Common sense making a comeback

[Mikey]

Trump wants to take over Gaza, force 2 million Palestinians to move to Jordan and Egypt (who don't want them) and turn it into a tourist destination to be owned by the US. And he's willing to send in US troops to do it.

Common sense indeed.

So, Sam, where do you stand today on "warmongering" and keeping our troops out of foreign wars?

I bet Bibi was laughing his ass off all the way back to Jerusalem.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/politics ... index.html

[Rootbeer]

Mikey still doesn't understand Trump. No surprise; he's never tried.

I imagine this will turn out similar to the Great 18 hour Global Trade War of 2/3/25. It'll be over before the NYTimes can get paper spooled into the printer.

Trump doesn't want to take over Gaza. He wants peace and so he's offering Option C which is worse for Israel and Palestine than making peace. He's pulling a King Solomon whom, when presented with a dispute between two women fighting over a baby, offered to cut the baby in half.

[FiatLux]

which is worse for Israel and Palestine

Where is Palestine?

Never heard of that country. Maybe you can link me up?

[Rootbeer]

which is worse for Israel and Palestine

Where is Palestine?

Never heard of that country. Maybe you can link me up?

You're smarter than this. Put in more effort, please.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Trump wants to take over Gaza, force 2 million Palestinians to move to Jordan and Egypt (who don't want them)

[FiatLux]

Judea and Samaria are Israel. As well as Gaza.

Once again, where's this country called Palestine?

[Mikey]

Mikey still doesn't understand Trump. No surprise; he's never tried.

I imagine this will turn out similar to the Great 18 hour Global Trade War of 2/3/25. It'll be over before the NYTimes can get paper spooled into the printer.

Trump doesn't want to take over Gaza. He wants peace and so he's offering Option C which is worse for Israel and Palestine than making peace. He's pulling a King Solomon whom, when presented with a dispute between two women fighting over a baby, offered to cut the baby in half.

Well you may be right. But when the rest of the world gets as smart and observant as you are, how well will that stregery work down the road?

[Innocent Bystander]

which is worse for Israel and Palestine

Where is Palestine?

Never heard of that country. Maybe you can link me up?

Fuck you.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.

People are waking up to the lie which is the Holocaust (tm). They are waking up to the lie which is the false State of Israel. And they are waking up to the lie of you.

[FiatLux]

Make Gaza Great Again.

[mvscal]

Make Gaza Great Again.

And just like that, mstoolsample became a MAGA republican.

[Roux]

People are waking up to the lie which is the Holocaust (tm).

IB you have gone batshit crazy.

What's going on? You didn't used to be this way.

[mvscal]

People are waking up to the lie which is the Holocaust (tm).

IB you have gone batshit crazy.

What's going on? You didn't used to be this way.

She has been radicalized. She's probably waddling around wearing a culturally appropriated keffiyeh shouting braindead leftard slogans and deep diving into whackjob conspiracy theories during neo-Maoist struggle sessions.

[Mikey]

So all of you MAGAts who were so against “nation building” and foreign involvement are completely on board with this because…

…because of the potential for your President to grift some more?

How flexible.

[Sudden Sam]

So, Sam, where do you stand today on "warmongering" and keeping our troops out of foreign wars?

Nothing has changed. Sit back, relax, and observe.

[L45B]

She has been radicalized. She's probably waddling around wearing a culturally appropriated keffiyeh shouting braindead leftard slogans and deep diving into whackjob conspiracy theories during neo-Maoist struggle sessions.

I recently slept with a (cis) female professor at Columbia who fits this description.

And by sleep, I mean we stayed up all night in her tent talking about quotas and oppression. This is the type of diversity (of thought) you will only find in advanced / progressive cities like San Francisco and NYC (14th district especially). Not shitholes like Birmingham and El Paso.

[Mikey]

So, Sam, where do you stand today on "warmongering" and keeping our troops out of foreign wars?

Nothing has changed. Sit back, relax, and observe.

Donny Convict wants to send troops to Panama to solve an imaginary ‘foreign policy crisis’. He wants to send troops to Greenland to plunder their resources. He wants to send troops into Mexico, allegedly to deal with cartels. He even wants to send troops into Canada, if they don’t volunteer to become our 51st state. And now he wants to send troops to the Middle East to commit war crimes and turn Gaza into a Trump tourist destination. But you’re OK with this because it’s just “tactics.”

