Diego - Bike Question

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 am

I'm loving it. The only time when it's marginally enjoyable is when it's below 40° and I'm doing faster than 45 mph. I think if I pick up some leather pants & a scarf for the neck for those days I'll be a lot happier. Other than the weather the NW is a perfect place to ride, as there's plenty of smaller roads to ride. Not to mention that a hell of a lot cheaper on the ferrys (and 1st on - 1st off :twisted: ). I'm finding the handling to be a lot easier, especially at low speeds (although I doubt I could yet do the figure 8 box for the license test).

I'm hoping to do a group ride soon for the hell of it, but it's hard to plan for them with our weather until late spring or fall.

I'm starting to get the hang of having my g/f on the back. She has a habit of shifting around (I don't know if soft tails are harder to get comfy on or not), but she's getting better (she's mostly doing it now at lights, but needs to learn to warn me first

).

I was thinking of taking it to CA the next time I have enough time to go down there w/o flying, but I'm wondering how doable that is. I did a six hour ride on Sunday (minus 45 min for breakfast), and I was pretty tired. I don't know how much more time it would take on the bike rather than in my truck (22 hours straight driving to SD). Do you know how many miles in a day you're good for on a multi-day trip?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:20 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:I'm loving it. The only time when it's marginally enjoyable is when it's below 40° and I'm doing faster than 45 mph. I think if I pick up some leather pants & a scarf for the neck for those days I'll be a lot happier. Other than the weather the NW is a perfect place to ride, as there's plenty of smaller choads to ride. Not to mention that a hell of a lot cheaper on the fairys (and 1st on - 1st off :twisted: ). [/b]I'm finding the boy handling to be a lot easier[/b], especially at low speeds (although I doubt I could yet do the figure 4 box for the license test).

I'm hoping to do a group ride soon for the hell of it, but it's hard to plan for them with our weather until late spring or fall.

I'm starting to get the hang of having my guy/f on the back. He has a habit of sniffing around (I don't know if soft tails get harder to get comfy on or not), but he's getting harder (he's mostly doing it now at lights, but needs to learn to warn me first ).

You can't make this shit up Chappelle.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:27 am

Atomic Puke;
Either come out of the closet or get treatment for your obsession.

Gunslinger · Post by **Gunslinger** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:43 am

Atomic Punk wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:I'm loving it. The only time when it's marginally enjoyable is when it's below 40° and I'm doing faster than 45 mph. I think if I pick up some leather pants & a scarf for the neck for those days I'll be a lot happier. Other than the weather the NW is a perfect place to ride, as there's plenty of smaller choads to ride. Not to mention that a hell of a lot cheaper on the fairys (and 1st on - 1st off :twisted: ). [/b]I'm finding the boy handling to be a lot easier[/b], especially at low speeds (although I doubt I could yet do the figure 4 box for the license test).

I'm hoping to do a group ride soon for the hell of it, but it's hard to plan for them with our weather until late spring or fall.

I'm starting to get the hang of having my guy/f on the back. He has a habit of sniffing around (I don't know if soft tails get harder to get comfy on or not), but he's getting harder (he's mostly doing it now at lights, but needs to learn to warn me first ).
You can't make this shit up Chappelle.

Is Chappelle now the latest reference to comedy? And it's a weak effort on your part especially being the fact that you did make it up and not very well.

Just tell him how you know a guy at Huffy and get it over with.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:38 pm

If you want to be able to ride more than 300 miles in a day, you need to get away from the cruiser setup. You would think that a cruiser would be better for long periods in the saddle, but, after having ridden my buddy's FJ1100 for an entire day, I find that position, leaning forward slightly, very comfortable. It take the weight off your back and assuming you are moving at a reasonable clip, the wind lifts you enough to keep your arms from getting tired.

Glad to hear the ferries are cutting you a deal nowadays Diego. :)

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:40 pm

Oh, he'll post some pics alright. You'll see him geared up in leather chaps with the ass cut out for easy insertion.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:25 pm

Howz the Suicide Solution going tard? You DO realize YOU are a shit troll, right?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:58 pm

Toddowen wrote: And approaching 200mph could also cut down on driving time over the long cross country trek.

From the pic, that sure looks like a GS1100ED (1983...the "D" designated 83). If that's the case, it will do about 150 on a good day.

Matter of fact, I've topped out an 83 and an 84 1100ES...at about 150.

