Senate permits national debt to grow to $9 trillion

4 king guy · Post by **4 king guy** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:38 pm

$9,000,000,000,000!!!

That's alot of zeroes!!

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The bill passed by a 52-48 vote. The increase to $9 trillion represents about $30,000 for every man, woman and child in the United States. The bill now goes to President Bush for his signature.

The measure allows the government to pay for the war in Iraq and finance Medicare and other big federal programs without raising taxes. It passed hours before the House was expected to approve another $91 billion to fund the war in Iraq and provide more aid to hurricane victims.

The partisan vote also came as the Senate continued debate on a $2.8 trillion budget blueprint for the upcoming fiscal year that would produce a $359 billion deficit for the fiscal year beginning October 1.

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When do we have to pay this DEBT???

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:44 pm

No problem. When we cut taxes, we will get more gross revenues.

Sincerely,
Tried a couple times since Reagan was elected and has yet to happen.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:49 pm

In case you're wondering which presidents have been primarily responsible for raising the debt so high, the two Bushs ALONE are responsible for nearly half of it:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:11 pm

mvscal wrote: Actually, it works every time, but you're a dumbfuck and nobody expects an informed opinion from you anyway.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:56 pm

Yeah it works just fine, check the chart.

Reagan and the Bushies took us from $1 trillion to a projected $10 trillion debt.

Trickle down, stay the course, thousand points ah light, com-passhun.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:00 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:Yeah it works just fine, check the chart.

Reagan and the Bushies took us from $1 trillion to a projected $10 trillion debt.

Trickle down, stay the course, thousand points ah light, com-passhun.

don't forget "fiscally conservative" too......

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:09 pm

Bush and his dad are liars. They don't give a fuck what the deficit grows to. Most republicans will concede this point - all of them except the most ardent Bush glans-polishers like mvscal.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:18 pm

Yeah. It just shows ineptness.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:38 pm

mvscal wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Yeah it works just fine, check the chart.

The chart doesn't show revenue, idiot.

You're right, at least partly. It shows the difference between revenue and expenditures.

By that measure Bush is the most profligate motherfucker in the history of the world.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:38 pm

mvscal wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Yeah it works just fine, check the chart.

The chart doesn't show revenue, idiot.

it also doesn't show policies put into effect under one administration that would cause the debt to grow in the future.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:46 pm

titlover wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:Yeah it works just fine, check the chart.

The chart doesn't show revenue, idiot.
it also doesn't show policies put into effect under one administration that would cause the debt to grow in the future.

Like, which ones? Oh, you mean Bubba's Booby Trap, right?
The old explodo debt trick that goes on for a full eight years after it's placed.
Bubba much have been pretty damn brilliant to still be ruining Dubya's budget even now.

Idiot.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:08 pm

mvscal wrote:True. Fortunately we were spared what would have been an even more profligate Kerry Adminstration.

You have absolutely no basis for that assumption. The last three Presidents to submit balanced budgets were all Democrats. In contrast, the Presidents who have run up the largest deficits (by any measure you wish to employ) have all been Republicans. The most recent of which has done so with the full approval of a GOP led Congress.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:11 pm

BSmack wrote: The most recent of which has done so with the full approval of a GOP led Congress.

Which has also resulted in the largest and fastest increase in the debt.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:35 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:You have absolutely no basis for that assumption.
Wrong. His own spending proposals are the basis for that assumption.

Judging a politican based on campaign promises is pretty fucking stupid. That would be like me expecting Bush to be a "compassionate conservative". All you have are your suppositions. I have 35 years of American history to back me up.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:49 am

Suppose being the key word.

Husker4ever · Post by **Husker4ever** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:25 am

Well now that Bush is cutting WIC, elderly, and Veterans benefits to help build Iraq into the flowering democracy that it is, we can all rest easy as the poor and elderly take it on the chin and Bush moves to hold down his 9 gazillion dollar debt.

Sincerely,

Just another registered Republican.

Husker4ever · Post by **Husker4ever** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:28 am

Bush sucks a fat cock when it comes to being POTUS. I don't care how hospitable he is at the ranch or how nice a pie momma Barb makes.

I voted for the man and have been let down....downright embarrassed.

Please tell me what he has accomplished so I can be informed.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:39 am

Don't mind mvscal, Husker. He hates everyone.

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:30 am

Mister Bushice wrote:Don't mind mvscal, Husker. He hates everyone.

