Bush needs a blanket and some warm milk

[Gunslinger]

His feelings were hurt :(

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/26/ ... index.html

"You cannot pick and choose where to enforce that rule. It's important that the seal or any White House insignia not be used inappropriately," he said.

Some other cases of were our government failed to act:



This impersonator had a terrible tv show on Comedy Central



Independance day is one of the worst movies ever made, except for that Volcano movie about the volcano in LA. Or that piece of shit Twister, or that piece of shit The Day After, you get the point, the production company owned by Fox produces that fucking garbage and they are probably paid to include the presidents seal.

Does anyone still support this administration anymore? Who the fuck are you and remember to look over your shoulder and don't speak your political opinion, it's getting violent out there.

This isn't really about politics but freedom of speech. Anyone still have that picture of Fatsak busting a nut on a president's seal pog? I'm very proud of you!

[BBMarley]

His feelings were hurt :(

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/26/ ... index.html

"You cannot pick and choose where to enforce that rule. It's important that the seal or any White House insignia not be used inappropriately," he said.

Some other cases of were our government failed to act:



This impersonator had a terrible tv show on Comedy Central



Independance day is one of the worst movies ever made, except for that Volcano movie about the volcano in LA. Or that piece of shit Twister, or that piece of shit The Day After, you get the point, the production company owned by Fox produces that fucking garbage and they are probably paid to include the presidents seal.

Does anyone still support this administration anymore? Who the fuck are you and remember to look over your shoulder and don't speak your political opinion, it's getting violent out there.

This isn't really about politics but freedom of speech. Anyone still have that picture of Fatsak busting a nut on a president's seal pog? I'm very proud of you!

He's not even mentioned in the article.... I don't really like the guy- but why do you insist on this type of shite? If the man does something wrong-definitley bring it to light... but this is bullshit news and you're a bigger cunt rag for making a big deal out of it.

[Bizzarofelice]

why do you insist on this type of shite?

Cause you're a faggot.

[Gunslinger]

88Marley:

Hmm.....

Let's see, Bush is in the job position that the seal describes and everyone in the White House is working for him and under him. Obviously the cease and desist had to come from those that are in charge of the protecting the president as Chief of State, so it's safe to say the same people who work under Karl Rove are the people who did this.

So, again Bush is a fuck! And you supporting this anti-American hero, who is hated by all military veteran politicians, clearly leaves you in the clueless category of Americans. Please, next time don't vote. Republicans are always preaching about how only the educated should be allowed to vote, then that's great because 60% of Bush's support made under the national median average income and were in the majority category of lacking IQ.

Dumb and pussies, yep that's Bushs electorate.

[Mister Bushice]

why the fuck is it a surprise to anyone that this Bush admenstruation continues to try and suppress negative opinions about it?

[Tom In VA]

Pathetic.

[DrDetroit]

why the fuck is it a surprise to anyone that this Bush admenstruation continues to try and suppress negative opinions about it?

Yeah, the Onion is a real source of information, eh?

Pathetic.

[Tom In VA]

Key words for the maxi pad wearers among us.

The White House is not amused by The Onion, a newspaper that often spoofs the Bush administration, and has asked it to stop using the presidential seal on its Web site.

....

"When any official sign or seal is being used inappropriately the party is notified," Duffy said.

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"I've been seeing the presidential seal used in comedy programs most of my life and to my knowledge none of them have been asked not to use it by the White House," Dikkers said.

So maybe Dikkers, and the like would need to present some FACTS that outline that The Onion is the ONLY comedy venue ever asked to not use the seal.

Now if they're ORDERED, HARASSED, or otherwise compelled through unconstitutional means to not use it, let me know.

[BSmack]

So maybe Dikkers, and the like would need to present some FACTS that outline that The Onion is the ONLY comedy venue ever asked to not use the seal.

It is impossible to prove a negative. That is why you are innocent until PROVEN guilty in this country. However, I have seen the Presidential Seal used and or mimiced since Chevy Chase was funny. And never have I seen the White House react in this way. Even Nixon took a joke better than the Bushites.

Now if they're ORDERED, HARASSED, or otherwise compelled through unconstitutional means to not use it, let me know.