Wow, you sure have changed your tune. I can’t imagine what your reaction would have been if any other President would have made anything close to such threats. Someone who at one time considered anyone supporting Harris to be a war monger just because she also was endorsed by Dick Cheney. I couldn’t put enough rolleyes emojis in this post to do justice to your hypocrisy.

[Innocent Bystander]

And by sleep, I mean we stayed up all night in her tent talking about quotas and oppression. This is the type of diversity (of thought) you will only find in advanced / progressive cities like San Francisco and NYC (14th district especially). Not shitholes like Birmingham and El Paso.

You sound like a PG rated version of Salad Tosser.

[Roux]

Donny Convict wants to send troops to Panama to solve an imaginary ‘foreign policy crisis’. He wants to send troops to Greenland to plunder their resources. He wants to send troops into Mexico, allegedly to deal with cartels. He even wants to send troops into Canada, if they don’t volunteer to become our 51st state. And now he wants to send troops to the Middle East to commit war crimes and turn Gaza into a Trump tourist destination. But you’re OK with this because it’s just “tactics.” the cult leader says so.

[Innocent Bystander]

Donny Convict wants to send troops to Panama to solve an imaginary ‘foreign policy crisis’.
Trump is very put up or shut up. Unlike the Democrats, who will kick the can down the alley for years with 'studies' and 'committees' in order to avoid making a decision, Trump is just like 'fuck it'. He was probably making a point to someone.

He wants to send troops to Greenland to plunder their resources.
Same deal: he's making a point to someone.

He wants to send troops into Mexico, allegedly to deal with cartels.
The US has invaded other countries for less reason. Mexico is a bonafide threat, and the Mexican people have told Americans they don't want to be Americans, they want to be Mexicans reconquering the American Southwest for Mexico.
It wasn't muslims or Reds who sent an invading army, it was Mexico.

The only reason not to do it is Vietnam, and the very real possibility of a humiliating loss to Mexico. Mexicans are not going to fight for America. They are going to fight for Mexico. They are not Americans. They're Mexicans.

He even wants to send troops into Canada, if they don’t volunteer to become our 51st state.
Theater. Canada is a British Commonwealth.
The US can't even extradite Prince Andrew for fucking underaged white trash. The US can't touch Canada, only make its life more difficult (or better) by proximity.

And now he wants to send troops to the Middle East to commit war crimes and turn Gaza into a Trump tourist destination.
AIPAC. What Israel wants, Israel gets. Journalists connected the dots immediately after 10/7, regarding Gaza and what Israel had laid claim to months before without consulting the Gazan people. Trump isn't the one who should be condemned, Israel is.

Trump gets to bear the backlash which belongs to Israel, and he is bearing it willingly.

But you’re OK with this because it’s just “tactics.”

Wow, you sure have changed your tune. I can’t imagine what your reaction would have been if any other President would have made anything close to such threats. Someone who at one time considered anyone supporting Harris to be a war monger just because she also was endorsed by Dick Cheney. I couldn’t put enough rolleyes emojis in this post to do justice to your hypocrisy.

Sam was right not to support the drunk Brahmin prostitute pretending to be a sistah-gurl.

[Innocent Bystander]

So all of you MAGAts who were so against “nation building” and foreign involvement are completely on board with this because…

…because of the potential for your President to grift some more?

How flexible.

Anerica First. There are more MAGA and MAHA who want Trump to tell Israel No, than there are MIGApedes pulling a Mike Johnson willing to destroy the US if it makes Israel that much greater. But Trump answers to jews, not the Constitution and not God - just like everyone else who doesn't want to be broken like Kanye, Chapelle or Gibson. A truly independent politician has to be really charismatic on top of really driven to survive outside the uniparty system. Too many bodies on that road.

[Innocent Bystander]

People are waking up to the lie which is the Holocaust (tm).

IB you have gone batshit crazy.

What's going on? You didn't used to be this way.

She has been radicalized. She's probably waddling around wearing a culturally appropriated keffiyeh shouting braindead leftard slogans and deep diving into whackjob conspiracy theories during neo-Maoist struggle sessions.

We're all polite in person. I like the net because we don't have to be polite online.

Jewish persons (because they are not hebrews, they are mimics who have forgotten they are mimics - shout out to Silverberg and Wolfe) diminish the centuries long Triangular Trade and sincerely believe that the lives destroyed by its institution are of little import compared to couple years The Holocaust (tm). Except the Holocaust never happenened.