In its day, the 1100E/1100ES was pretty much the big dog, though.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:04 pm

And don't forget Tardblowin, Dins is also a test pilot/driver for every aircraft manufacturer and car maker.

So watch out, nizza!

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:28 am

Toddowen wrote: I swear by Gods holy son Christ that I will yet again do 135 MPH on a mid 1980's GS

Let's just hope your shit trolling, called out, bitched-slapped, punked ass goes Paul Dana on the track, so to speak. You've been outted.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:28 pm

Toddowen wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:
Toddowen wrote: I swear by Gods holy son Christ that I will yet again do 135 MPH on a mid 1980's GS
Let's just hope your shit trolling, called out, bitched-slapped, punked ass goes Paul Dana on the track, so to speak. You've been outted.
Outted? By an offroader?

You're calling me out on a thread about road bikes?

I can see by your responces that you have had your balls thrust into your mouth on a lot of whop-de-do's.

How many police departments have alerted on a single chase? Probably only one or two

You have no idea who is actually correct in referring to yorseff as a ignorant tard when it comes to road bikes.

You're almost as pathetic as Diego riding a Harley.

That would be Dins riding the Harley. I don't over-pay for the things I buy ('sup Zy & Silver Spoon).

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:16 pm

Ain't no way no how a stock 1983 GS1000E ever did 150 mph.

135 mph or thereabouts, tops. Nowhere near enough HP and far too much aerodymanic drag on a naked bike for those things to attain a true 150 mph. Now, their speedos might've indicated some such nonsense but a radar gun would say otherwise.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:42 pm

Van wrote:Ain't no way no how a stock 1983 GS1000E ever did 150 mph.

135 mph or thereabouts, tops. Nowhere near enough HP and far too much aerodymanic drag on a naked bike for those things to attain a true 150 mph. Now, their speedos might've indicated some such nonsense but a radar gun would say otherwise.

^^^Beat me to it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:15 pm

Van wrote:Ain't no way no how a stock 1983 GS1000E ever did 150 mph.

135 mph or thereabouts, tops. Nowhere near enough HP and far too much aerodymanic drag on a naked bike for those things to attain a true 150 mph. Now, their speedos might've indicated some such nonsense but a radar gun would say otherwise.

Bullshit.

Yes, on an 80's bike, once you crack triple digits, you must subtract at least 10MPH from the speedo, and with the Suzukis, 15MPH was probably a better correction factor. Even with said correction, those bikes were good for an easy 145-150.

Websearches (for what they're worth) place the advertised top speed anywhere from 141-145+.

In all fairness, neither of the bikes I rode (multiple times) had a stock pipe. One even had flat slide carbs, which rendered the performance nothing like a stock GS1100ES(sidebar -- that bike was a hand-me-down through our crew, and it was originally a friend's daily commuter...in Fairbanks, Alaska. Dins' peeps DO bikes). I never maxed that one out, either, but it was thought that it would do around 155, which I think was over-revving a hair. The other one, which I laid WFO a couple of times, would redline in 5th easily, and keep on going. I never spend too horribly much time looking at the speedo while travelinjg triple-digi's, but the tach extrapolation would lead one to believe it was approaching 150 or so.

Hell, the 83GPZ750 I used to thrash (not mine, but at the time, my buddy would beg me to let him ride my Hurricane, so I was stuck with the beater) would hit close to 135....if you had a few miles to get that last 5MPH increase(Hurricane would dust that thing, rockettted up to 130, crept up to somewhere in the 135-138 range (with speedometer correction, which was consistant with what the magazines claimed at the time). With any sort of tailwind or downhill, that top speed would go up dramatically).

Todd --try again. There's been two bikes made in history that broke the 200MPH barrier off the showroom floor, and neither one of them is an 80's model Suzuki. The one that is currently in production does in fact say Suzuki on it, and it is a GS model. Other than that, you're full of poo. It was almost 1990 before the 160 barrier was cracked, and many more years before 170 was broken.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:23 pm

Dins,
No way did you get that kind of performance from a "cordless" bike.

So what gauge extension cord did you use? Don't lie, I know all about this stuff.

Signed,

U Know Who

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:51 pm

And by about 1985, the Japs had figured out what a fucking joke phillips heads were when used to put a motorcycle together, and opted for allens instead.

My question for some of you -- how does it feel to be dumber than the Japs were 20 years ago?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:55 pm

And on a slightly related note -- I got on a dirt bike for the first time in many years this last weekend. My bud actually has a track on his property in Spokane.