When the WHite House sends a cease and desist letter, this is a form of harassment. It indicates an offical condemnation. We'll see about them compelling the Onion. Something tells me that the Karl Rove/Dick Cheney/Scooter Libby/Bill Frist/Tom Delay legal defense fund might become a higher priority. ;)

[Tom In VA]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

We don't. So it's as easy for someone to conclude this is SOP as it is to peel the sticky thing off the back of the maxi pad and line your panties with it.

"To my knowledge" is a qualifying statement.

Again, when they're sending in armored cars and burning down the HQ of The Onion with the people still trapped inside it. Let me know, I'll join your cause.

[DrDetroit]

B:

It is impossible to prove a negative.

Tom didn't ask that a negative be proven. Dikkers is claiming that the Onion has been singled out despite the WH indicating that all inappropriate users of the Seal have been notified. I think it is incumbent upon Dikkers to prove that the Onion has been singled out.

That is why you are innocent until PROVEN guilty in this country.

OMG, B...coming from you...this real comedy.

Uh, when are you going to extend the same courtesy to Libby and Rove?

When the WHite House sends a cease and desist letter, this is a form of harassment.

Bwahahahahaaaaa!! This is harrassment??

[BSmack]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

Because, after 30 fucking years, THEY ARE STILL USING THE SEAL YOU IGNORANT DUMBFUCK.

[Tom In VA]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

Because, after 30 fucking years, THEY ARE STILL USING THE SEAL YOU IGNORANT DUMBFUCK.

I read the Onion this morning, they still have the seal on there. So maybe it's more of a request than an ORDER. A request that can be acknowledged or not.

Thanks for playing you putrid slime. Go get something real or shut the fuck up.

[BSmack]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

Because, after 30 fucking years, THEY ARE STILL USING THE SEAL YOU IGNORANT DUMBFUCK.

I read the Onion this morning, they still have the seal on there. So maybe it's more of a request than an ORDER. A request that can be acknowledged or not. Thanks for playing you putrid slime. Go get something real or shut the fuck up.

Yea, I'm sure the White House is in the business of sending out cease and desist letters only to have them ignored. If we have someone in the White House who's job it is to send out letters to comedy programs complaining about the use of the Presidential Seal, only to do nothing when EACH AND EVERY RECIPIENT ignores their request, then every damn person in Andy Card's office should be tarred, feathered and horsewhipped before being run out of town on a rail.

Seriously Tom, just how fucking STUPID are you?

[Tom In VA]

It's a matter of procedure probably. There is probably formal "cease and desist" letters filed away in many a comedy producer's file cabinet.

Now, while that is pure speculation on my part. It's really no different than YOUR speculation.

Until you show me where this is the ONLY cease and desist letter, where the White House has legal recourse to compel a free society to not use IT'S seal in any manner they choose. You're simply wetting your bed.

This is not news. It's SOP.

[BSmack]

It's a matter of procedure probably. There is probably formal "cease and desist" letters filed away in many a comedy producer's file cabinet.

Now, while that is pure speculation on my part. It's really no different than YOUR speculation.

Until you show me where this is the ONLY cease and desist letter, where the White House has legal recourse to compel a free society to not use IT'S seal in any manner they choose. You're simply wetting your bed.

This is not news. It's SOP.

If this is SOP, that that in and of itself should be a scandal. What a fucking waste of my tax dollars. If it is not, then the Bushies need to come correct about why they are singling out one particular outlet.

Either way, YOU LOSE.

[Tom In VA]

It's a matter of procedure probably. There is probably formal "cease and desist" letters filed away in many a comedy producer's file cabinet.

Now, while that is pure speculation on my part. It's really no different than YOUR speculation.

Until you show me where this is the ONLY cease and desist letter, where the White House has legal recourse to compel a free society to not use IT'S seal in any manner they choose. You're simply wetting your bed.

This is not news. It's SOP.

What a fucking waste of OUR tax dollars.

Either way, WE LOSE.

FTFY

[Gunslinger]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

Partisan Hack:

They definately didn't during Dana Carvey's years of impersonating Bush Sr. In fact, Bush was quoted as loving the impersonation of him even though Carvey made him look dumb and evil. Bush even invited Carvey several times to white house dinners where he did NOT have to do his impersonation. They became friends and Carvey still did negative impressions of him.