There were no six million jewish persons executed in concentration camps for merely being jewish. It is a post-war propaganda lie, propped up by habitual liars, who have a millenia long reputation for both lying and placing themselves as victims, and for casting their victims as villains.

Egypt.
Haman.
The Gazans.
Jesus Himself.

Occam's Razor says that a people who put that much effort into villifying the innocent won't suddenly change up for a single specific event.

The Holocaust never happened. We get fictionalized re-tellings, and museums in places where jewish persons barely exist and local atrocities are happily buried beneath the shame of 'it's better to forget'. But we don't get truth.

Jewish persons don't want us discussing the Holocaust, because that would mean unraveling the lies of numbers, and the lies of why the War was fought in the first place.

It's hard to remain a victim, if you place yourself in a position to be accountable for how you ended up as a 'victim' in the first place. That is where jewish persons are.

In 400 years, the Gazans will be re-cast as evil aggressors who were violently stealing land from jewish persons who only offered peace. Jewish persons lie. Israel lies. The Holocaust is a lie. Pathological liars don't suddenly tell the truth, they just get better at dressing up their lies.

Jewish persons are an ethnicity of practiced pathological liars. They're good at it, the very best, because they simultaneously wholeheartedly believe their own lies, and yet know they are lying.

[Innocent Bystander]

People are waking up to the lie which is the Holocaust (tm).

IB you have gone batshit crazy.

I get it, more than you know. It's dangerous to speak, because they will destroy your life for speaking, for thinking. It's dangerous. Like being a slave who gets caught merely looking at a fellow person who is also enslaved but is from a plantation with a failed insurrection behind it.

Association is a bitch, in dangerous times.

I had a fruitless online conversation with an Israeli this weekend. I figure they're Israeli, because jewish persons don't hit the eject button for the same subjects Christians do. The subject was October 7 and how many Gazans have died since then.

Apparently, Israelis will never admit to killing Gazans. Every death is the result of Hamas, therefore it's impossible that any Israeli is responsible for any Gazan's death. Israel isn't killing Gazans. Hamas is. Accusing Israel of killing Gazans is anti-semitism and pro-terrorist propaganda.

Example: June 2024 Nuseirat camp - the IDF is responsible for rescuing four Israelis, Hamas is responsible for killing 274 Palestinians during that rescue.

They are liars. If they are willing to lie about something which happened last year, then they are willing to lie about a holocaust which never happened.

[Roux]

Anytime you go 'all _____ are ____', you're wrong. All blacks are criminals, all Mexicans are lazy, all Jews are liars. Whatever, it is all wrong, and you know that.

And what the fuck is this denying the Holocaust?? Have you lost your mind? That is literally flat earth territory, the Holocaust is exceptionally well-documented, thanks in significant part to the Germans themselves.

Again, you're too smart for this nonsense. Have you fallen in with Louis Farrakhan? I'm struggling to find some explanation for this.

[mvscal]

There were no six million jewish persons executed in concentration camps for merely being jewish. It is a post-war propaganda lie, propped up by habitual liars, who have a millenia long reputation for both lying and placing themselves as victims, and for casting their victims as villains. The Holocaust never happened.

So, who are these people? I could post pictures like this all fucking day. When Gen. Eisenhower was made aware of the scope of these atrocities he ordered everything to be meticulously documented because he could foresee nutjob lunatics like you denying that it ever happened. He wasn't even a Cal Bear. He was a West Pointer from Texas. Too fucking bad. The proof is abundant and utterly undeniable.







Who are they, you piece of fucking shit?

Jewish persons don't want us discussing the Holocaust, because that would mean unraveling the lies of numbers, and the lies of why the War was fought in the first place.

Really? Is that why there are Holocaust museums all over the place? Because they want to keep something that allegedly didn't even happen a secret? There isn't even any internal logic in your delusion. You are certifiably insane.

[mvscal]

So all of you MAGAts who were so against “nation building” and foreign involvement are completely on board with this because…

…because of the potential for your President to grift some more?

And what nation building or foreign involvement are you referring to?

[Mikey]

So all of you MAGAts who were so against “nation building” and foreign involvement are completely on board with this because…

…because of the potential for your President to grift some more?

And what nation building or foreign involvement are you referring to?

Forgive my misuse of the term “nation building.” I should have said stealing land from other nations by force, whether it’s military force or political. And don’t try to tell me that’s not what he’s suggesting in Canada, Greenland, Panama and, particularly, Gaza.

