Interesting little article about Joe Wilson

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:34 pm

Move on, nothing interesting to see here.

http://www.freep.com/news/nw/leak26e_20051026.htm

Cheney's name is cited in CIA case

Vice president revealed agent identity to aide, report says:

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:43 pm

Asked whether Bush had confidence in Cheney, McClellan replied that "the vice president is doing a great job" and Bush "appreciates all that he's doing."

Ouch! That's gotta hurt.

sin

Michael Brown

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:07 pm

Not only did Wilson blatantly lie about who sent him to Niger, he also lied about what he reported back to the CIA.

Wilson only determined that no sale of enriched uranium was ever completed, while also confirming that Iraq, indeed, attempted to purchase it from Niger just as Bush said in citing British intelligence. Wilson lied about that in his NYT op-ed claiming that he had debunked the administration's claim that Iraq sought to purchase that shit.

The Senate Select Intelligence Committee completely undermined Wilson's credibility...I wonder if they will be indicted for conspiring to discredit Wilson, too?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:37 pm

DrDetroit wrote:Not only did Wilson blatantly lie about who sent him to Niger, he also lied about what he reported back to the CIA.

Wilson only determined that no sale of enriched uranium was ever completed, while also confirming that Iraq, indeed, attempted to purchase it from Niger just as Bush said in citing British intelligence. Wilson lied about that in his NYT op-ed claiming that he had debunked the administration's claim that Iraq sought to purchase that shit.

The Senate Select Intelligence Committee completely undermined Wilson's credibility...I wonder if they will be indicted for conspiring to discredit Wilson, too?

and what exactly does any of this have to do with whether or not the Bush Administration was responsible for outting Plame?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:47 pm

mvscal wrote: What part of Wilson lied about who sent him to Africa are you struggling to comprehend?

He was not sent by Cheney. He was sent by his wife.

Again, what does that have to do with them outting Plame?

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:50 pm

Felix wrote:and what exactly does any of this have to do with whether or not the Bush Administration was responsible for outting Plame?

First, Plame had already been outted by the CIA years before...twice (I've linked to this story before).

Second, Wilson's Who's Who online biography had already identified his wife as a CIA employee.

Third, Joe Wilson identified his wife as a CIA employee in an interview with The Nation's David Corn and Corn published excerpts of that interview, including noting Plame's prior covert status...before Novak printed his article citing administration officials.

That's three different (four counting the two times the CIA outted her) that Plame's CIA employment status was "outted" before Rove or Libby told reporters that Wilson's wife, a CIA employee, had a hand in getting Wilson dispatched to Niger.

Now, do you want to dispute any of this Felix? Or are you going to continue sucking off the media's totally inaccurate portrait of this event?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:09 pm

What I'm hearing in the news AND talking head shows is the following:

1. No crime was committed as it pertains to Plame's former life as a covert op.

2. The crimes, for which Rove, Libby and Cheney will be indicted will fall under the class of "lying to a grand jury". Sound familiar ?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:17 pm

DrDetroit wrote: First, Plame had already been outted by the CIA years before...twice (I've linked to this story before).

Second, Wilson's Who's Who online biography had already identified his wife as a CIA employee.

Third, Joe Wilson identified his wife as a CIA employee in an interview with The Nation's David Corn and Corn published excerpts of that interview, including noting Plame's prior covert status...before Novak printed his article citing administration officials.

That's three different (four counting the two times the CIA outted her) that Plame's CIA employment status was "outted" before Rove or Libby told reporters that Wilson's wife, a CIA employee, had a hand in getting Wilson dispatched to Niger.

Now, do you want to dispute any of this Felix? Or are you going to continue sucking off the media's totally inaccurate portrait of this event?

Obviously, they've got nothing to worry about then.......

Seriously, you need to calm down there tiger.........

mvscal wrote:
It's called setting the record straight, dumbfuck.

Thanks asseyes........

Like I said, they've got nothing to worry about.......

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:25 pm

Obviously, they've got nothing to worry about then.......

Seriously, you need to calm down there tiger.........

You're right...there shouldn't be anything to worry about. However, the mainstream media has done its best to ignore those facts I stated above and continue to blatantly lie about Wilson's conclusions re: Iraq/Niger uranium connection to protect their view of Wilson as a courageous whistleblower.

Secondly, how is stating the facts considered being something other than calm? Is it because you were "outted" as a know-nothing on this issue that you feel cornered and felt compelled to lash out?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:40 pm

DrDetroit wrote: Secondly, how is stating the facts considered being something other than calm? Is it because you were "outted" as a know-nothing on this issue that you feel cornered and felt compelled to lash out?

Lash out? I said they've obviously got nothing to worry about.....

DrDetroit wrote:
Or are you going to continue sucking off the media's totally inaccurate portrait of this event?

Thanks for reminding me that you and Bri have turned this forum into a steaming pile of dogshit.........and why I don't post in here anymore.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:46 pm

Dr.D Wrote:
However, the mainstream media has done its best to ignore those facts I stated above and continue to blatantly lie about Wilson's conclusions.

