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Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:02 am

Gerald McCoy is a Trojan? It's all over the Sooner boards now and, if true, would be an epic KABOOOM for the Trojans.

I always thought the guy was an OU lock.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:04 am

all over Rivals too, apparently someone on GaryP's board said McCoy was telling Allen Bradford and his dad that he was going to go to USC, if its just a wearesc rumor, it may be more wishfull thinking. But Ill gladly except the big fella in to the Trojan Family

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:24 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:Hadn't seen it yet, and I'd be pretty surprised. The last thing I'd heard was that it was between OU and LSU.

So, SoCalTrjn, are you going to demand that McCoy count double towards the 85-man limit because he's from out of state?

USC is a private school, they charge the same for tuition no matter where you're from

Beleive the Heupel wrote:Not saying it's not true, and I HAD heard that McCoy's final 3 was OU, LSU, and USC, but I'd also heard that USC was running a distant second.

Is USC #2 or #3 with this young man?
I have seen that he had just SC and OU since he dropped ND (and LSU) but I beleived all the OU fans here when he said he was just using the Trojans for the free trip to LA

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:36 am

They may get some state money at those schools, USC charges the same no matter where you live
http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/Col ... rofileId=2

but according to that site, Alaska Pacific charges the same for out of state as instate as well

I know that BYU charged more for non Mormons than they did for Mormons, does Notre Dame charge more for non Catholics?

Oklahoma charges nearly 3 times as much for out of state students so 1 of their out of state scholarships should count as 3

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:13 am

From what I understand all private colleges charge the same whether you're out of state or in state. It's the public schools that charge more.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:15 am

but private schools can charge more based on other criteria like religion....(BYU)

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:36 pm

ND's the same for everyone across the board.

As far as McCoy, it looks to be a rumor at this point. The post on the Sooner board was pulled quickly and they still feel pretty confident about him.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:10 pm

Guys there isn't a peep of this anywhere other than wearesc. Insiders hasn't reported it.

I personally like our chances at McCoy now. I didn't before the Army All Statr game. The black family offset from Murray's family when he declared to OU was McCoy's family and they were more excited when Murray declared than his people at the game. Just food for thought. Personally I am just shocked he has told Notre Dame that he is no longer interested in attending there. Notre Dame fans have gone one of two ways on this... A) they didn't really want him

or B) He is still going to be in South Bend it is just hush hush

.

Jackie Shipp and McCoy are also very close from what I understand.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:16 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote: Personally I am just shocked he has told Notre Dame that he is no longer interested in attending there. Notre Dame fans have gone one of two ways on this... A) they didn't really want him or B) He is still going to be in South Bend it is just hush hush .

Me too. He would be the 3rd man in the DT rotation with a chance to unseat Trevor Laws. Oh well.

Yeah, I'm assuming you're getting that off the rivals board? They are fucking horrible. That board will implode after McCoy commits elsewhere. ND fans don't like being lied to and that's what they are doing right now. He is damn sure not a silent and we did want him. That's why ND told Butch Lewis he couldn't commit, pissed him off and pushed him to SC. Most ND fans suck.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:24 pm

Killian wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote: Personally I am just shocked he has told Notre Dame that he is no longer interested in attending there. Notre Dame fans have gone one of two ways on this... A) they didn't really want him or B) He is still going to be in South Bend it is just hush hush .
Me too. He would be the 3rd man in the DT rotation with a chance to unseat Trevor Laws. Oh well.

Yeah, I'm assuming you're getting that off the rivals board? They are fucking horrible. That board will implode after McCoy commits elsewhere. ND fans don't like being lied to and that's what they are doing right now. He is damn sure not a silent and we did want him. That's why ND told Butch Lewis he couldn't commit, pissed him off and pushed him to SC. Most ND fans suck.

He has a chance to take a starters position at OU as well. Hell he has a chance to be starter next year just about no matter where he attends. He might be the next coming of Lee Roy Selmon if Saturday was any indication.

From listening to his interviews both on television and on premium sites a couple of weeks ago I thought he was just short of a Notre Dame lock. You guys were certainly the leaders a month ago by all indications. He gushed all over the academics at Notre Dame on OKC local television.

I wonder what changed?

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:32 pm

Same thing happend with Lewis Baker. We don't have very good luck when it comes to going up against OU. Who knows. Maybe he'll flip flop again. Weis has put together a very good class. If he strikes out at DT, this class will lose a lot of luster. DT and OL were the two key positions, recruiting wise, coming into this season where ND had to hit a homerun. If McCoy flips us the bird, that's a big swing and a miss, especially because of what transpired with Butch Lewis.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:00 pm

I've never heard that about Bettis. The story around here was that Bettis was flip flopping between ND and UofM. Finally his Dad got pissed, put each hat on the kitchen table and told Jerome that one had better be gone by the time he got up to go to work the next day, and that would be his college choice. When Mr. Bettis got up, the ND hat was gone.