[Gunslinger]

It's a matter of procedure probably. There is probably formal "cease and desist" letters filed away in many a comedy producer's file cabinet.

Now, while that is pure speculation on my part. It's really no different than YOUR speculation.

Until you show me where this is the ONLY cease and desist letter, where the White House has legal recourse to compel a free society to not use IT'S seal in any manner they choose. You're simply wetting your bed.

This is not news. It's SOP.

The Presidential seal can be used by civilians for any reason, but not to use it as an endorsement, commercial purposes or to blatantly decieve.

And my commercial endorsements I don't mean a free internet web page, but to sell it as a shirt or insignia to be sold. So, don't try and spin it hack.

[Tom In VA]

The Presidential seal can be used by civilians for any reason, but not to use it as an endorsement, commercial purposes or to blatantly decieve.

And my commercial endorsements I don't mean a free internet web page, but to sell it as a shirt or insignia to be sold. So, don't try and spin it hack.

Wasn't planning on spinning it. Was looking for factual information instead of your drooling, spittle spewing diatribes so that I could draw my own conclusion.

Personally, I agreed with BSmack, it's a waste of time and time = money.

So feel free to fuck yourself, child.

[Gunslinger]

Point is B, How do we know whether or not SNL and the like didn't get a letter ?

We don't. So it's as easy for someone to conclude this is SOP as it is to peel the sticky thing off the back of the maxi pad and line your panties with it.

"To my knowledge" is a qualifying statement.

Again, when they're sending in armored cars and burning down the HQ of The Onion with the people still trapped inside it. Let me know, I'll join your cause.

For someone so against them wasting our money, it just seems natural that I would continue quoting you where you clearly think its day to day business in the federal government to pull this kind of shit. You know, just likes its day to day business to not come up with a fucking plan for shit in the White House.

"Hey, it's day to day business in the white house. Let's not protest on how they spend their money and just go on with business. Let's just be passive and never judge."

Shit sounds like Iraq asshat!

As for child, I apologize if the concept of gaining authority and taking over where others fucked up is lost on you. Shit, I wish I was a child into adulthood, that way this board would be entertaining to me and Indians would still be the enemy and a nig ger could clean my backyard, while I masturbate and eat Teddy Grahams.

[Tom In VA]

For someone so against them wasting our money, it just seems natural that I would continue quoting you where you clearly think its day to day business in the federal government to pull this kind of shit. You know, just likes its day to day business to not come up with a fucking plan for shit in the White House.

"Hey, it's day to day business in the white house. Let's not protest on how they spend their money and just go on with business. Let's just be passive and never judge."

Shit sounds like Iraq asshat!

As for child, I apologize if the concept of gaining authority and taking over where others fucked up is lost on you. Shit, I wish I was a child into adulthood, that way this board would be entertaining to me and Indians would still be the enemy and a nig ger could clean my backyard, while I masturbate and eat Teddy Grahams.

You are a troll. There isn't anyone in this world that can concoct such bullshit. Really, if you can't tell the difference between speculating whether or not something is SOP vs. your version of the sky is falling because Bush's White House did something, then you're lost.

It's called a discussion. Something you are ill equipped and unable to handle. Side A, vs. Side B. I'll give you hint, sometimes I just pick Side B, to engage in a discussion for the hell of it. Call it playing Devil's Advocate, call it "facilitating a discussion" call it what you will.

Side A: "What a travesty, this has never happened before."
Side B: "Are you sure it's never happened before ? I mean even the guy it's happening to isn't aware of whether it's happened before or not".

Side A: "What a travesty, this has never happened before."
Side B: "Oh I don't know, it sounds like SOP, you know sending a memo reminding people of the purpose and ... blah blah blah ... an official NON ENDORSEMENT".

Side A: "What a waste of time and money"
Side B: "I agree"

Considering what's going on in the real world, it's a waste of time and money. But then again, there's another side to that argument. A side you wouldn't even be able to comprehend, because .... you're a whiny cunt.