You can't blame the main stream media for trying to even out the lies.

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:46 pm

Lash out? I said they've obviously got nothing to worry about.....

You lashed out at me, Felix, telling me to calm down as though I was something other than that. You know exactly what I am talking about, don't front.

Thanks for reminding me that you and Bri have turned this forum into a steaming pile of dogshit.........and why I don't post in here anymore.

I'm real sorry, Felix... :roll:

You don't post here because your arguments suck most of the time.

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:47 pm

tough love wrote:
Dr.D Wrote:
However, the mainstream media has done its best to ignore those facts I stated above and continue to blatantly lie about Wilson's conclusions.

You can't blame the main stream media for trying to even out the lies.

And what "lies" would those be?

Uh, Wilson confirmed that Iraq attempted to purchase uranium from Niger...just as President Bush said British intelligence had learned.

LMAO!!!

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:12 pm

DrDetroit wrote:You don't post here because your arguments suck most of the time.

Wrong. The reason I don't post is because you and others of your ilk have no interest in opposing views.......you're just looking for another reason to suck off the Bushites.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:13 pm

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:26 pm

Felix wrote:
DrDetroit wrote:You don't post here because your arguments suck most of the time.
Wrong. The reason I don't post is because you and others of your ilk have no interest in opposing views.......you're just looking for another reason to suck off the Bushites.

no interest in opposing views?

wtd do you think goes in here except for the exchange and debate of views, assface?

and there you go, again...yeah, I suck off Bush...allt the time, :roll: .

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:26 pm

tl, the suck has been duly noted.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:15 pm

DrDetroit wrote: yeah, I suck off Bush...allt the time......

the first step to curing a problem is recognizing that in fact you do indeed have a problem.

congrats on taking that first step.........

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:21 pm

Now I know why I suck...I just don't have these ^^^ compelling smack takes... :roll:

Seriously, why even respond that way? Is that shit funny to you? Do you find humor in that response?

Oh, I know...you want bring out the real smack because it's me you're dealing with, blah, blah, blah.

But that's bullshit, too, since you regularly (as do many others here) make use of this type of response.

Get the fuck out of here already or post a take.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:25 pm

DrDetroit wrote:Now I know why I suck...I just don't have these ^^^ compelling smack takes... :roll:

Seriously, why even respond that way? Is that shit funny to you? Do you find humor in that response?

Oh, I know...you want bring out the real smack because it's me you're dealing with, blah, blah, blah.

But that's bullshit, too, since you regularly (as do many others here) make use of this type of response.

Get the fuck out of here already or post a take.

Lighten the fuck up Detwit. I'd think that ass-kicking you got the other day in the Main Street forum would have wised you up, but I can see that it hasn't.

Nobody likes to read your drivel because you've got absolutely no sense of humor, you take this shit waaaaaaaayyyyy too seriously, and you're way to young to be such a bitter fucking bitch.

Here's a heads up mook, you're not fucking interesting enough to warrant having hit the submit button 6,100 times. You're not interesting enough to have hit the submit button at all. Your a feckless tard that has an opinion and believes that every human on earth is deserving to know what that opinion is. Having read your bullshit for all of these years, I know what your response is before you do. You know what that makes you?

Predictable.........which is the worst thing to be when posting at places like this......

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:45 pm

Lighten the fuck up Detwit. I'd think that ass-kicking you got the other day in the Main Street forum would have wised you up, but I can see that it hasn't.

There you go, again... :roll:

I see how it works...you lash out at me and when I call you out, I'm the one who needs to lighten up? Don't play dumb.

Nobody likes to read your drivel because you've got absolutely no sense of humor, you take this shit waaaaaaaayyyyy too seriously, and you're way to young to be such a bitter fucking bitch.

No one likes to read little snide third-grader responses from some know-nothing.

Here's a heads up mook, you're not fucking interesting enough to warrant having hit the submit button 6,100 times. You're not interesting enough to have hit the submit button at all. Your a feckless tard that has an opinion and believes that every human on earth is deserving to know what that opinion is. Having read your bullshit for all of these years, I know what your response is before you do. You know what that makes you?

How is posting on an anonymous internet message board indicative of me believing that every person in the world deserves to hear my opinion?

Do you need a paper bag? Yet, I'm the one who needs to lighten up? I'm not the guy blowing up here...you are, my friend. You're the guy who has to inaccurately generalize my posting and then attribute some sense of entitlement to me.

As for knowing my response...you can't possibly. You can't even accurately characterize my posting.

You may go now, Felix, before you get admonished for violating forum rules ('sup Bushice?)... :roll:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:57 pm

DrDetroit wrote:
There you go, again... :roll:

I see how it works...you lash out at me and when I call you out, I'm the one who needs to lighten up? Don't play dumb.

No one likes to read little snide third-grader responses from some know-nothing.

See right here, I lob you softballs that any self respecting member of this board with any degree of humor would park like Barry Bonds, and you go and get all serious on me.

How is posting on an anonymous internet message board indicative of me believing that every person in the world deserves to hear my opinion?

