The USC-Texas bullshit season officially begins now...

[Van]

~Lets hear it. It's officially on now so sticky this fucker for a month. It's time to call your shot...~

-Reggie Bush again runs wild...

-Lendale White, on the way to three TDs for the day, punishes inside every time a key first down is needed...

-The play action passing resulting from all that rushing success makes the Texas D look like Colorado's...

-Vince Young gets the Jason White "exposed" treatment via numerous sacks and turnovers...

...and Camelot culminates with Leinart and Carroll ending this thing the only way it was ever going to end.

USC, playing to conclude a Three Peat in the Rose Bowl of all places, in Leinart & Company's Final Ride?

That opening line 7 point spread favoring USC, it's rather amusing.

Anyway, Texas Honk, you've been asking for it all season. Now you're about to once again be reminded of the wisdom in that old saying, "Be careful what you ask for..."

You wanted us (or so you say) and now you've got us. Bigger than life, and absolutely not from the Big XII, all up in your face and dancing at will in your end zone: The USC Fucking Trojans, playing in the Rose Bowl, for all your marbles.

This one will again not even be close. You are about to get rolled in front of the entire nation and the sad part about it is that for all your newfound bravado (thanks to OU paving the way for you by finally having a down year) most of the nation isn't going to be the least bit surprised when the final score is...

USC 50
Texas 22

[Harvdog]

~Lets hear it. It's officially on now so sticky this fucker for a month. It's time to call your shot...~

-Reggie Bush again runs wild...

-Lendale White, on the way to three TDs for the day, punishes inside every time a key first down is needed...

-The play action passing resulting from all that rushing success makes the Texas D look like Colorado's...

-Vince Young gets the Jason White "exposed" treatment via numerous sacks and turnovers...

...and Camelot culminates with Leinart and Carroll ending this thing the only way it was ever going to end.

USC, playing to conclude a Three Peat in the Rose Bowl of all places, in Leinart & Company's Final Ride?

That opening line 7 point spread favoring USC, it's rather amusing.

Anyway, Texas Honk, you've been asking for it all season. Now you're about to once again be reminded of the wisdom in that old saying, "Be careful what you ask for..."

You wanted us (or so you say) and now you've got us. Bigger than life, and absolutely not from the Big XII, all up in your face and dancing at will in your end zone: The USC Fucking Trojans, playing in the Rose Bowl, for all your marbles.

This one will again not even be close. You are about to get rolled in front of the entire nation and the sad part about it is that for all your newfound bravado (thanks to OU paving the way for you by finally having a down year) most of the nation isn't going to be the least bit surprised when the final score is...

USC 50
Texas 22

Are you sure? You are so opinionated, do you actually believe everything you come up with in your hollow mind? I am not sure if you aren't writing all this just so you can sit back and read your dribble and laugh at the absurb thoughts.

USC is a great team. They have all the offensive talent in the world. They have a strong defense. They also have a coach in Pete Carroll who has won a Super Bowl and 2 MNC's.

The one thing they haven't done this year is play a team with the talent of Texas. Keep telling your self that we suck. Keep telling yourself that we cannot stop the run. Keep telling yourself that Vince cannot throw. Keep telling yourself that we are like OU last year. (We aren't) Keep telling yourself that the Big XII sucks and that you are playing Oregon or some other overrated Pac-10 school.

The thing about this game that will be telling is the first quarter. SC is going to try and trow a round house. When Texas doesn't fall, SC will be shocked. We are alot better than you think Van. I seriously doubt that Pete Carroll thinks this is a walk in the park.

It will be a close game.

Texas 41
USC 37

[Shoalzie]

I really don't think either offense can be stopped...just comes down to if each QB doesn't make any mistakes. I think Young is more prone to making mistake than Leinart and it will cost them. Bush will go for over 200 again...dude is not from this planet. No question he's my Heisman pick.

USC 35, Texas 28

[GreginPG]

The one thing they haven't done this year is play a team with the talent of Texas.

I'm absolutely stunned to hear this!
Ummm, no I'm NOT!

IowaFan said it.
MichiganFan said it.
OklahomaFan said it.

This was as predictable as Reggie running wild over the gutty little rUins yesterday.

