Fire in Pacific Palisades

[Diego in Seattle]

Fuck. Now there’s a third fire at the north end of town. It’s almost like someone’s running around starting these.

Now why would anyone want to start more fires?

Might it be to get more support for their "it's the climate, stupid" position?

Nahhhhhh, couldn't possibly be that.

So you're saying that arson-started wildfires didn't exist before climate change began?

Can you walk & chew gum simultaneously?

[Mikey]

Fuck. Now there’s a third fire at the north end of town. It’s almost like someone’s running around starting these.

Now why would anyone want to start more fires?

Might it be to get more support for their "it's the climate, stupid" position?

Nahhhhhh, couldn't possibly be that.

The I15 is one of two major north/south routes through the area (the other one being on the coast). Lots of traffic even late at night, and the route in that area is through a valley that can be like a wind tunnel when the wind is blowing in that direction. One of the first things I noticed last night is that the Pala Fire started in almost the exact same spot as a major destructive fire that destroyed several hundred homes in 2007. Likewise, the Lilac fire started probably within a few hundred yards of the fire in 2017 that forced us to evacuate as it burned through the San Luis Rey River valley (Hwy 76). There have been several other fires along that same stretch, though none of them got so big. The wind makes a huge difference.

The winds have died down since early morning. If fact it's dead calm here right now. The Lilac fire perimeter seems to have stabilized and they are reporting 10% containment and "good progress as the fire activity has decreased significantly." Obviously the wind makes a huge difference but I think having daylight helps the crews on the ground as well as the air support. I actually got a few hours of sleep and not quite as worried, but still monitoring things closely. I can't see any smoke on the horizon but there's a faint smell of it. I'll be driving right past there in a couple of hours on the way to getting a bone density scan.

I know that LAFD has taken a lot of, probably deserved, criticism lately but the response and capabilities in our area have improved by orders of magnitude in the past 15 years or so. We have North County Fire Prevention District (NCFPD - the local agency) and CalFire (the state agency) and their efforts are completely RACKable. In the 2007 fire there was no air support at all, that I noticed. The 2017 fire was pretty destructive but could have been a lot worse. I was standing there watching for a while from a few hundred yards away across the highway as the large aircraft were flying a few hundred feet off the ground dropping their pink loads.

The dissemination of information has also made huge improvements. This Watch Duty app (on smartphones and desktop) gives up to the minute updates, plus alerts if you have them turned on, and include images and video from dozens of mountaintop cameras, and detailed maps of evacuation zones. Even the evil SDGE has spent millions of their ratepayer's money on an incredibly efficient weather monitoring system where you can log on and get data and visuals for temperatures, wind speed and direction, weather radar superimposed on satellite images, etc.

[dan's college room mate]

Arson has been around an awful long time. So has climate change.

What is new here is that it has become in the political interest of some to have more fires so they can say it’s all climate related.


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[Mikey]

Another factor in the dangerous fire weather.

[Diego in Seattle]

Another factor in the dangerous fire weather.

I blame Gavin...

[Diego in Seattle]

Some of us want to retain freedom of speech.

Do tell...

[Mikey]

Is there any discussion about maybe making large parts of your home underground?

It has plenty of benefits such as dirt not being terribly flammable. Also reduces heating cooling cost to damn near nothing.

I could see having a place where the majority of the place is underground with a small, very fire resistant section poking above ground.

We should also do more of this in places that don't get all that climate change goodness like my frozen hell hole.

[The Seer]

the San Luis Rey River valley (Hwy 76).

Importantly, we had a couple sales meeting golf tournaments at San Luis Rey golf course (Bonsall) that apparently was closed in 2015 for some reason.

[Mikey]

the San Luis Rey River valley (Hwy 76).

Importantly, we had a couple sales meeting golf tournaments at San Luis Rey golf course (Bonsall) that apparently was closed in 2015 for some reason.

That was a nice course. The land was purchased by the county as part of a master plan to develop a park in the river valley with trails extending from I15 to Oceanside.

Still plenty of golf courses around here. Another one, in Fallbrook, was going to be sold to a home developer but purchased instead by a local family and turned into a winery with a restaurant, event spaces and stuff like that.

[Sudden Sam]

Some of us want to retain freedom of speech.

Do tell...

Fuck Mike Collins.

He’s not the POTUS leaning on media to censor public discourse.

[Diego in Seattle]

Some of us want to retain freedom of speech.

Do tell...

Fuck Mike Collins.

He’s not the POTUS leaning on media to censor public discourse.

No, he's not POTUS.

Think that SOTH Johnson will say anything to Collins, either?

[mvscal]

Some of us want to retain freedom of speech.

Do tell...

Fuck Mike Collins.

He’s not the POTUS leaning on media to censor public discourse.

Who is Mike Collins?