Even himself. He got up one morning and realized he hadn't sold his Cavalier yet and punched himself in the face: "What part of failure do you not understand? Dumbfuck!"

Then he did the truffle shuffle getting on his work shirt and put 10 pounds of grease in his hair and gingerly went on his way.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:37 am

He got up one morning and realized he hadn't sold his Cavalier yet and punched himself in the face: "What part of failure do you not understand? Dumbfuck!"

You whiff so many times with your swings at mvscal, but that one hit the funnay.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:25 pm

So we're supposed to believe that Kerry was promising to spend an assload of cash just to get elected and then he would morph into a fiscal conservative once in office?!?

Yeah, that "morphing" stuff is indeed very strange:

"I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building."
- George W. Bush, 2000

"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is going around the world saying this is the way its gotta be."
- George W. Bush, 2000

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:29 pm

mvscal wrote:And then one morning 3,000 New Yorkers were murdered by Islamist fanatics.

If that event didn't change your outlook on foreign policy, you're a fucking moron.

So when 20 Saudis crash planes into your buildings, you should attack Iraq?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:44 pm

mvscal wrote:So we're supposed to believe that Kerry was promising to spend an assload of cash just to get elected and then he would morph into a fiscal conservative once in office?!?

Your figures regarding Kerry's spending assumed a continuation in Iraq did they not?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:47 pm

BSmack wrote:
So when 20 Saudis crash planes into your buildings, you should attack Iraq?

Kind of like when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we immediately attacked Liechtenstein....

there is precedent......

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:53 pm

mvscal wrote:
Fixed it for ya, douchebag.

ftfy is always money........

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:07 pm

mvscal wrote:
Felix wrote:
BSmack wrote:
So when 20 Saudis crash planes into your buildings, you should attack Iraq?
Kind of like when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we immediately attacked Germany....

there is precedent......
Fixed it for ya, douchebag.

Apples and fucking bowling balls you twit.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:13 pm

mvscal wrote:AQ is far more closely linked with Saddam Hussein than Germany was with Japan.

link?????

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:20 pm

mvscal wrote:True. AQ is far more closely linked with Saddam Hussein than Germany was with Japan.

Yes, please do link me to the treaty Saddam signed with al Queda.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:37 pm

Iraqi intelligence

Imagine mvscal posting that phrase prior to the invasion of Iraq.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:39 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:True. AQ is far more closely linked with Saddam Hussein than Germany was with Japan.
Yes, please do link me to the treaty Saddam signed with al Queda.
Terrorist groups don't do treaties.

From the 1998 grand jury indictment of bin Laden:

4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in
the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist
group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their
perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.
In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of
Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al
Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html

The first attack on the WTC was also almost certainly a joint operation between Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda.

Maybe if Bush ever got around to capturing bin Laden, we might be able to put the truth of that document to the test in court.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:07 pm

Like I said before, that "morphing" stuff is indeed very strange:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- George W. Bush, 9/13/2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- George W. Bush, 3/13/2002

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Im a uniter, not a divider.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:32 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:True. AQ is far more closely linked with Saddam Hussein than Germany was with Japan.
Yes, please do link me to the treaty Saddam signed with al Queda.
Terrorist groups don't do treaties.

From the 1998 grand jury indictment of bin Laden:

4. Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in
the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist
group Hezballah for the purpose of working together against their
perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.
In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of
Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al
Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html

The first attack on the WTC was also almost certainly a joint operation between Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda.

Almost certainly? according to who? You? The experts can't find a link, but you can. riiight.

and an indictment is not proof of anything. I seem to remember that phrase uttered in here before.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:57 pm

mvscal wrote: You must work very hard to maintain such stubborn ignorance.

irony........and tears........

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:57 pm

9-11 comission said otherwise.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:00 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:9-11 comission said otherwise.

stop throwing facts into the mix........you're not helping.....

lets not forget that mvs was once in the middle east, therefore he knows everything that goes on.....

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:23 pm

Oh, but this thread was sure lookin' up for ol' mvscal. Can't stop now, I gotta step it up a notch and go to the "fucktard" card. Ol' mvscal doesn't want to go back to that Buy Here Pay Here lot, ooohhh no. They were always kicking and punching. Kept bringing ol' mvscal down.

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:27 pm

Gil wrote:He attacked Afghanistan first, dumbfuck.

Great fucking job he did. Osama must be shitting his pants.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:03 pm

Mission Accomplished !