[buckeye_in_sc]

as a JAFO (just another fucking observer) this game does intrigue me...

got to see a lot ot Texas football this year...not only because they played tOSU but I watched a ton of games on gameplan...I also got to see good bits of SC throughout the year...


very intriguing matchup...I would just caution SC fan...not that you aren't riding a huge winning streak and could porlly score on the Houston Texans but in 2002 tOSU got no chance against Miami and how did that work out?

I see an explosive SC offense and a very tough as nailz texas D...something has to give...if the Texas D line can get any pressue on Linert or somehow neutralize the SC run game then we have a ballgame...the texas DB's have their work cut out for them and that as well will test them.

SC's defense is hobbled but don't think they will not get up for this one...tOSU tried to make Vince beat them with his arm and he did (after the first two drives) and Charles and Sweed have come on toward the end of the year...

hell I don't know what to call going to be a very good game and i am looking forward to watching it...here are my two picks...

I think SC wins but does not cover and the score is something like SC 24 texas 21

or Texas wins outright in a close game Texas 31 SC 28

i need more time to look at stats and such...

[PSUFAN]

This is a matchup that I've been waiting to see. The best title game I've seen in a while was the Miami/OSU game a few years back. I think this game could be on that level, from a competitive standpoint.

[Van]

Harvdog, one of your points came up before and I'll address it again now...

I agree with you that Pete won't take Texas lightly. One of USC's fans is predicting a USC blow out? Obviously, what's said in here will have no bearing on USC's preparation. USC will take Texas life or death seriously.

88...

Mack will walk around for five weeks with a load in his pants while Pete sharpens his offensive knives to cut through Mack's defense. Just sayin.

...among other things, that's it in a nutshell. Moreso than just their talent it's USC's big game experience and superiority in coaching that'll win this thing.

I like Matt Leinart's poise and his ability to not make the big mistake much more than I like Young's, who will put the ball on the ground. Between USC's pass rush, their secondary's ball hawkers and Young's propensity to carry the ball like a loaf of bread even in traffic Young will be Texas' offensive undoing.

"Mack will walk around for five weeks with a load in his pants..."

Bwaaaahahaaaa!!

One thing I don't get though is how you like the fight in Texas more than the fight in USC? USC is the team riding the 34 game winning streak. They're the team that's shown the unmatched will to win. They're the ones who've shown that they simply refuse to lose.

How can you question their fight? Not saying Texas doesn't also have fight but if there's any edge (besides experience, coaching, and Reggie Bush) that USC flat out has over Texas it's their determination to fight and win...

[Roofer]

The way Leinart was overthrowing his targets left and right yesterday has me concerned. If he does that against a better Longhorn D, he's gonna get picked at least 2-3 times. Whatever was fuckin with that left arm of his yesterday, I hope he gets it worked out by Jan 4.

I don't see an OU type blowout.

USC - 38
UT - 35

[mothster]

the potential for a great game is definately there.........key will be texas bein able to exploit sc's secondary

but as usual west is best

sc------41
tejas---32

[Roofer]

But SC's defense is not particularly good for some reason.

Interesting that this would be mentioned, although it's understandable. Going into yesterday's game, SC's defense was the chink in their armor and was going to be their downfall should UCLA upset them.

I think it's safe to say USC's defense is just fine.

[Van]

It certainly will be after five weeks of preparation/recuperation.

They looked damn good yesterday against a dominant UCLA offense. With USC it always comes down to motivation. Well, that, and injuries.

USC's D is always the supposed chink in their armor, right up until the biggest of games are played, at which point they unleash the fucking fury!

:malmsteen:

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

:malmsteen:

No, USC actually plays with some emotion.

[Van]

:malmsteen:

No, USC actually plays with some emotion.

Dude, Malmsteen kicks his leg out all enthusiastically and everything! He effects the appropriate facial grimaces and he winks and he strikes heroic rock god poses when he hits the proper power chords.

Dude is all about the angst.

[PSUFAN]

does he still do all of that? Shane MacGowan does that shit too, from his wheelchair...

[Van]

Yep, I saw him a couple weeks ago. He's recently lost quite a bit of tonnage compared to the leather clad whale I saw on the G3 tour.