[L45B]

Jewish persons are an ethnicity of practiced pathological liars. They're good at it, the very best, because they simultaneously wholeheartedly believe their own lies, and yet know they are lying.

My ex-wife is Jewish and is definitely a pathological liar and also likely bipolar, hypochondriac, has OCD and borderline personality disorder.

However, her two brothers were always very nice and generous people, always motivated by doing the right thing, despite the lunacy that lives inside their sister’s warped brain.

Your statements are likely inaccurate. Though I will say, every single Palestinian I’ve met (near Columbia U.) is nice, giving and welcoming to their campus.

[Mikey]

I assume you’re old enough to remember what happened last time a Republican President (along with Sam’s old friend Dick Cheney) tried to reshape part of the middle east, justifying it with outright lies. Thousands of lives lost over the past two decades, billions of dollars in cash and hardware flushed to criminal regimes. And how did that end? It hasn’t. Iraq is still a quagmire and Afghanistan is still run by the Taliban. And you think Trump’s idea of creating a new Riviera for his personal profit will go any better? Please.

[mvscal]

So all of you MAGAts who were so against “nation building” and foreign involvement are completely on board with this because…

…because of the potential for your President to grift some more?

And what nation building or foreign involvement are you referring to?

Forgive my misuse of the term “nation building.” I should have said stealing land from other nations by force, whether it’s military force or political. And don’t try to tell me that’s not what he’s suggesting in Canada, Greenland, Panama and, particularly, Gaza.

I missed the part where anything is being proposed to be "stolen" by force. Can you help me out there?

[Rootbeer]

Mikey still doesn't understand Trump. No surprise; he's never tried.

I imagine this will turn out similar to the Great 18 hour Global Trade War of 2/3/25. It'll be over before the NYTimes can get paper spooled into the printer.

Trump doesn't want to take over Gaza. He wants peace and so he's offering Option C which is worse for Israel and Palestine than making peace. He's pulling a King Solomon whom, when presented with a dispute between two women fighting over a baby, offered to cut the baby in half.

Well you may be right. But when the rest of the world gets as smart and observant as you are, how well will that stregery work down the road?

Trump is transactional and he always starts from a maximal position. I can't be blamed if the rest of the world hasn't figured that out yet.

I think you and others are sensing a risk in Trump bluffing at such high stakes. You're not wrong. Trump is a fool if he thinks he can bluff his way through every interaction. That's why he follows through often enough to make sure people take him seriously. The recent bombings of ISIS, for example. He said they were going to get rekk'd and then he rekk'd em. Putting people in Gitmo as another example.

He says wild stuff 10 times, follows through on five things and negotiates the other five. Eventually his opponents figure out it's better to be one of the five that negotiates.

[The Seer]

Trump signs executive order banning MEN from competing in WOMEN's sports.




Biden watching from his assisted living quarters drooling about all those kids hair he could've smelled.....

[Mikey]

Mikey still doesn't understand Trump. No surprise; he's never tried.

I imagine this will turn out similar to the Great 18 hour Global Trade War of 2/3/25. It'll be over before the NYTimes can get paper spooled into the printer.

Trump doesn't want to take over Gaza. He wants peace and so he's offering Option C which is worse for Israel and Palestine than making peace. He's pulling a King Solomon whom, when presented with a dispute between two women fighting over a baby, offered to cut the baby in half.

Well you may be right. But when the rest of the world gets as smart and observant as you are, how well will that stregery work down the road?

Trump is transactional and he always starts from a maximal position. I can't be blamed if the rest of the world hasn't figured that out yet.

I think you and others are sensing a risk in Trump bluffing at such high stakes. You're not wrong. Trump is a fool if he thinks he can bluff his way through every interaction. That's why he follows through often enough to make sure people take him seriously. The recent bombings of ISIS, for example. He said they were going to get rekk'd and then he rekk'd em. Putting people in Gitmo as another example.

He says wild stuff 10 times, follows through on five things and negotiates the other five. Eventually his opponents figure out it's better to be one of the five that negotiates.

Yeah I do actually get it. All that the Mexicans and Canadians had to do is make some nebulous promises, due in 30 days, that they can renege on, probably with no consequences, or kick the can further down the road. They’re off the hook for now, Trump gets what he wants, which are some headlines that make him seem like a tough negotiator. Everything is back to where it was and the brainwashed MAGAts are even more convinced that Dear Leader has been consecrated by God and GOd. I guess we’ll see how long this kind of BS keeps working.

