Rig Worker make in North Dakota?
As of Jan 6, 2025, the average hourly pay for an Oil Rig Worker in North Dakota is $28.12 an hour.

While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $49.60 and as low as $7.88, the majority of Oil Rig Worker salaries currently range between $16.78 (25th percentile) to $38.41 (75th percentile) in North Dakota.

Holy shit, I was WAY off on what they make. I was thinking they brought in $250k/year.

HPG, what do your guys make?

[Mikey]

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.

How much does an Oil Rig Worker make in North Dakota?
As of Jan 6, 2025, the average hourly pay for an Oil Rig Worker in North Dakota is $28.12 an hour.

While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $49.60 and as low as $7.88, the majority of Oil Rig Worker salaries currently range between $16.78 (25th percentile) to $38.41 (75th percentile) in North Dakota.

Holy shit, I was WAY off on what they make. I was thinking they brought in $250k/year.

HPG, what do your guys make?

They get free gas and an unlimited supply crank to keep them going.

[FiatLux]

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.

How much does an Oil Rig Worker make in North Dakota?
As of Jan 6, 2025, the average hourly pay for an Oil Rig Worker in North Dakota is $28.12 an hour.

While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $49.60 and as low as $7.88, the majority of Oil Rig Worker salaries currently range between $16.78 (25th percentile) to $38.41 (75th percentile) in North Dakota.

Holy shit, I was WAY off on what they make. I was thinking they brought in $250k/year.

HPG, what do your guys make?

I laughed.

You really thought they make what doctors make?

Too funny.


Grunt workers are a dime a dozen.

[dan's college room mate]

I really wish they had just stuck with the “finite resource” argument.


That is at least a valid argument. Trouble is a Buncha clever white devils figured out new ways find more oil via fracking.

I just hope TBOM makes a push for modular nukes. They are the solution for now. And yes, let’s put something into fusion researcc


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[Mikey]

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.

How much does an Oil Rig Worker make in North Dakota?
As of Jan 6, 2025, the average hourly pay for an Oil Rig Worker in North Dakota is $28.12 an hour.

While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $49.60 and as low as $7.88, the majority of Oil Rig Worker salaries currently range between $16.78 (25th percentile) to $38.41 (75th percentile) in North Dakota.

Holy shit, I was WAY off on what they make. I was thinking they brought in $250k/year.

HPG, what do your guys make?

I laughed.

You really thought they make what doctors make?

Too funny.


Grunt workers are a dime a dozen.

They have doctors in North Dakota?

I thought they just dropped in at the local barber shop when they got sick.

[Mikey]

I really wish they had just stuck with the “finite resource” argument.


That is at least a valid argument. Trouble is a Buncha clever white devils figured out new ways find more oil via fracking.

I just hope TBOM makes a push for modular nukes. They are the solution for now. And yes, let’s put something into fusion researcc


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Still trying to figure out what TBOM means. The Bank of Missouri? Technical Bill of Materials? The Book of Mormon?

[FiatLux]

They have doctors in North Dakota?

I don't think so. If they got sick and died nobody would miss them

[Sudden Sam]

But it's slightly more than what fast food workers in California make.

https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/O ... 0an%20hour.

How much does an Oil Rig Worker make in North Dakota?
As of Jan 6, 2025, the average hourly pay for an Oil Rig Worker in North Dakota is $28.12 an hour.

While ZipRecruiter is seeing salaries as high as $49.60 and as low as $7.88, the majority of Oil Rig Worker salaries currently range between $16.78 (25th percentile) to $38.41 (75th percentile) in North Dakota.

Holy shit, I was WAY off on what they make. I was thinking they brought in $250k/year.

HPG, what do your guys make?

I laughed.

You really thought they make what doctors make?

Too funny.


Grunt workers are a dime a dozen.

I imagine wind chime salesmen are really raking it in.


Here ya’ go, Mikey:

https://x.com/sheilag2024/status/187779 ... 31409?s=46

[dan's college room mate]

I really wish they had just stuck with the “finite resource” argument.


That is at least a valid argument. Trouble is a Buncha clever white devils figured out new ways find more oil via fracking.

I just hope TBOM makes a push for modular nukes. They are the solution for now. And yes, let’s put something into fusion researcc


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Still trying to figure out what TBOM means. The Bank of Missouri? Technical Bill of Materials? The Book of Mormon?

The Bad Orange Man.

Sorry, I thought that was common knowledge at this point.


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[Softball Bat]

brown outs

brown outs



































What were John Rocker's K's of Eric Davis and Shawon Dunston known as?

[Diego in Seattle]

At this point the Pacific Palisades Fire is at 23,713 acres & all the MAGAts are calling for Newsom to lose his job.

Yet when Texas lost 1,058,482 acres to the Smokehouse Creek Fire last year the Republican crickets were out in force when, if they weren't huge hypocrites, they should have equally called for Abbott to resign.

Y'all can fuck all the way off...

[HighPlainsGrifter]

At this point the Pacific Palisades Fire is at 23,713 acres & all the MAGAts are calling for Newsom to lose his job.

Yet when Texas lost 1,058,482 acres to the Smokehouse Creek Fire last year the Republican crickets were out in force when, if they weren't huge hypocrites, they should have equally called for Abbott to resign.