He still does all the same stage antics, including lots of episodes of spinning the guitar all the way around his body and occasionally throwing his guitar in the air to his waiting guitar tech.

The leg kicks are still part of the shtick too. Kinda looks like Elaine doing her dance on Seinfeld.

Mind blowing player though, still.

[Laxplayer]

Great game my a$$. Pete Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. That's all I need to know. Even though I'll go out and buy some burnt orange clothing SC rolls in this one.
$C-45
UT-10

[The Seer]

Great game my a$$. Pete Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. That's all I need to know. Even though I'll go out and buy some burnt orange clothing SC rolls in this one.
$C-45
UT-10

Damn, I swear you stole my score!...


Okay,


$UC - 42

Tex - 13

[Vito Corleone]

Again Van is spouting off shit without backing up any of it with some kind of facts. What USC did to UCLA was about as impressive as what Texas did to Taco Tech only Tech had a better defense and Texas didn't leave their starters in as long to pad their stats.

Here are the matchups

USC offense vs Texas Defense

USC Oline vs Texas Dline

The USC oline is overrated, they have not faced a single good dline all year except for Oregon there is nothing they have seen that will prepare them for what Texas is going to bring. If you thought Haloti Ngata was tough just wait til Rod Wright steps up, but the big difference is Texas has 3 NFL quality DTs in Wright, Dibbles, and Okam and 3 NFL quality DE in Crowder, Robison, and Orakpo. I feel safe in saying that USC will not be running between the tackles. Against the pass, USC will be tough and I think for Texas to generate a pass rush they will need to do some stunts, when Texas has stunted they have been very effective but not as much when they haven't.

Edge Texas


USC runningbacks vs Texas Linebackers

USC has two of the top runningbacks in the country, both are game breakers who can take over a game, even for Texas to slow them down will be a monumental task. The key for Texas is their speed at linebacker, though all the Texas linebackers are undersized they are fast as shit and can cover from sideline to sideline. MLB Aaron Harris is considered to be one of the top 5 backers in the NFL draft but he is not going to be enough in this game, Texas is going to need OLB Killebrew and Babino and Kelson to stepup.

Big edge USC

USC QB & receivers vs Texas DBs

I know how enamoured USC is with their passing game but fact is Texas has already faced a better set of receivers in OSU who had Santonio Holmes and Ted Ginn Jr. Jarrett Smith and Byrd are all very good NFL quality receivers but Texas is so stacked at db its not even funny. Texas has two senior dbs in Michael Huff and Ced Griffith who are both likely going to be drafted in the first two rounds of the NFL draft, but they are not the two best players in the defensive backfield, that would be Aaron Ross and Terrel Brown who are both shutdown corners comparible to former Longhorn Quintin Jammer. That doesn't even count 2 other DBs who are also NFL quality in Michael Griffith and Matt Melton. I know, you think I'm feeding you a line of Bullshit, but according to NFL scout Chris Landry Texas has by far the best secondary in college football. Leinart is a smart and accurate QB who can pick apart a secondary but he has never faced a secondary as good as Texas.

Edge Even


Texas offense vs the USC defense

Oline vs Dline

This one is not even close the Texas oline has 2 1st round NFL quality tackles in Justin Blalock and Jon Scott both have been extremely dominate in both run and pass blocking. Texas also has a 3rd olinemen in Will Allen who is projected as a 3rd or 4th round NFL draft pick. All told Texas has the best offensive line in college football, some have said the best in the last 10 years. The USC Dline is manned by a couple of quality DE in Rucker and Jackson who will pose some challenge for Texas but Texas has faced better this year. The USC DT and NT are a joke, and will get pushed around by the much more physical Texas guards and tackles. I expect Texas to open up huge holes for the runningbacks and give Vince all the time in the world. Fact is the only way USC will generate any kind of pass rush is if they blitz which will play right into the hands of the Texas offense.