Enjoy your Teddy Grahams. Sometimes, like a blind squirrel, you find a nut. This isn't one of those times.

[Gunslinger]

For someone so against them wasting our money, it just seems natural that I would continue quoting you where you clearly think its day to day business in the federal government to pull this kind of shit. You know, just likes its day to day business to not come up with a fucking plan for shit in the White House.

"Hey, it's day to day business in the white house. Let's not protest on how they spend their money and just go on with business. Let's just be passive and never judge."

Shit sounds like Iraq asshat!

As for child, I apologize if the concept of gaining authority and taking over where others fucked up is lost on you. Shit, I wish I was a child into adulthood, that way this board would be entertaining to me and Indians would still be the enemy and a nig ger could clean my backyard, while I masturbate and eat Teddy Grahams.

You are a troll. There isn't anyone in this world that can concoct such bullshit. Really, if you can't tell the difference between speculating whether or not something is SOP vs. your version of the sky is falling because Bush's White House did something, then you're lost.

It's called a discussion. Something you are ill equipped and unable to handle. Side A, vs. Side B. I'll give you hint, sometimes I just pick Side B, to engage in a discussion for the hell of it. Call it playing Devil's Advocate, call it "facilitating a discussion" call it what you will.

Side A: "What a travesty, this has never happened before."
Side B: "Are you sure it's never happened before ? I mean even the guy it's happening to isn't aware of whether it's happened before or not".

Side A: "What a travesty, this has never happened before."
Side B: "Oh I don't know, it sounds like SOP, you know sending a memo reminding people of the purpose and ... blah blah blah ... an official NON ENDORSEMENT".

Side A: "What a waste of time and money"
Side B: "I agree"

Considering what's going on in the real world, it's a waste of time and money. But then again, there's another side to that argument. A side you wouldn't even be able to comprehend, because .... you're a whiny cunt.


Enjoy your Teddy Grahams. Sometimes, like a blind squirrel, you find a nut. This isn't one of those times.

Hi! Tom! I'm reality and you have been ignoring me for the last couple of years. I joined a guy who wanted to use reality to abuse you and I am sorry for that, I wanted to take a gentler approach, but this asshole said: "Tear this mother fucker up!"

See, reality is that no presidential administration has protected the seal of the presidency. Yet you claim to have control of me to prove otherwise. Well it's day 2 and you still haven't shown a god damn thing and god wants me to ban you to the abyss of hell. I said: "Hold up he has a chance!" To which I saw a notebook paper set on fire in the holy blazes like none other. It burned very well.

So, I wanted to tell you that the sky isn't falling like you embrace yourself in as a warm winter blanket. It's getting cold isn't it? Anyways, Saturday Night Live did years of impressions of the president and now the Onion does it and the Administration, sorry led by Bush, wants to shut them up.

As Baghdad Bob said: Dont worry the infedels aren't here.

[Tom In VA]

More drivel from your drooling nut warmers ?

I was wrong about one thing. Trying to have a discussion with an idiot like you.


"When any official sign or seal is being used inappropriately the party is notified," Duffy said."

That screams SOP to me.

Ooh and then how about the actual wording of the alleged "cease and desist" order.

"It has come to my attention that The Onion is using the presidential seal on its Web site," Grant M. Dixton, associate counsel to the president, wrote to The Onion on Sept. 28. (At the time, Mr. Dixton's office was also helping Mr. Bush find a Supreme Court nominee; days later his boss, Harriet E. Miers, was nominated.)

Citing the United States Code, Mr. Dixton wrote that the seal "is not to be used in connection with commercial ventures or products in any way that suggests presidential support or endorsement." Exceptions may be made, he noted, but The Onion had never applied for such an exception. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/business/24onion.html


Perhaps SNL and other venues applied for an exception ? You know, followed the rules and the law ?

Eat shit, troll.

[Tom In VA]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/ ... notes.html

[Gunslinger]

More drivel from your drooling nut warmers ?

I was wrong about one thing. Trying to have a discussion with an idiot like you.


"When any official sign or seal is being used inappropriately the party is notified," Duffy said."

That screams SOP to me.

Ooh and then how about the actual wording of the alleged "cease and desist" order.