[Sudden Sam]

Mikey, as has already been noted by others:

Trump is a negotiator. He’s not going into Greenland or Canada. He’s gaining leverage.

Mexico and Canada backed down like he expected.

Panama was a legit possibility for action if they hadn’t rebuffed China. A necessity for our security there. We can’t allow the canal to be controlled in any manner by the Chinese.

Gaza? Who knows what he’s thinking there?! But we won’t have troops there.

[mvscal]

Yeah I do actually get it. All that the Mexicans and Canadians had to do is make some nebulous promises, due in 30 days,

That is where your head is stuck up your ass. He isn't playing and he isn't bluffing. One of these days you dumbfucks will figure that out.

Mexico made a promise, nebulous or otherwise, to undertake certain actions. President Trump granted them a 30 day grace period to make good on those promises. That is being perfectly reasonable. If, after that 30 day period expires without positive movement, the tariff hammer will be dropped. Count on it and it will hurt them a fuck of a lot more than it will hurt us.

Look at the trade deficits. We are the largest market on planet Earth. We are the economic sun upon which the world revolves. There isn't even a close second. If you want to sell your shit here, you will do it on our terms. That is leverage. It's about time that we utilize that leverage to our advantage. Wakey, wakey

[HighHard1]

Look at the trade deficits. We are the largest market on planet Earth. We are the economic sun upon which the world revolves. There isn't even a close second. If you want to sell your shit here, you will do it on our terms. That is leverage. It's about time that we utilize that leverage to our advantage. Wakey, wakey

The motherfucking world revolves the United States. We HAVE that leverage...and we have a leader that will use it...doesn't take balls to do it...it takes, dare I say it, common sense.

[Python]

all Mexicans are lazy

We’ll that’s just not true.

[Innocent Bystander]

Anytime you go 'all _____ are ____', you're wrong. All blacks are criminals, all Mexicans are lazy, all Jews are liars. Whatever, it is all wrong, and you know that.

And what the fuck is this denying the Holocaust?? Have you lost your mind? That is literally flat earth territory, the Holocaust is exceptionally well-documented, thanks in significant part to the Germans themselves.

Again, you're too smart for this nonsense. Have you fallen in with Louis Farrakhan? I'm struggling to find some explanation for this.

This is t1b, Roux. All ____ are ____. Y'all get to joke around with it. I get to mean it. Thirty years and counting.

Six million jewish persons didn't die in a German directed Holocaust. The Holocaust was not the worst tragedy in human history. Hitler is not Satan himself, he is not the worst human being who ever lived. By exaggerating the sins of WW2, and using those exaggerations to bleed the rest of the world dry, jewish persons have overplayed their hand. It was a big gambit, but they didn't invent the concept of chutzpah -- going hard or going home -- for nothing.

They lied, Roux. It was a lie so grand, so odious, so unthinkable, it can't be unravelled without unravelling status quo itself.

They are evil, Roux.

The Civil War was so well-documented, US Grant had his reputation sullied, the role of jews in the slave trade was replaced with 'whites', and blacks were erased entirely because the War of Northern Aggression was strictly about tariffs for 140 years after the fact.

The world is a sphere, which expands and contracts like a single chambered heart on a scale beyond our timeline. One day yhis little molten rock will stop expanding and contracting, and that is the day Gaia dies.

Louis Farrakhan is a lot of things, but he's right about whites, and he's right about jewish persons.

But I'm being negative. You're a glass half-full person. What is a thing you're grateful for, which you wouldn't have in your life without jewish persons?

[Mikey]

Bagels with cream cheese, lox, some red onion and capers.
I’ll always be grateful for that.

[Innocent Bystander]

all Mexicans are lazy

We’ll that’s just not true.

Some Mexicans are bitching because they're the only ones out in force protesting. They were expecting more inter-ethnic support.

So...where are the Cuban flags? the Haitian? the Dominicans? the Salvadorans? The Guatamalans and Colombians and Venezuelians?

Where are the Chinese flags, the Indian flags, the Bangladeshi and Filipinos?

Where are the arrogant Nigerians and Ghanians, the Somalians and the Eritreans?

Where are the Afghani and Ukrainian and Russians?

It's the Mexicans, all alone. Doing the work other illegal aliens refuse to do.

[mvscal]

Where are the arrogant Nigerians and Ghanians,

Going to work, I would expect. I had some Ghanaian neighbors when I lived in town. They were great people and wizards on the grill. I'm not sure they even used their oven. The weren't very impressed with American negroes to say the least.