Big Big edge Texas


Texas Running backs & QB vs USC linebackers

Texas has two runningback who are as fast as Reggie Bush in Jamal Charles and Romonce Taylor either one has the ability to take a handoff and turn a 5 yard gain into a 80 yard touchdown. Again for Texas, they have faced atlease 4 linebacker units that are better than the USC backers so this is again a matchup that highly favors Texas, the big difference is that the USC linebackers have never faced a running QB like Vince Young and they don't have anyone on their campus that can simulate him short of putting Reggie Bush at the QB spot. And even Bush doesn't come close unless he grows about 5 inches and gains 30 lbs. The biggest challenge for USC will be containing Vince on running plays when Texas spreads the field with 4 or 5 receivers thats when Vince is most dangerous.

Big Big edge Texas


Texas receivers & QB vs USC DBs

Darnell Bing is a player probably on the same level as Michael Huff but after him there isn't a lot to talk about, again Texas has faced better competition than USC. Texas has 3 game breaking receivers in Pittman, Sweed, and Cosby. None are on the level of former Longhorn Roy Williams but all three get the job done. Texas has a 4th receiver in TE David Thomas who is one of the best pass catching TE in the country and IMO the best TE to ever play at Texas. Vince Young has not had any problems getting the ball to his receivers this year and I don't expect that to change in the rosebowl. Vince will throw for over 300 yards and 2 tds. The touch part for USC is in those occasions when the USC dbs do a solid job of covering the Texas receivers they will need to keep an eye on Vince to see if he has tucked the ball and started up field. No team in the country not even OSU has been able to shut down both the Texas running game and their passing game.

Big edge Texas


Special Teams - Texas has blocked 9 field goals or Pats and another 6 punts, I don't know how good the SC special teams is but I know Texas is going to put a lot of pressure on their kickers. Texas also has one of the top 10 return men in college football in Aaron Ross who averages 16 yards on punt returns and has scored 2 TDs. Romance Taylor has a kickoff ruturn avg of 29 yards per return. USC has Reggie Bush who can break open a game any time he touches the ball but he is only averaging 10 yards per return and ranked 39 in the nation. I can't comment on the USC kickoff ruturn because they have no one ranked in the top 100 of the NCAA. This is good news for Texas since their kickoff coverage blows.

edge Texas


Coaching - This is not Mack Brown vs Pete Carroll like all the SC idiots like to say, this is the Texas coaching staff vs the USC coaching staff. And I have no problem saying the Texas coaching staff is up to the challenge. USC is riding a 33 game win streak but former Auburn DC Gene Chizik is riding a 30 game win streak. Chizik is considered the best assistant coach in the game and will likely be a head coach in the next 2 years. I would take the Texas assistants over the SC assistants any day (Greg Davis not included). Mack is like a CEO he is not a hands on guy he brings in the best assistants in the game and they do the coaching. I know SC like to talk about how so many of their assistants have moved on but last year Texas lost 4 assistants 2 moved on to become OC's and two moved on to become Head Coaches.

Edge Even


I predict that SC will move the ball like Taco Tech did and probably score a couple more touchdowns but Texas will shut down the SC passing game by keeping Leinart on his back for most of the night. SC will have a lot of problems stopping the Texas running game and will be forced to play their safeties very close to the LOS and thats when Vince will kill them deep over the middle like he has done to everyone else. He will run the ball a few times just to keep the defense off balance but for the most part SC will not have an answer for the Texas offense.

Texas wins going away 48 - 33

[TheChief]

I think the game will have the same type of result as last year. Big 12 champs no match for SC.

[Van]

All anyone needs to know about Vito's little synopsis there is that he graded out the coaching as "Even" and USC's QB and receivers vs Texas' DB's as "Even".

My, those sound like reasonable conclusions!



Oh, but hey, he also said USC's O line is overrated and that the Texas D line has the edge there too.

USC's O line, the unit that's responsible for producing all those yardage and points records while keeping Leinart's uniform clean...

They're overrated. Uh huh.

[T REX]

Texas didn't leave their starters in as long to pad their stats.

Saw Leinert in with 12:30 left in the 4th up by a million and was questioning it...........I thought it was poor or just plain stupid. Either way, I was wondering what the hell Carroll was doing.

[Laxplayer]

Vito....we heard all this last year when SC beat OU like a runaway slave. Don't get to hyped up over thinking Texa$ has a snow ball's chance in hell because they don't. Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. Texa$ will get ass raped in this one. Maybe they'll hang 60 on you. Then start the 2nd half.