"It has come to my attention that The Onion is using the presidential seal on its Web site," Grant M. Dixton, associate counsel to the president, wrote to The Onion on Sept. 28. (At the time, Mr. Dixton's office was also helping Mr. Bush find a Supreme Court nominee; days later his boss, Harriet E. Miers, was nominated.)

Citing the United States Code, Mr. Dixton wrote that the seal "is not to be used in connection with commercial ventures or products in any way that suggests presidential support or endorsement." Exceptions may be made, he noted, but The Onion had never applied for such an exception. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/business/24onion.html


Perhaps SNL and other venues applied for an exception ? You know, followed the rules and the law ?

Eat shit, troll.

"It has come to my attention that the Onion is using the presidential seal on its website."

Fucking great! Fantastic even. Saturday Night Live has never recieved a cease and desist order from our government.

AGAIN! Dipshit! Do you want to be intellectual or a verbatim hack!

Saturday night live never applied nor was asked to, could you please tell me the power to suck my own cock. I need it.

[Gunslinger]

And guess what dipshit! SNL is free to the public just like the Onion, could you say you honestly sucked off 12 god fearing males today? You can, I know it.

[Tom In VA]

Where, anywhere, does it mention a "cease and desist" order ?

It says that a letter was sent. A letter reminding them of the U.S. Code.

"It has come to my attention that The Onion is using the presidential seal on its Web site," Grant M. Dixton, associate counsel to the president, wrote to The Onion on Sept. 28. (At the time, Mr. Dixton's office was also helping Mr. Bush find a Supreme Court nominee; days later his boss, Harriet E. Miers, was nominated.)

Citing the United States Code, Mr. Dixton wrote that the seal "is not to be used in connection with commercial ventures or products in any way that suggests presidential support or endorsement." Exceptions may be made, he noted, but The Onion had never applied for such an exception.

Furthermore it says that The Onion has now, formally, asked .... which perhaps other venues had done ..... ergo not needing a "letter" to be sent.

That said, The Onion asked that its letter be considered a formal application to use the seal.

So since the LAW stipulates how the seal is to be used .... and how it NOT to be used.

Section 1. Except as otherwise provided by law, the knowing manufacture, reproduction, sale, or purchase for resale of the Seals or Coats of Arms of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or any likeness or substantial part thereof, shall be permitted only for the following uses:
(a) Use by the President or Vice President of the United States;
(b) Use in encyclopedias, dictionaries, books, journals, pamphlets, periodicals, or magazines incident to a description or history of seals, coats of arms, heraldry, or the Presidency or Vice Presidency;
(c) Use in libraries, museums, or educational facilities incident to descriptions or exhibits relating to seals, coats of arms, heraldry, or the Presidency or Vice Presidency;
(d) Use as an architectural embellishment in libraries, museums, or archives established to house the papers or effects of former Presidents or Vice Presidents;
(e) Use on a monument to a former President or Vice President;
(f) Use by way of photographic or electronic visual reproduction in pictures, moving pictures, or telecasts of bona fide news content;
(g) Such other uses for exceptional historical, educational, or newsworthy purposes as may be authorized in writing by the Counsel to the President.
Sec. 2. The manufacture, reproduction, sale, or purchase for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, of the Seals of the President or Vice President, or any likeness or substantial part thereof, except as provided in this Order or as otherwise provided by law, is prohibited.

They are doing their JOB. I.E. SOP .... and enforcing the LAW of the LAND.


You dipshit bedwetting moron.

[Mister Bushice]

why the fuck is it a surprise to anyone that this Bush admenstruation continues to try and suppress negative opinions about it?

Yeah, the Onion is a real source of information, eh?

Pathetic.

It's certainly a better read than the weekly presidential address.


Oh shit, I almost forgot to add:

You cocksucking cumgargling faggot.

There. Now I'm just like the rest of you pathetic middle aged 8 year olds.

[Tom In VA]

You're right Bushice, meeting immature irrationality with even more immature irrationality is no way to discuss things in the Spin Zone.


Gunslinger, my apologies. You have coherent takes every now and again that I don't mind reading. Peace.