When I sold mine many years ago, I swo5re I'd never ride another. See, The Dinsinator was born with only an on/off switch...there's no variable speed control on this old-school model. "Take it easy" isn't in my vocabulary.

And damn...dirt bikes have come a LONG way. Was riding a 250cc 4-stroke, and that thing pretty much got it on. 38 horsepower, I think it was. That's quite a bit for a "putt-putt" bike.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:22 pm

Please tell me you didn't purchase that boat anchor with wheels on it, Diego. Anybody who buys anything from H-D with the exception of the V-Rod is a victim of a savvy marketing ploy. Welcome to the world of PT Barnum, mister.

Rooster

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:51 pm

Dins, 140 mph....maybe.

150? Nope. 90-ish rwhp, 550 lbs and no fairing will never reach 150 mph, not unless it's while freefalling from an airplane.

The '83 GS1000 simply didn't make enough power to crack 150.

Oh, and for the record, there's only ever been one bone stock production bike to crack 200mph. The '99 and early production year '00 Suzuki Hayabusa did it, with a high of 204 mph at the Nardo Speed Bowl in Italy.

Most of the first two year models managed in the low 190s.

The Kawi ZX-12R never managed 200mph in stock production form and in late 2000 the Big Four motorcycle manufacturers got together and self imposed a 300kmph (186 mph) on all production vehicles. (This saved much face for Kawasaki, since they failed in their efforts to topple the 'Busa with a production bike that could safely and reliably do 200mph...They did manage to get it to do 200+ mph in testing but the bike was deemed too unstable in that form to put into production and the so the ZX-12R suffered numerous relase date delays. Finally, they were the key player in instigating the 300kmph ceiling in order to save face, and it worked.) This 186 mph ceiling has been in effect ever since late '00 and it's still in effect today so the 'Busa remains the lone stock production motorcycle to ever do a certified 200mph.

DMike316 · Post by **DMike316** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:55 pm

Dinsdale wrote:And damn...dirt bikes have come a LONG way. Was riding a 250cc 4-stroke, and that thing pretty much got it on. 38 horsepower, I think it was.

I do some dirt riding. Rode a friend's CRF-250R (their Motocross version) last summer and was impressed by what it had as far as power.

I currentley have an old KTM 300 MXC that I posted a pic of a while back. Since then I've picked up an RM-250 that's been hopped up a bit for track racing. Where I'm riding at depends on which bike I take. The old KTM is still a bulldozer and IMO is much easier on the tight/technical trails. If I'm riding some place more wide open or obviously some track riding then the RM is an absolute rocket.

If anybody can host a pic (Logan?, HH?, etc) let me know and I'll post the one clear pic I have of the RM.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:42 am

not a cruiser fan, but, damn, I wanna take a vtx for a ride. Instanf fukking torque and lots of it as soon as you even think of twisting the throttle.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:45 am

Sam, better make that greatest marketing department in the history of marketing departments. It's comparable to ford still cranking out mavericks for double the cost of an Acura and selling every one they can make at full retail +.

Rack them, I 'spose.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:09 am

Atomic Punk wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:I'm loving it. The only time when it's marginally enjoyable is when it's below 40° and I'm doing faster than 45 mph. I think if I pick up some leather pants & a scarf for the neck for those days I'll be a lot happier. Other than the weather the NW is a perfect place to ride, as there's plenty of smaller choads to ride. Not to mention that a hell of a lot cheaper on the fairys (and 1st on - 1st off :twisted: ). [/b]I'm finding the boy handling to be a lot easier[/b], especially at low speeds (although I doubt I could yet do the figure 4 box for the license test).

I'm hoping to do a group ride soon for the hell of it, but it's hard to plan for them with our weather until late spring or fall.

I'm starting to get the hang of having my guy/f on the back. He has a habit of sniffing around (I don't know if soft tails get harder to get comfy on or not), but he's getting harder (he's mostly doing it now at lights, but needs to learn to warn me first ).
You can't make this shit up Chappelle.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:15 am

DMike316 wrote:
I do some dirt riding. Rode a friend's CRF-250R (their Motocross version) last summer and was impressed by what it had as far as power.

I currentley have an old KTM 300 MXC that I posted a pic of a while back. Since then I've picked up an RM-250 that's been hopped up a bit for track racing. Where I'm riding at depends on which bike I take. The old KTM is still a bulldozer and IMO is much easier on the tight/technical trails. If I'm riding some place more wide open or obviously some track riding then the RM is an absolute rocket.