[Sudden Sam]

Do tell...

Fuck Mike Collins.

He’s not the POTUS leaning on media to censor public discourse.

Who is Mike Collins?

Exactly.

[The Seer]

Arson has been around an awful long time. So has climate change.

What is new here is that it has become in the political interest of some to have more fires so they can say it’s all climate related.


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Thousands under evacuation orders in northern LA County in first significant wildfire outbreak since fatal fires

Thousands of Southern California residents were under evacuation orders Wednesday as fire crews battled the out-of-control Hughes Fire near the town of Castaic, a suburb in the foothills and mountains of northern Los Angeles County.

As of 5 p.m., the fire impacting both Los Angeles and Ventura counties had burned more than 9,400 acres and was 0% contained, according to Los Angeles County Fire Department Chief Anthony Marrone. No structures have been reported damaged or destroyed, Maronne said at a Wednesday evening news conference.

“We have over 4,000 firefighting personnel assigned to the incident,” Marrone said, noting the “robust” ground and air response to the fire.

The National Weather Service extended a red flag warning through Friday morning for most of Los Angeles and Ventura counties as moderate Santa Ana winds continue to move through the area, Marrone added.

The unincorporated community of Castaic is about 15 miles northwest of the city of Santa Clarita and borders the Angeles National Forest.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/22/us/h ... index.html


Closer to my old stomping grounds.

[Mikey]

We’re still having some relatively minor fires pop up around SD County, most of them put out pretty quickly. Everything in LA is a lot bigger and much more fucked up than San Diego.

[Diego in Seattle]

We’re still having some relatively minor fires pop up around SD County, most of them put out pretty quickly. Everything in LA is a lot bigger and much more fucked up than San Diego.

That said, the Hughes Fire, which I think is only a day old, has 4,000 firefighters assigned to it.

[The Seer]

WTF. Now Sepulveda pass (the 405) is on fire. Not a lot of info on how all these fires are being started...

Updated Just now
L.A. fire live updates: New fire breaks out along 405 Freeway in Sepulveda Pass
A new fire broke out Wednesday night along the 405 Freeway. The fire was burning on the east side of the 405 Freeway near the Sepulveda Fire Road. Multiple fire engines were on the scene.

https://www.latimes.com/california/live ... -rain-wind

[PL]

is there anything in LA left to burn?

[FiatLux]

is there anything in LA left to burn?

Unfortunately, yes.

Keep praying.

We have more work to do.

[L45B]

Who is Mike Collins?

Great movie.

[Dr_Phibes]

is there anything in LA left to burn?

Only the embers of love.



Great movie

[Diego in Seattle]

From a Faux News interview with Sean Hannity, President Felon had this to say...

And in his first Oval Office interview since returning to power in the White House, Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity this week, "This fire was just raging, and then it would catch to another area, another area, another area."

This fucker doesn't know what spotting is, yet he thinks he's in a position to judge the response to the fire?

[88BuckeyeGrad]

This fucker doesn't know what spotting is, yet he thinks he's in a position to judge the response to the fire?

Unlike you, who has not judged the response to the fire at all.

[Diego in Seattle]

This fucker doesn't know what spotting is, yet he thinks he's in a position to judge the response to the fire?

Unlike you, who has not judged the response to the fire at all.

All things considered, it was pretty good. The first night I streamed KNBC for several hours. What I haven't seen mentioned in many news reports (certainly not Faux News) is that there were firefighters backing away from fighting the fire with water approx. a good 20 minutes before the first report of a hydrant running dry due to the futility of such action as well as the danger (anyone who doubts the last part should feel free to grab a hose in an area that hasn't seen rain in 8 months & fight a fire with hurricane-force winds blowing air with only 10-15% humidity, as said wind starts new fires 3-5 miles behind you). It was also difficult to fight the fire, again because of the winds, from the air. Dropping water with any efficiency while the wind blows the drop all over the place is not the way to go. And while it would have been nice to have had the local reservoir online this fire occurred during a time when the fire season was supposed to be over. What isn't being discussed is how much water was being used by residents (in an overly dense area) with garden hoses as well as private fire hydrants. This might have affected how quickly the water ran out (although with the Eaton Fire I know that the fire knocking out power took out the water pump, so that's why they had problems with water supply). All the other criticisms sounded based more in homophobia & racism rather than facts.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Dude, you kill me. You criticize Drumpf for judging the response to the fire. And then you immediately judge the response to the fire. In deference to our departed Dins, I find you ponderous when I actually take the time to read the shit you post (which is not that often, by the way).

[Sudden Sam]

is there anything in LA left to burn?

Only the embers of love.



Great movie

Checking Netflix…

[HighHard1]

is there anything in LA left to burn?

Only the embers of love.



Great movie

Checking Netflix…

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