[Adelpiero]

Isn't there a "gone forever" sig bet between Van and the Tejas fans?





If so, Go Horns






Hook'em

[Vito Corleone]

All anyone needs to know about Vito's little synopsis there is that he graded out the coaching as "Even" and USC's QB and receivers vs Texas' DB's as "Even".

My, those sound like reasonable conclusions!



Oh, but hey, he also said USC's O line is overrated and that the Texas D line has the edge there too.

USC's O line, the unit that's responsible for producing all those yardage and points records while keeping Leinart's uniform clean...

They're overrated. Uh huh.

Yet you can't come up with anything to dispute it, except for pointing to the results from last season.

[Vito Corleone]

Vito....we heard all this last year when SC beat OU like a runaway slave. Don't get to hyped up over thinking Texa$ has a snow ball's chance in hell because they don't. Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. Texa$ will get ass raped in this one. Maybe they'll hang 60 on you. Then start the 2nd half.

What does last year have to do with this year. Two completely different teams with completely different players. Even the ones that partisipated last year are different this year. Last year the USC defense was ranked 13 in total defense this year they are in the mid 40's.

This game is about matchups and Texas matches up better than OU did last year.

[Harvdog]

Vito....we heard all this last year when SC beat OU like a runaway slave. Don't get to hyped up over thinking Texa$ has a snow ball's chance in hell because they don't. Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. Texa$ will get ass raped in this one. Maybe they'll hang 60 on you. Then start the 2nd half.

What does last year have to do with this year. Two completely different teams with completely different players. Even the ones that partisipated last year are different this year. Last year the USC defense was ranked 13 in total defense this year they are in the mid 40's.

This game is about matchups and Texas matches up better than OU did last year.

Amen.

Van, you keep bringing up a game that took place a year ago that pitted USC against last years OU team. Granted, they beat us. In fact, they are the last team to do that. That was 18 games ago. Vince is so much better and the team has matured it is ridiculous.

Texas is better than you think.

[Laxplayer]

Now please understand that I absolutely hate SC with a dying passion, however I'm also a realist.
Please remember this. Pete Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. As far as last years game goes.....leinhart, Bush, White, Jarrett, Byrd, Justice, Bing, Rucker, Ellis etc.....among others. YOu can't stop Bush. the only way he can be stopped is if the bus gets lost on the way to Pasadena and if that happens he's got so much speed that he can run there in under 5 minutes. Did I mention that Pete Carroll has 4, that's right 4 weeks to prepare for you guys. He will have a game plan that includes lubing up the a$$holes of the long horns. This game is over in the middle of the 3rd quarter.
Now, I'll be rooting hard for Texas but $C just violates people.

[Van]

Isn't there a "gone forever" sig bet between Van and the Tejas fans?

No, it's not between me and all Texas fans. I called out Vito, and only Vito.

He pussed out.

[Van]

All anyone needs to know about Vito's little synopsis there is that he graded out the coaching as "Even" and USC's QB and receivers vs Texas' DB's as "Even".

My, those sound like reasonable conclusions!



Oh, but hey, he also said USC's O line is overrated and that the Texas D line has the edge there too.

USC's O line, the unit that's responsible for producing all those yardage and points records while keeping Leinart's uniform clean...

They're overrated. Uh huh.

Yet you can't come up with anything to dispute it, except for pointing to the results from last season.

The hell I can't.

This year USC's offensive line is responsible for the best CF offense ever. Nobody but nobody considers Texas' current D line or any aspect of their defense to be among the best ever.

This year USC still has the Heisman Trophy winner and the first QB that'll be taken in the NFL draft. This year USC still has one of the best receiving corps in the nation. This year Texas' DB's are not considered to be on the same level as Matt Leinart and USC's receivers, who are considered to be the very best in the nation.

This year USC is still coached by Pete Carroll, the guy who's led USC to another #1 ranking while maintaining the longest winning streak of the modern era. This year Texas is still coached by Mack Brown.