Y'all can fuck all the way off...

Uh oh. Mikey's gonna lose his mind when he sees this false equivalency. He hates that shit.

[Mikey]

Actually it’s a very apt comparison. But I wouldn’t expect you to know the difference.
Carry on.

[dan's college room mate]

The Texas fire was in a remote area.

30 homes were lost.

How many thousands of homes are we up now in LA, douchebag?


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[Mikey]

Aha. And those 30 homes, and whatever buildings or land were burned up or destroyed weren’t anything worth worrying about. In fact, who even remembers or cares at this point? Thanks for keeping things in perspective. And what do you think about the governors of North Carolina and Tennessee?

[Scott from Anaheim]

More coming out on this worthless organism, Janisse Quinones, head of the LA Department of Water & Power. Here she is in May, 2024 on some blubbering lib podcast discussing DEI at the DWP. Go to the 4:00 mark to hear it yourself but if you can't stomach the commie excrement coming out of her mouth, let me summarize:

She/it was attracted to the CEO job at the DWP because of equity and inclusion: "It's important that everything we do is through an 'equity lens' and 'social justice'."



Well, here's what I see through my "equity lens."



It turns out this reservoir has been empty for nearly a year. This thing had a cover to keep out contaminants (a giant pool cover if your will). The cover had a tear of some sort which needed repair. The repair estimates came in at around $150K and would've only required a month to complete. No doubt Janisse and her "equity lens" were waiting all this time for a bid from the perfect all-black lesbian contracting firm.

I seem to remember a post in this thread by some nutless leftist about this very topic.

At one time this was considered to be the wildfire "off-season." Now that, thanks to what you Republicans call a "hoax," there is no off-season. So go ahead tell us Mr California Wildfire Expert....when should reservoirs be taken offline to perform necessary maintenance?

Seems to me this reservoir has been offline both in AND out of fire season.

As for the origin of the Palisades fire, there is strong evidence it was the result of New Years Eve illegal fireworks up on a ridge there. To their credit, LAFD moved quickly on that fire and had it extinguished after around four hours. Six days later, it appears to have reignited in the same spot when the winds kicked up. Hikers and residents called 911 to report the fire. This time, it took LAFD an hour and a half to get on scene. By the time they arrived, it was mostly out of control. Why the delay when we had been warned days in advance of a "potentially deadly" wind event?

Hmm, a fire in dense brush that could potentially threaten homes? We got this!

[HighHard1]

That's a lesbian three way I'm not clicking on when...ooops...never mind.

[Sudden Sam]

Very obvious what’s important in LA and this is the reason the Democrats are not in the White House anymore. People are sick of this shit.

Competency at your (job) position is what matters…not tonguing ability. No one GARA who or what you do in bed. Just do your fucking job.

[trevvie]

His mother wrote that he was living in a cottage on his family’s large Malibu estate when the fires broke out.

“I couldn’t put out the cinders on his roof with a hose because the water was switched off by Las Virgenes Municipal Water,” she wrote. “Even the 50 brave firefighters had no water all day.”[/i]

Drunk again, eh?

What are you babbling about?

My point was this poor man died for no reason. I can't stop thinking about what he must have gone thru. And how heartbroken his family must be.
This should not have gone down like it did. Unfortunately, the people in charge should have to answer to it.

[The Seer]

But coming from a cowardly little cunt who cut and ran because he couldn't hack it here, this doesn't carry much weight at all.

To whom was that addressed to?

Map Shows Top Five States People Are Leaving and Where They're Going

California, Texas and Florida saw the highest influx and exodus of residents last year, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

The three largest states by population collectively saw an estimated 1.6 million people move in and a similar number move out in 2023, with the Golden State seeing the most movers leaving and the least new arrivals, the Census data showed.

https://www.newsweek.com/map-shows-top- ... ng-1993952

[HighHard1]

But, but, but...climate change.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-news/c ... red-shrub/

But, but, but...stupidity.

[Go Coogs']

Don’t have a dog in this finger pointing fight but this made me snort…




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[StrawMan]

United Way LA County donation link

Please donate if you can.

^^^ This.

[dan's college room mate]

Hey fat boy,

You sound nearly as cunty as Mstool with your “can’t hack it” tough guy jabbering.

Didn’t you bail when the Cali job market took a shit back in the early 90s?

Was that a case of not being able to “hack it”?

No, it was a case of assessing the situation and packing your bags for greener pastures. I did the same to Nashville (shoulda stayed).

That recession was a funny one. The Cold War ending along with big changes in the computer world caused the D&L and U&R economies to crater for a bit. And if LA and NY have a recession, everybody has one.

Anyhoo, things recovered and you got back before the real estate market went nutty.

So, you’re there not because you’re so fukking awesome. You’re there because of good timing.

If you were 40 years old, couple kids and a renter, my guess is you’d get fukking’ tired of hacking it and bail too.

So, can we leave the douchebaggery to Mstool? It’s pretty much all he has.

On to another topic, actually related to this thread. When the fukk are you people going to stop building tinder boxes.

I understand that concrete block construction doesn’t like being jiggled, but stick framing with insulation, air gap and lightweight concrete siding is a thing these days.

Question, how flame retardant are terra cotta roof tiles? I would think they are. Certainly better than asphalt shingles.


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