If anybody can host a pic (Logan?, HH?, etc) let me know and I'll post the one clear pic I have of the RM.

Mike I can do that for you. If you can get it to me early tomorrow morning I can host it quickly or it will have to wait until later tomorrow night. I'll PM you my e-mail addy so you can send it.

Here's a pic of my Honda CRF-450R. I had to sell it when I moved but want to get a CRF-250R down the road. I didn't need the power. You hit the throttle and your vision blurs on the 450.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:21 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Honda CRF-450R

I'll tell you what -- I have an old friend who is hardcore. Dude rode his last semi-pro Arenacross event, with the bigboys when he was in his 40's. He's pretty much the man, and a god of two-stroke mechanics(he used to build bikes for big-name racing teams in his day, and has generally always had a minor sponsorship from Honda et. al.). Anyhoo, dude is the real deal. And because of who he was, he never went more than two years without a brand new CR500, that would then get built bballs-to-the-freaking wall, for track use.

I say this not to be a Zyclone, but to establish that dude knows bikes as well as anyone on the planet. And the day they came out with the four stroke CRs, he deemed the top-of-the-line two strokes in his garage to be "junk." Haven't seen him in a while, but I believe his inventory is now devoid of any two-strokers.

Another friend is a hardcore enduro and desert racer, and spent years working at the huge local dealership as a mechanic. Also has a garage full of bikes (and the lucky bastard lives next-door to one of the largest OHV areas in the country, pulls out of his garage, straight into the woods...sweet locale for a rider). He's a little different, though -- claims the KTM kills the Honda, but he's been a KTM fan for a long time (used to race Yammerhammers for years).

And I've yet to ride a big-bore new-style thumper. I'm told it's much like being invited to your own personal shuttle launch, though.

Either way, the two-stroke era is over. Outdated technology.

Cool bike, AP -- sounds like you need to buy another.

DMike316 · Post by **DMike316** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:40 pm

Dinsdale wrote:enduro racer...

claims the KTM kills the Honda

From an enduro viewpoint, I could absolutley see this. From what I've seen though, no KTM's on the big Moto/Arenacross circuits.
Watch any Motard race though (half dirt/ half pavement) and you'll typically see a KTM at or near the front.

Dinsdale wrote:Either way, the two-stroke era is over. Outdated technology.

For the big time competitions, yeah, but as a recreational rider who already happens to have a few two-strokes sitting in the geerage they do just fine. Easier to work on plus cheaper to buy for an every other weekend rider like myself. I got my 2000 RM, very good shape and well maintained, for $1,300. Not tood bad I thought.

The nice thing about riding the four-strokes is the absence of the two-stroke "be careful or it'll flip you on your ass" power band. While they're strong, the fours have a more even distribution of power that you don't have to wind it out to use.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:59 pm

DMike316 wrote: From an enduro viewpoint, I could absolutley see this. From what I've seen though, no KTM's on the big Moto/Arenacross circuits.
Watch any Motard race though (half dirt/ half pavement) and you'll typically see a KTM at or near the front.

Haven't watched any dirt racing in years. My old, old buddy (who retired after 20 years in the USAF just this last weekend, after coming home from Iraq as a disabled vet, RACK the living fuck out of him....sorry, had to slip that in there, since I drove 350 miles to attend the retirement ceremony last weekend, and hence my sig)...anyhoo, before he became a gimp in Iraq, he bought a KTM525 from some racing team. I never made it up to Spokane while he had it(dude built a dirt track on his property...RACK him again), but he had the track model, which my other riding-friends said kinda sucked, due to 1st gear being way too high(4 speed). My enduro-racing friend has the enduro, which has a 6 spped, and doesn't have the same complaint.

But yeah, my bud paid about $5K for a one year old KTM (which he thought was a smoking deal, and I think he sold it for about the same amount after he got back).

Just can't see myself paying $5K for a dirt bike that I'm going to THRASH.

Hell, one of my other old high school buds bought an 84XR250R (AWESOME trail bike, but kinda slow) new, back in high school. Figures he can probably get close to the $1400 he paid for it...22 years ago. Go figure...

Van · Post by **Van** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:27 pm

DMike316 wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:enduro racer...

claims the KTM kills the Honda
From an enduro viewpoint, I could absolutley see this. From what I've seen though, no KTM's on the big Moto/Arenacross circuits.
Watch any Motard race though (half dirt/ half pavement) and you'll typically see a KTM at or near the front.