[Gunslinger]

You're right Bushice, meeting immature irrationality with even more immature irrationality is no way to discuss things in the Spin Zone.


Gunslinger, my apologies. You have coherent takes every now and again that I don't mind reading. Peace.

I have coherent takes all the time, consider me the pissed off non voting American. I have pretty much no friends who vote, because they state there isn't a point, I take their views and my views and use it.

There are millions of Americans out there who don't give a shit about politics and don't have to vent on a message board. I'm one of those people, I am the majority and the majority takes a shitload to vote. Alot of them voted the last election, but alot of them didn't know the issues.

Except I have a problem, I am pissed off and do have to express my view. Clinton used to be a terrible president in my opinion, but 5 years of this bullshit and I wish for the days of cumming on a dress. See, I have a problem with authority. GEE! Imagine that!!

I think the military should be leading our government, why? Because McCain is something the Middle East couldn't fucking comprehend. He was against Iraq and wanted to hold Saudia Arabia responsible, like that other military genius Powell.

The military and police aren't the authority, that is why blacks piss me off when they want to attack the police. They want to attack a white guy earning blue collar pay and not the fucking idiot who handed down the mandate. If I was alive during the viatnam protests I'd be fighting college hippies every weekend. Police and soldiers are us, Bush is not!

[Gunslinger]

Oh, and how does that relate to the Onion? It's because it is us, the people and I have a terrible time with the government trying to make us answer to them. They answer to us.

I stated it before, but SNL NEVER had to ask for permission to use the president seal. You've been googling that shit, I know, to prove me wrong. You won't find it because it didnt fucking happen and was NEVER an issue before this fucking piece of shit president.

[BBMarley]

88Marley:

Hmm.....

Let's see, Bush is in the job position that the seal describes and everyone in the White House is working for him and under him. Obviously the cease and desist had to come from those that are in charge of the protecting the president as Chief of State, so it's safe to say the same people who work under Karl Rove are the people who did this.

So, again Bush is a fuck! And you supporting this anti-American hero, who is hated by all military veteran politicians, clearly leaves you in the clueless category of Americans. Please, next time don't vote. Republicans are always preaching about how only the educated should be allowed to vote, then that's great because 60% of Bush's support made under the national median average income and were in the majority category of lacking IQ.

Dumb and pussies, yep that's Bushs electorate.

Well toolbag- I actually don't support him- I didn't vote him and think he is doing a horibble job- but this is BS news and the legitimate points that people have of stuff he did wrong or is screwing up get glossed over b/c morons like you waste time with stupid shit like this!

[Gunslinger]

88Marley:

Hmm.....

Let's see, Bush is in the job position that the seal describes and everyone in the White House is working for him and under him. Obviously the cease and desist had to come from those that are in charge of the protecting the president as Chief of State, so it's safe to say the same people who work under Karl Rove are the people who did this.

So, again Bush is a fuck! And you supporting this anti-American hero, who is hated by all military veteran politicians, clearly leaves you in the clueless category of Americans. Please, next time don't vote. Republicans are always preaching about how only the educated should be allowed to vote, then that's great because 60% of Bush's support made under the national median average income and were in the majority category of lacking IQ.

Dumb and pussies, yep that's Bushs electorate.

Well toolbag- I actually don't support him- I didn't vote him and think he is doing a horibble job- but this is BS news and the legitimate points that people have of stuff he did wrong or is screwing up get glossed over b/c morons like you waste time with stupid shit like this!

You are correct, my criticism of Bush on an internet message board about the Onion decision is hindering the Iraq intelligence discussion.

Fucking idiot!

[Tom In VA]

Oh, and how does that relate to the Onion? It's because it is us, the people and I have a terrible time with the government trying to make us answer to them. They answer to us.

We all answer to the rule of law.

I stated it before, but SNL NEVER had to ask for permission to use the president seal.

Perhaps you are correct, but I don't know that to be the truth and I do not believe you know this. You seem to be unwilling to back it up with fact.

You've been googling that shit, I know, to prove me wrong.

Not necessarily, I enjoy these discussions and this issue interested me. It's more out of curiosity than to prove you wrong. You provided no facts, so I looked for them. It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to contribute and learn. If you get proven wrong in the process, so be it. That's not my intent.

