Dubya knew about how crappy NO was gonna get

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:43 pm

you know things aren't going well when mvs goes to the 4 consecutive posts card......

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:51 pm

BSmack wrote:
As coastal Louisiana begins to recover from this disaster, the voters in Louisiana are beginning to re-evaluate their choice of leaders.
Hey, there's nothing wrong with op-ed pieces. Advocacy is a part of every good editorial. But don't expect us to take your op-ed pieces as gospel.

Careful, B. This is the Northside Journal after all. There's no more credible bastion of journalism than that.

And yes, statements without attribution do constitute opinion.

Sincerely,

MA

High school journalism student

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:56 pm

Felix wrote:you know things aren't going well when mvs goes to the 4 consecutive posts card......

The Detard is strong with that one.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:04 pm

Aw, come ON - the National Guard was poised to help victims, but couldn't because the governor didn't allow them entrance?

Try again, pea brain.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:12 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:They didn't try to federalize the NG. They didn't need her permission to do that.
Wrong on both counts.

No I'm not. Try the insurrection act on for size.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:19 pm

No you do not:

§ 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

§ 333. Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

§ 334. Proclamation to disperse

Whenever the President considers it necessary to use the militia or the armed forces under this chapter, he shall, by proclamation, immediately order the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time.

sin,

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:04 pm

This:

Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

Is in conflict with this:

August 27, 2005

The President The White House Washington, D. C.

Through: Regional Director FEMA Region VI 800 North Loop 288 Denton, Texas 76209

Dear Mr. President:

Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. �� 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR � 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina. In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in order to support the evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the state to support the State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan.

Pursuant to 44 CFR � 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal. Preliminary estimates of the types and amount of emergency assistance needed under the Stafford Act, and emergency assistance from certain Federal agencies under other statutory authorities are tabulated in Enclosure A.

The difference being the first are a couple of Washington post hacks, the second is an authentic, dated letter.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:07 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:The difference being the first are a couple of Washington post hacks, the second is an authentic, dated letter.

I don't think we can trust the Washington Post's liberal agenda. I'd go with the letters.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:19 pm

Please to be explaining the difference between Blanco requesting federal assistance (the Letter) and Blanco
Refusing it ( your op ed sources).

Nevermind.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:06 pm

Well, trying to steer this back to the original point

They've got video of Bush being advised of the potential for the levee's breaking.....

The question is, how can Bush's statement

"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"

be anything other than an outright baldfaced lie.........

you want to field this one meltcal....

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:11 pm

Felix wrote:Well, trying to steer this back to the original point

They've got video of Bush being advised of the potential for the levee's breaking.....

The question is, how can Bush's statement

"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"
be anything other than an outright baldfaced lie.........

you want to field this one meltcal....

I think mv's response would be this...

BTW: Nobody could have anticipated planes being used to topple buildings either.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:19 am

mvscal wrote:Who didn't know a monster hurricane was bearing down on New Orleans...well, besides Nagin and Blanco.

Exactly. Watch fucking TV. You dont need the President to tell you to get your coon ass up and get the fuck out of dodge.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:23 pm

For the record, the Chimp is fingering a G# chord (which will sound really crappy if played in this form, because of course the natural G major triad will sound as well on the open strings...aw forget it).

I'd say it's an OFFICIAL ass-kicking if mscval can't get off the canvass and respond in some slimey fashion as to the simple:

Felix wrote:
Well, trying to steer this back to the original point

They've got video of Bush being advised of the potential for the levee's breaking.....

"The question is, how can Bush's statement

Quote:
"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"

be anything other than an outright baldfaced lie.........

you want to field this one meltcal...."

Don't hold your breath.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:33 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:For the record, the Chimp is fingering a G# chord (which will sound really crappy if played in this form, because of course the natural G major triad will sound as well on the open strings...aw forget it).

That was pretty much my point. Unless he plans on playing the E and A strings only, that is not a cord with what I am assuming was a standard EADGBE tuning. And I seriously doubt that Chimpy was planning on dropping any power chords on us.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:06 pm

A G chord? Not exactly. He's one fret off...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:40 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:A G chord? Not exactly. He's one fret off...

Nah, it's the ever popular G#/G all purpose photo op cord.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:08 am

He was really just giving you the finger for calling him Chimpy all these years, Monica.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:47 am

And more lies from Chimpy are being exposed.

"The president said, 'I need to hear from Brown right now what's going on.' I said, 'Mr. President, my estimate is that 90 percent -- 90 percent -- of the population of New Orleans has now been displaced.' And there was just that split second of silence. And [then], '90 percent?' 'Yes sir, that's how bad it is.' "

-- Brownie,

And...

"Listen, we weren't getting good, solid information from people who were on the ground. Communications systems got wiped out, and in many cases we were relying upon the media..."

-- Dubya, lying again to ABC's Elizabeth Vargas

Well well well.