trev wrote:Give me something concrete and not a hypothetical.
bizarro trev wrote:Any question that he's in the top 5 QB's?
Nice job KYOA before this argument even got started, trev.
Brees and the Bolts had a solid offensive outing against an overmatched defensive unit that sold out to stop LT2. Given the opportunities, he responded ... as did Harrington last week.
He's a good quarterback that deserves to be under center each week, rather than holding a clipboard, and I'll give him props for making the Chargers second-guess that Rivers trade; however, to call him top five is reaching into Paul-level homerism.
Brees had a great game, no doubt, and it wasn't all Gates. It certainly helped that the WRs were catching passes and not fumbling.
Didn't Buffalo come into the game with one of the top pass defenses in the league, at least statistically? Brees has the third highest QB rating in the NFL right now. I'd say that makes him top five by the most legitimate quantitative measure. Why the anti-Drew hate?
The thing that I enjoyed the most watching the Bolts game yesterday, once it was pretty much wrapped up, was seeing Michael Turner get a chance to run the ball for a full drive, and the reaction of his teammates when he got the TD. This is a team that really seems together right now. BTW, Turner outgained the self glossed "best tailback in the league" in about 5 minutes of playing time.
They also let Lorenzo Neal handle the ball a lot more than usual. That was cool.
As for Buffalo's defense, teams haven't needed to risk putting the ball in the air. No sense when you're running over the Bills on the ground ... even with Spikes.
Assembling a team from scratch, Brees would hover just outside the top-ten fringe.
Hmmmm...
I don't see anybody addressing the QB rating thingy (behind only Palmer and Manning), which Brees has attained while playing one of the most difficult schedules in the league this season.
As for Buffalo's defense, teams haven't needed to risk putting the ball in the air. No sense when you're running over the Bills on the ground ... even with Spikes.
Assembling a team from scratch, Brees would hover just outside the top-ten fringe.
They let Turner play in a blow-out. How come Rivers didn't play?
Could it be so he wouldn't get hurt, thus hurting his trade value?
mvscal wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:Seriously - I think we need a different approach - strong, intelligent, principled, and fresh. Obama seems to fit the bill for me best at this point.
Then you are a fucking fool. Straight up. Obama is the dumbest motherfucker who has ever run for President.
The point is, dumbfuck, that no QB is going to have the stats without receivers that can catch the ball.
You say that half the current QB would have better stats with the weapons that Brees has. Prove it asshole. Which ones, exactly? You want to list them? How do you know that it isn't Brees who's making the receivers look good?
I can just as truthfully say that any QB, including Brees, would have Peyton's stats if he was playing for the Colts
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RaiderFaggot's 16 QBs who would have better stats then Brees if they played for the Chargers.
I don't think I'll hold my breath.
Raydah James.
Still ducking like the little girl that he is.
Nice job sweetie.
Trent Green
Matt Hasselbeck
Eli
Peyton
Plummer
Bledsoe
Palmer
Bulger
Delhomme
Favre
Rothleisberger
Warner
Thats just the current crop of starters-I could throw in McNabb and Culpepper if I felt the urge. ALL of these guys would put up better numbers in your offense than Brees. Face it, for the insane amount of time his offensive line gives him, and the talent he has to throw to, he is fucking subpar at best
It's kinda like Stan Humphries...if you weren't around to see his arm strength on a regular basis, you probably wouldn't rate him as a "gun"...Trust me on this one, he had a gun!
Brees has become one of the most "accurate" passers in the NFL. His numbers bare that out. How soon you twits forget how you were bagging on the Bolt's WR's. Do I need to go back and pull the threads? didn't think so.
We're talking 47 year old Keenan McCardell, Eric Parker (who I just picked off the waiver wire week 11) Reche Caldwell, L.t. and Gates.
If you saw Brees step up in the pocket and zing that needle threader to McCardell for a TD, that's a whaaad I'm a talking bout.
Raiduhfan...Collins has L.J. Randy freekin Moss, Jerrah Porter, Alvin Witted, and Doug Gabriel. I'll take those receivers over ours any freekin day...
BTW..Rivers did get in yesterday...he took a ka-nee on the final snap...bwa
ChargerMike wrote:
If you saw Brees step up in the pocket and zing that needle threader to McCardell for a TD, that's a whaaad I'm a talking bout.
yeah, no other NFL QB could throw that pass......
Kelly fucking Holcomb would put up better numbers in that offense-easily.
Brees is nothing more than a serviceable backup for any other NFL team other than one stupid enough to actually let him start and lead them to sitting at home on thier couches come playoff time. Again.
RaiderFaggot's 16 QBs who would have better stats then Brees if they played for the Chargers.
I don't think I'll hold my breath.
Raydah James.
Still ducking like the little girl that he is.
Nice job sweetie.
Trent Green
Matt Hasselbeck
Eli
Peyton
Plummer
Bledsoe
Palmer
Bulger
Delhomme
Favre
Rothleisberger
Warner
Thats just the current crop of starters-I could throw in McNabb and Culpepper if I felt the urge. ALL of these guys would put up better numbers in your offense than Brees. Face it, for the insane amount of time his offensive line gives him, and the talent he has to throw to, he is fucking subpar at best
Drew Brees is a fucking joke.
ELI???????????ELI????["huge freekinf roll eyes"]bu-cough-wah-choke--haa[/huge freeking roll eyes]
ELI..52% Brees 65% before yesterdays 28 0f 33
Your stretching on that one brother James..imnsho
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Speaking of over-rated QB's, Lets talk about Dan Fouts.
He has losing record as starter, yet he's in the hall of fame.
Even Brees is better than that sorry-ass.
I guess they had to put one charger in the HOF.
mvscal wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:Seriously - I think we need a different approach - strong, intelligent, principled, and fresh. Obama seems to fit the bill for me best at this point.
Then you are a fucking fool. Straight up. Obama is the dumbest motherfucker who has ever run for President.
Aaron Brooks is a much better QB that Brees is as well. Plug him into that offense and he'd be a pro bowler. Seriously, you could plug just about anybody in that offense behind that outstanding line, and they'd have more success than Brees.
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