USC has a better running attack, both inside and outside. They have a better passing attack. They have better coaching. They're more explosive. They dominate in turnover ratio. They have the most efficient and dominating offensive line in recent history. They have more big game experience. They have one of the most mistake proof QBs in the history of the game while Texas is led by a mistake prone RB masquerading as a QB, a guy who's prone to turning the ball over...

The game will be played in the Rose Bowl.

Advantage USC, practically everywhere.

[Van]

Vito....we heard all this last year when SC beat OU like a runaway slave. Don't get to hyped up over thinking Texa$ has a snow ball's chance in hell because they don't. Carroll has 4 weeks to prepare. Texa$ will get ass raped in this one. Maybe they'll hang 60 on you. Then start the 2nd half.

What does last year have to do with this year. Two completely different teams with completely different players. Even the ones that partisipated last year are different this year. Last year the USC defense was ranked 13 in total defense this year they are in the mid 40's.

This game is about matchups and Texas matches up better than OU did last year.

Amen.

Van, you keep bringing up a game that took place a year ago that pitted USC against last years OU team. Granted, they beat us. In fact, they are the last team to do that. That was 18 games ago. Vince is so much better and the team has matured it is ridiculous.

Texas is better than you think.

How do you know? Really, How in the hell do you know? Vince looks the same as last year. He looks no different.

The only difference is there's no OU team standing in front of Texas this year. If OU was still as good as they've been in recent years you'd again have your one loss and OU would again take the asskicking you're about to receive...

You guys got better in terms of addition by subtraction within the conference, is all. There's nothing else to point to this year that says you're any better than last year. Last year's Texas team would've still won all the same games they won this year.

The difference is OU, period. They stepped aside and gave you your undefeated Big XII season.

[Vito Corleone]

This year USC's offensive line is responsible for the best CF offense ever. Nobody but nobody considers Texas' current D line or any aspect of their defense to be among the best ever.

Funny but according to the NCAA.org http://ncaasports.com/football/mens/stats/stats

Your full of it
#1 in total offense is 1989 U of Houston with 6874
#1 in scoring offense is 83 Nebraska who scored a total of 624 pts
THis year its the TEXAS LONGHORNS who Lead the Nation in Scoring not USC. So I think you mean its The TEXAS offensive line that is responsible for the best CF offense this year.

This year USC still has the Heisman Trophy winner and the first QB that'll be taken in the NFL draft. This year USC still has one of the best receiving corps in the nation. This year Texas' DB's are not considered to be on the same level as Matt Leinart and USC's receivers, who are considered to be the very best in the nation.

We shall see about the Heisman, but lots of teams have had the Heisman trophy winner and lost. As for your receiving corp, I never doubted their talent, but Texas has the best secondary in college football according to NFL scouts. Again, the USC receiving corp is not as good as you think they are, infact most NFL scouts would say that Miami and Ohio State have better receiving corps. Texas has 6 NFL quality DBs it can throw at USC.

This year USC is still coached by Pete Carroll, the guy who's led USC to another #1 ranking while maintaining the longest winning streak of the modern era. This year Texas is still coached by Mack Brown.

Keep telling yourself this, if it helps you sleep better at night. I'm not losing any sleep at night. Mack has coached Texas for 8 years and has never had a bad season. He has averaged 10 wins a year in those 8 years.

USC has a better running attack, both inside and outside.

Better than who, not Texas. Texas has the #3 rushing offense in the country. USC is #4. And Texas has earned its ranking by facing an average defensive ranking of 44 while USC earned their ranking facing an average defense of 72.

They have a better passing attack.

Yes, USC has the #4 passing offense in the country, while Texas has the #41 best passing offense but Texas has the #5 pass defense while USC has the #75 best pass defense (if you can call 75 best).

They have better coaching.

USC is riding a 33 game win streak, The Texas coaches are riding a 20 game win streak. Gene Chizik is riding a 30 game win streak. I still have not seen any proof that Pete Carroll is better than Mack. Who are some of the good coaches Carroll has beaten? Mack has beaten Stoops, Carr, Tressel, Tom Osborne, RC Slocam, and Nick Saban.

They're more explosive.

Prove it, I have not seen any stats that can prove or disprove this claim, What I can prove is that Texas is a better scoring offense than USC is.

They dominate in turnover ratio.