Do you need a paper bag? Yet, I'm the one who needs to lighten up? I'm not the guy blowing up here...you are, my friend. You're the guy who has to inaccurately generalize my posting and then attribute some sense of entitlement to me.

As for knowing my response...you can't possibly. You can't even accurately characterize my posting.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA some of the funniest stuff you've ever posted.

Who says you have no sense of humor......

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:03 pm

Are you still here? Embarrassed and tattered like (insert yet another description of a vagina) you come limping back in here like (insert lame homo reset)...props, you take your punches as well as (insert lame Guy Fawkes reset).

Is that better? :roll:

No, you didn't lob any softball at all, you brought your best zingers to describe me on this board and I merely demonstrated that you're the one hyperventalating.

Bye-bye, tough guy.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:21 pm

Oh it's the old--"I'm kicking your ass" ploy

Nice try, but I've already laid out why I avoid you like the plague.
Get a sense of humor and we'll talk......

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:26 pm

Then your 'tard avoidance system is busted, Felix...just sayin.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:48 pm

DrDetroit wrote:Then your 'tard avoidance system is busted, Felix...just sayin.

So your calling yourself a tard?

Did I say you didn't have a sense of humor.........

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:52 pm

For someone posing as though they have this great sense of humor...why did you have to confirm what I posted there? :roll:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:08 pm

DrDetroit wrote:For someone posing as though they have this great sense of humor...why did you have to confirm what I posted there? :roll:

I suppose that in this statement there maybe something that makes sense.......

How long have you been writing gibberish?

Is it tough to learn?

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:31 pm

Why even bother, Felix?

No matter what is said; and by so many, DD will continue to drone on and on and on and on and on and on and on until your scroll wheel up and slaps you the side of the head in protest.

Cut him loose, Bro, and Props to you for at least trying where so many others before you have simply given up.

Keeping the :) alive since never - Dr D.

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:53 pm

Felix wrote:
DrDetroit wrote:For someone posing as though they have this great sense of humor...why did you have to confirm what I posted there? :roll:
I suppose that in this statement there maybe something that makes sense.......

How long have you been writing gibberish?

Is it tough to learn?

What are you having difficulty with?

You're posing as though you have a great sense of humor and are a judge of whether someone has a sense of humor.

If that is true, why would you feel it necessary to ask about this, "Then your 'tard avoidance system is busted, Felix...just sayin."

Sheesh, I make a funny, then you have to get all serious, :roll:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:26 pm

DrDetroit wrote:
What are you having difficulty with?

For someone posing as though they have this great sense of humor...why did you have to confirm what I posted there?

Okay, I got the "someone posing as though they have this great sense of humor", but what did I confirm and exactly where is "there".

You're posing as though you have a great sense of humor and are a judge of whether someone has a sense of humor.

I'm not posing, I truly do have a sense of humor....but I'm not "judging" whether somebody has a sense of humor or not. The fact is that you've never written anything that I've ever read that I consider to be even remotely humorous......

Sheesh, I make a funny, then you have to get all serious, :roll:

That was your attempt at humor?

YIKES.........

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:44 pm

Seriously...how do you get by in life with your reading skills...errr...lack thereof?

I posted, "Then your 'tard avoidance system is busted, Felix...just sayin" and yet, as someone who believes that he has a sense of humor, you had to ask about that statement.

Yes, dolt, that was self-deprecating humor. You've called me a 'tard before and you had just posted that you avoid me like the plague hence, I ran with it by posting, "Then your 'tard avoidance system is busted, Felix...just sayin."

WTF was there to ask about, dolt?

Seriously.

I haven't seen someone actually fuck up someone else's attempt at making fun of themselves.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:50 pm

Oh okay, now I get it, that was some sort of attempt at self deprecation

......it just wasn't funny.

Care to try again???????

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:33 pm

Felix, that's interesting because you posted right after that, "Did I say you didn't have a sense of humor........."

So which is it, 'tard?

It's funny, but then it's not?

Are you finished tying yourself up? If you need a hand getting out of that mess, just let me know.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:03 pm

DrDetroit wrote: It's funny, but then it's not?

No, it wasn't funny at all......

Try again?

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:59 pm

Arguing with yourself...again?

Dude, you're burying yourself in here...

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:44 pm

DrDetroit wrote: Dude, you're burying yourself in here...

Dude, you're a fucking moron.

Nobody is reading this except for you and me.

You just don't get the fact that people AVOID you purposely.

Seeing as you are incapable of being humorous, you are hereby dismissed........

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:14 pm

Incapable of being humorous? You just posted in here that what I said was funny.

Then, you said it wasn't funny.

Which is it? Make up your mind. You're still arguing with yourself.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:19 pm

DrDetroit wrote:Incapable of being humorous? You just posted in here that what I said was funny.

Link?

Then, you said it wasn't funny.

Wherein did I say it was funny? You're not referring to that "Did I say you didn't have a sense of humor" comment are you? Here let me finish it.......

Did I say you didn't have a sense of humor--I meant it.

Fuck bud, you should stick with trying to be serious.....comedy gold I tell ya.