You won't find it because it didnt fucking happen and was NEVER an issue before this fucking piece of shit president.

Well it must have been an issue as laws governing the use of the seal were written into the U.S. code long before Bush took office.

[Gunslinger]

Oh, and how does that relate to the Onion? It's because it is us, the people and I have a terrible time with the government trying to make us answer to them. They answer to us.

We all answer to the rule of law.

I stated it before, but SNL NEVER had to ask for permission to use the president seal.

Perhaps you are correct, but I don't know that to be the truth and I do not believe you know this. You seem to be unwilling to back it up with fact.

You've been googling that shit, I know, to prove me wrong.

Not necessarily, I enjoy these discussions and this issue interested me. It's more out of curiosity than to prove you wrong. You provided no facts, so I looked for them. It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to contribute and learn. If you get proven wrong in the process, so be it. That's not my intent.

You won't find it because it didnt fucking happen and was NEVER an issue before this fucking piece of shit president.

Well it must have been an issue as laws governing the use of the seal were written into the U.S. code long before Bush took office.

No, you have to provide the fucking proof.

YOU! Not I made the statement that this is day to day business of our government and they did it to SNL.

Therefore as debates go, YOU, not I have to provide the proof. You can't find it because you are the only bastard to have ever thought of this.

No wonder we went to Iraq with dumbfucks like you voting. Your philosophy of people provide proof over false accusations gets people killed, like say IN IRAQ!!!

Now, you are obviously homosexual and fucking Dr. Detroit. If you don't provide otherwise to my claim, then I will ask for the board to ban you for sucking so much ass and cock.

[Mister Bushice]

Not necessarily, I enjoy these discussions and this issue interested me. It's more out of curiosity than to prove you wrong. You provided no facts, so I looked for them. It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to contribute and learn. If you get proven wrong in the process, so be it. That's not my intent.

If more posters had this mentality, Tom more of the threads here would be worth the read. Nothing worse than trying to sort through 10 homosmack posts to read the one or two decent takes.

Oh well.

[Gunslinger]

Not necessarily, I enjoy these discussions and this issue interested me. It's more out of curiosity than to prove you wrong. You provided no facts, so I looked for them. It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to contribute and learn. If you get proven wrong in the process, so be it. That's not my intent.

If more posters had this mentality, Tom more of the threads here would be worth the read. Nothing worse than trying to sort through 10 homosmack posts to read the one or two decent takes.

Oh well.

I was on a roll with all the hate, don't try and slow me down. I'm tired of everyone believing there are 2 sides to a story, there aren't and nothing like epic homosexual smack to prove that very point.

FUCK OFF!

[Tom In VA]

1. Enforcement of the U.S. Code IS the daily job of the Federal Government. You're wrong on that one. I was right.


2. I said "Maybe SNL got something". I never said they did. Furthermore, perhaps they also wrote in to request using the Seal. NBC being a responsible media outlet, my hunch is that they did.


3. You are not impressive. Nothing can slow you down any more than you do yourself. As I always like to say, you're so far behind ... you think you're first.

4. Yes, I am responsible, you are responsible we are all responsible for the people in Iraq serving under our flag. That you think a war like this wouldn't have been necessary regardless of who was in office, shows your inability to comprehend reality.

5. Burden of proof, in this country, does not fall on the accused.

[Mister Bushice]

Not necessarily, I enjoy these discussions and this issue interested me. It's more out of curiosity than to prove you wrong. You provided no facts, so I looked for them. It wasn't to prove you wrong, it was to contribute and learn. If you get proven wrong in the process, so be it. That's not my intent.

If more posters had this mentality, Tom more of the threads here would be worth the read. Nothing worse than trying to sort through 10 homosmack posts to read the one or two decent takes.

Oh well.

I was on a roll with all the hate, don't try and slow me down. I'm tired of everyone believing there are 2 sides to a story, there aren't and nothing like epic homosexual smack to prove that very point.

FUCK OFF!

Enjoy, just don't expect a lot of reasonably intelligent grown ups to jump into the sandbox with you on it.

You'll notice how very few new people post here, and some of the best debaters don't either.

Now you know why.