Finally you got something right, but Since Texas is the statistically superior defense and since Texas averages less than 1 turnover per game I don't see how this matters.

They have the most efficient and dominating offensive line in recent history.

Not according to statistics but that won't stop you from believing your BS. Texas is a better rushing team and has given up less Sacks than USC Oline has.

They have more big game experience.

No they don't, Texas has already played in 3 of the biggest games in college football in the last 12 months. USC has not played in a big game since last years BCS title game.

They have one of the most mistake proof QBs in the history of the game while Texas is led by a mistake prone RB masquerading as a QB, a guy who's prone to turning the ball over...

More BS look at the stats, Vince threw 10 ints this year, Matt threw 7. Vince faced the superior defenses this year.

The game will be played in the Rose Bowl.

Vince owns the Rose Bowl

Advantage USC, practically everywhere.

Not according to statistics or NFL scouts.

[Harvdog]

How do you know? Really, How in the hell do you know? Vince looks the same as last year. He looks no different.

Then you have not watched a second of Texas this year. You stated in an earlier rant that you werern'tusing OU for all your arguments, but that is all you talk about. Vince is 1000 times better. The funny thing is you can't get your mouth off Pete's crank to change the channel and see other games other than USC. Plus I hope it turns out like last year because we won our last game and that was the Rose Bowl. Also, how is it that he is a finalist for the Heisman and can't play? The only reason Reggie is going to win is because he put up huge numbers against Freseck. The sad thing is that he needed to be in the game to assure a win against a team that lost to Oregon, Nevada, and La Tech. I only wish Vince could have stayed in most of Texas' games to pad his stats like Reggie against UCLA. He would have better numbers. But since we suck we had to take him out in the 3rd quarter in most games while Reggie is beating on the children of the blind.

The only difference is there's no OU team standing in front of Texas this year. If OU was still as good as they've been in recent years you'd again have your one loss and OU would again take the asskicking you're about to receive...

God, you are so stupid. They aren't in front of us because we beat them. Kind of like Cal. SC lucks out and barely wins last year. The year before SC loses to Cal. Sounds to me like a nemesis. But here you go again basing all your arguments on OU. It is old and played out. Come up with some thing else.

You guys got better in terms of addition by subtraction within the conference, is all. There's nothing else to point to this year that says you're any better than last year. Last year's Texas team would've still won all the same games they won this year.

The difference is OU, period. They stepped aside and gave you your undefeated Big XII season.

To borrow from someone else. Van, you ignorant slut. I swear trying to talk to you and get a response other than..

"Pete has 4 weeks and you have Mack."
"We are the most explosive offense of all time."
"Vince isn't good"
"The BigXII sucks"
"We beat OU last year"

I feel like Eminen in 8 Mile. The only difference is I don't need Cheddar Bob to tell me what you are going to bring. I know what you are going to say. So go back to your crib, get a new argument and come back and post when you can say something that you haven't already said 96 times.

[Cicero]

I still have not seen any proof that Pete Carroll is better than Mack.

I laughed.



Just my two cents as a casual observer. Both teams have awesome fire power on the offensive side of the ball. USC's offense is a juggernaut and I think this Texas team is better than last year's OU team. I think that the battle between USC's O-Line and Texas' D-Line will be the factor in the game. I see it being a high scoring affair w/ USC coming out on top b/c they take care of the ball better and have the EDGE in the Intangibles Dept i.e. destiny, experience in big games, great coach, 1st two picks in the NFL Draft. It wont be a blowout though.


USC 37
UT 31

[Vito Corleone]

I still have not seen any proof that Pete Carroll is better than Mack.

I laughed.



Just my two cents as a casual observer. Both teams have awesome fire power on the offensive side of the ball. USC's offense is a juggernaut and I think this Texas team is better than last year's OU team. I think that the battle between USC's O-Line and Texas' D-Line will be the factor in the game. I see it being a high scoring affair w/ USC coming out on top b/c they take care of the ball better and have the EDGE in the Intangibles Dept i.e. destiny, experience in big games, great coach, 1st two picks in the NFL Draft. It wont be a blowout though.


