Poll Question: Has your opinion of Mack Brown changed

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:54 pm

Your opinion of Mack Brown as a coach

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Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:02 pm

In the college game recruiting is at least as important as coaching.

Mack Brown - excellent recruiter....good coach.

The same can be said of Pete Carroll.

For great coaches look to the NFL.

Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Parcells
Bill Belichick
Vince Lombardi

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:04 pm

To answer my own question, I pick B, he is a good coach. He is a great recruiter and he has great coaches around him who he lets do their job.

I will say this about both Mack and Greg Davis; just as a coach can make a player better, I think a player can make a coach better. In many ways Vince Young has made Mack a better coach by teaching him to mellow out and not be so sensitive to criticism. Time will tell but Mack has been pretty consistant at Texas over the years, only now he seems to be enjoying his job a lot more.

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:04 pm

A-

This year changed my opinion a lot, well including the Rose bowl from last year. You guys had a great season and as much as Vince led you, Mack kept all the gears oiled.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:04 pm

Joe in PB wrote:In the college game recruiting is at least as important as coaching.

Mack Brown - excellent recruiter....good coach.

The same can be said of Pete Carroll.

For great coaches look to the NFL.

Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Parcells
Bill Belichick
Vince Lombardi

So there are no "great" coaches in college football or it's history?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:06 pm

I'm going to say great coach. He's already proven he can field consistently winning, major bowl game teams, he just needed the NC to top things off, and now that he's got that, I think he's elevated his status.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:07 pm

B

My opinion has changed. He reminds me a little of Bobby. Great recruiter but took a while to win the big game.

Good coach though.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:11 pm

My one abiding, palpable criticism...the choice of Simms over Applewhite.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:36 pm

Killian wrote:
Joe in PB wrote:In the college game recruiting is at least as important as coaching.

Mack Brown - excellent recruiter....good coach.

The same can be said of Pete Carroll.

For great coaches look to the NFL.

Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Parcells
Bill Belichick
Vince Lombardi
So there are no "great" coaches in college football or it's history?

Sure there are, but most have already seen their best days.

Bear Bryant
Jo Pa
Bobby Bowden

Obviously there are more but those were the 3 off the top of my head.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:38 pm

Okay. It just seemed you implied that only great coaches coach in the NFL. I get it now.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:43 pm

I just believe being a HC in the NFL is tougher. The draft where the best teams pick last and parity make it so, and to achieve a consistent level of success takes great coaching. .......More so than at the college level IMO.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:44 pm

Honestly, my opinion of Mack Brown hasn't changed.

I never thought he was a bad coach. A great recruiter...Average in gameday decisions.

I didn't think he called a particularly brilliant game last night, Vince Young just took over. Actually, I still say both field goal attempts were the wrong call. It worked out when they were able to stuff White on that 4th and 2, but at the time he kicked those neither team could stop each other. Chosing to kick 2 field goals when SC is likely still going to score could have lost that game for Texas.

The only real differences between Mack Brown this year and Mack Brown in the past are, 1. Vince Young and 2. Oklahoma (8-4).

if Vince learned from Leinart, he will go pro this year, then we'll see if our opinions of Mack should change.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:50 pm

JayDuck wrote:Honestly, my opinion of Mack Brown hasn't changed.

I never thought he was a bad coach. A great recruiter...Average in gameday decisions.

I didn't think he called a particularly brilliant game last night

This isn't all based on one game, pal. He engineered a 13-0 team.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:55 pm

Yeah... Mack joins the proverbial ranks now in my opinion. He's above a "good" coach, but below a "great" one. Hell, the way the real Vinsanity was playing ball last night, I think that I could have coached Tejas to the Crystal Ball, and I'd have been trying to make them lose. :D

the_ouskull

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:32 pm

Great coach. And I thought I'd never say that. Before this season, most of us thought he was Texas' version of John Cooper.

He kept his team focused at some very critical points of this season. They were extremely close to losing in the 'Shoe. Down big on the road to Okie State. Down 12 to the defending national champions with six minutes to go last night.

Ask me a year ago what I think would happen in those situations, and I'd say choke. But that didn't happen. Mack kept his cool, stayed mellow, stayed focused. And his team, most especially his quarterback, fed off that.

Van · Post by **Van** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:23 pm

The monkey is well and truly off Mack's back now so any further talk of him being a poor/overmatched coach must now cease.

He and his staff had a better game than Pete and his staff.

Mack's now among the elite. Case closed.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:20 pm

Great coach. Most wins over the past 5 years and a NC. Lock it up.