Yeah, Baker commited to Ty on his official visit but asked to keep it under wraps. The next week he went to OU and publicly commited to OU. It's funny that he's playing SS for OU. ND was looking at him as a will linebacker.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:07 pm

Killian wrote:I've never heard that about Bettis. The story around here was that Bettis was flip flopping between ND and UofM. Finally his Dad got pissed, put each hat on the kitchen table and told Jerome that one had better be gone by the time he got up to go to work the next day, and that would be his college choice. When Mr. Bettis got up, the ND hat was gone.

Yeah, Baker commited to Ty on his official visit but asked to keep it under wraps. The next week he went to OU and publicly commited to OU. It's funny that he's playing SS for OU. ND was looking at him as a will linebacker.

We wanted him for Will as well but he has not been able to add any significant weight onto his frame. I'm sure Notre Dame was expecting him to bulk up as well for the will; not many sub 230lbs. kids playing LB at the D1A level.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:10 pm

He was commited for all of 3-4 days, but he did tell Ty he was coming. Luckily for Baker, he saw the trainwreck before anyone else.

It was funny reading his bio and seeing him listed as a 200lb LB prospect.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:13 pm

Killian wrote:He was commited for all of 3-4 days, but he did tell Ty he was coming. Luckily for Baker, he saw the trainwreck before anyone else.

It was funny reading his bio and seeing him listed as a 200lb LB prospect.

He can lay the hammer Killian. But he is atrocious in coverage.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:19 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote: He can lay the hammer Killian. But he is atrocious in coverage.

He'd fit right in with ND's safeties. Hell, at least Baker can lay the wood. Ndukwe can't even do that.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:29 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:You know, the only bust I can really remember him having was against Baylor. It was a big bust, but after that I thought he was OK.

Maybe he didn't see the field after that.

He had 2 big busts against Texass, was caught in the wrong position umerous times against TCU and was yanked mid way trough the Tulsa game because he couldn't cover.

Your right he didn't see nearly as much of the field after he almost cost us the game against Booler.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:38 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:No kidding? Alaska Pacific is a private school and they charge a fuckload more for out of state tuition. I'm pretty sure that Notre Dame used to charge more for out-of-staters as well.

If that's true, it's definitely before my time, and I'm an old fukk.

Only about 10% of Notre Dame's student body is from Indiana, btw, and if anything, that's probably a generous estimate.

Believe the Heupel wrote:Well, fuck. All I know is that all of 'em were out of my price range when I was shopping around.

Mine too, which is why I went through ND on a NROTC scholarship.

I could've gone to some other places without that commitment, but I really wanted to go to ND.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:45 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:but private schools can charge more based on other criteria like religion....(BYU)

AFAIK, ND doesn't do that, even though a Catholic school.

Having said that, ND is unusual in that the student body still runs about 93% Catholic. Factor out varsity athletes and foreign students, and I'm sure the percentage gets higher.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:48 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:That's right-that TD right before the half against Texas was his bust, wasn't it?

Maybe with an offseason working on it he'll be better, but OU has a lot of talent at safety with Nic Harris and Reggie Smith.

Actually it was Reggie who had the bust right before the half against Texass. He was in the wrong zone coverage set and left his zone wide open.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:16 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:You guys were in on Lewis Baker? No kidding. I didn't know that.

McCoy is a good 'un, but I don't know if I'd take his AAA game performance as a true indicator. The East OL was woeful.

And hey, it's not as if you've struck out on EVERY player ND went head to head on with OU. I read an interview with Jerome Bettis that said he was an OU lock right up until signing day.

Oh, and I'm going to say that because private schools are more expensive than public schools, they should only be allowed 42.5 counters in football. ;) That, or only give half scholarships.

We were in on Bettis but the prevailing thought was that it was UofM or OU and Notre Dame was just in the hunt. We all know how that turned out.

Notre Dame was also very successful in getting kids from Jenks. For a number of years in the late 90s Jenks was a factory almost exclusivly to Notre Dame and Oklahoma. When we played them in '99 the television commentators commented a number of times that there were something like 9 kids between the two teams from Jenks. Notre Dame also used to be one of the schools that would place kids at NEO, I believe, as well.

Believe the Heupel wrote:Like I said-I blacked the whole thing out.

I've tried. Should have seen Lynx at half time (from the old board sooner board), he looked morbid, you'd have thought someone shot his dog.