USC 37
UT 31

Think about this for a second, if, and I mean big if, it was Mack that hired Norm Chow instead of NCSU back in the 90's when Mack first came to Texas. It would be everyone here slobbing on Mack's schlong and not carroll because it would be Texas with the monster winning streak not USC. Fact is the only difference between Pete Carroll and Paul Hackett is Norm Chow.

Thus I said that its not Pete Carroll vs Mack Brown, its the Texas coaching staff vs the USC coaching staff. And I will go on record that this is the finest coaching staff in the country (excluding Greg Davis).

[Cicero]

I still have not seen any proof that Pete Carroll is better than Mack.

I laughed.



Just my two cents as a casual observer. Both teams have awesome fire power on the offensive side of the ball. USC's offense is a juggernaut and I think this Texas team is better than last year's OU team. I think that the battle between USC's O-Line and Texas' D-Line will be the factor in the game. I see it being a high scoring affair w/ USC coming out on top b/c they take care of the ball better and have the EDGE in the Intangibles Dept i.e. destiny, experience in big games, great coach, 1st two picks in the NFL Draft. It wont be a blowout though.


USC 37
UT 31

Think about this for a second, if, and I mean big if, it was Mack that hired Norm Chow instead of NCSU back in the 90's when Mack first came to Texas. It would be everyone here slobbing on Mack's schlong and not carroll because it would be Texas with the monster winning streak not USC. Fact is the only difference between Pete Carroll and Paul Hackett is Norm Chow.

Thus I said that its not Pete Carroll vs Mack Brown, its the Texas coaching staff vs the USC coaching staff. And I will go on record that this is the finest coaching staff in the country (excluding Greg Davis).

Ummm well Mack didnt and Carroll did. Bode Pete and USC's def is also a big reason they have had the success the past 3 years. Mack has one conf championship and one big bowl win and both those came in the past 11 months. I'd say its safe to admit that Pete and his staff is better.

[Jimmy Medalions]

Let's review some of Vito's idiotic takes thusfar:

- We shall see about the Heisman
- Mack has coached Texas for 8 years and has never had a bad season
- I still have not seen any proof that Pete Carroll is better than Mack
- Who are some of the good coaches Carroll has beaten?
- USC has not played in a big game since last years BCS title game
- Vince owns the Rose Bowl
- NFL scouts

All I can say is...

It's clear Vito doesn't know jack shit about his own team, and didn't even start looking at the statistics until I pointed him to the NCAA web site. Simply priceless.

Let's address his idiocy in order:
- Vince is not winning the Heisman. Next...
- Mack has coached 8 seasons with ZERO MNC's and ZERO conference championships. Pete Carroll has won 2 MNC's, and 4 conference championships in only five seasons. No comparison. Next...
- You are an absolute moron. See previous proof. Next...
- Jeff Tedford, Bill Snyder, Mike Bellotti, Tommy Tubberville :roll: , Lloyd Carr :roll: , Kirk Ferentz, Frank Beamer, Bob Stoops, Charlie Weis. Next...
- You're right. The Notre Dame game had no stakes involved at all. How many top-10 BCS teams were on your schedule? We have two to your one. You couldn't be more stupid. Next...
- Vince owns the Rose Bowl when his team won a year ago by one point?
- Drop a few more non-linked NFL scouts comments, wouldya? In case you had't noticed, it isn't important what the kids do in the NFL. It's important what they do in college. Of course, if Carroll had ZERO to show for his last eight years...I guess I'd care about future NFL sucess as much as you do. That or you can't back your shit up so you use an arbitrary and meaningless argument.

[indyfrisco]

Texas has 113 starters that will be NFL first round picks.

So who wins the Super Bowl next year? Iowa or Texas?

[Killian]

So who wins the Super Bowl next year? Iowa or Texas?

Mini-Ditka.

[Jimmy Medalions]

Texas has 113 starters that will be NFL first round picks.

So who wins the Super Bowl next year? Iowa or Texas?

[Cicero]

Let's address his idiocy in order:
- Jeff Tedford, Bill Snyder, Mike Bellotti, Tommy Tubberville :roll: , Lloyd Carr :roll: , Kirk Ferentz, Frank Beamer, Charlie Weis. Next...

Dont forget about Bob Stoops.