I guess Jeff Ward and Doug Henry must've missed that memo.

True though, KTMs are the dominant force in Motard, espeically in Europe. Just messing with ya'...

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:50 pm

Van wrote:The '83 GS1000 simply didn't make enough power to crack 150.

Vannar -- should you really be commenting when you've just made it clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?

If you remember back to those days of old...you know, like yesterday...the posts you were quoting and all...remember that?

Anyhoo, you seem to have forgotten that we were discussing the GS1100ED and the GS1100ESD. I don't think Suzuki even made a 100cc bike in 83, like you claim.

And a GS1100ESD and ESE had quarter-fairings...dumbass.

Stick to shit you know about, dude -- like getting 18 year old idiots to agree to 22%APR financing for 7 years.

But what the hell do volumes and volumes of magazine and industry test know about the measured top speed of a GS1100ESD, when compared to Vannar, even though he seems quite unfamiliar with things like the displacement of the motorcyle he's trying to display expertise on, or what kind of accoutre they may or may not have come equipped with?

Sorry, Vannar -- you're flailing, dude.

Van · Post by **Van** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:12 pm

Dins just quit.

The bike in the picture has no quarter fairing, does it?

90-100 rwhp----->550 lbs--------->Upright seating position, without a full fairing....

140 mph, tops. 135 mph, on average.

Show me one magazine test of that bike where it achieved a true 150 mph, stock.

Basically, you're in over your head so STFU.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:21 pm

Ohhhhkay there, MR. "83GS1000."

Did I also not mention exactly how I came up with those stats?

And for the record, since your brain not worky so good -- I also mentioned that neither of the GS1100s I hit 150 on were stock. I seem to even recall mentioning that one of them even had flat-slides...you DO know what sort of performance gains that would result in...right, Mr I-Know-Everything-Because-I-Sell-Used-Bikes-To-Acne-Suffering-Teens?

Spout off all you want, Used Bike Saleman -- a factory GS1100ESD was good for about 145 or so, on the radar/rear wheel speedo-thingy.

Van · Post by **Van** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:34 pm

Dins, we were talking stock, not modified. Once modified, sure, the sky's the limit.

Btw, "rear wheel speedo thingys" are also useless for measuring true top speed.

Christ...

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:03 am

DMike316 wrote:
If anybody can host a pic let me know and I'll post the one clear pic I have of the RM.

Here you go Mike.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:40 am

Dinsdale wrote: And I've yet to ride a big-bore new-style thumper. I'm told it's much like being invited to your own personal shuttle launch, though.

Either way, the two-stroke era is over. Outdated technology.

Cool bike, AP -- sounds like you need to buy another.

Yeah, the acceleration on that 2004 thumper was more than I needed, especially for the local race tracks around the Valley. There are so many riders and I used to love my 1997 CR-125 because it was like riding a bicycle. I had a desert type 1986 Honda XR-600R where it was one of the two years they had dual carbs. It was perfectly jetted and also made it street legal with a bush kit. I hated selling those two bikes but whatever.

On the local tracks you need a lighter weighter bike to maneuver with weekend hacks like myself (to get out of the way of the pro's) and have more fun. I loved that CR-125 but the 2004 CRF-450R had too much power and was too heavy to enjoy being a weekend hack.

One thing I fucked up on the CRF was I accidently put red loctite on the screw threads for the skid plate. Sucks to be that current owner.

Also, talk about having to really be diligent on tuning the spokes on that thing... Honda wanted Ricky Carmicheal to race the 450R and he was more comfortable with the 2 stroke, so he went to Suzuki if I remember correctly.

One thing that 2004 CRF needed was a better pipe. It was over $300 and I'm not good enough to really need the extra expense. I hear the 2006 CRF-250R's are a lot lighter and I'm really trying to justify buying one right now with school and work. There is nothing like riding tracks or just fucking around. I'll get one soon.

BTW Dins, I don't know shit about street bikes okay? Don't pile on about that issue. Like talking about home improvement tools versus the big boys doing construction. I have no argument in the professional field with you.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:47 am

Sudden Sam wrote:A real bike:

You did mean scooter, right?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:23 am

It would be archive material only if a nazi m0d deleted your contributions to it.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:07 pm

There is nothing "muscle" about riding a street bike compared to riding a dirt bike you "shit troll."

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:54 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:DMike,

Sorry, buddy. I was out o' town and not near a computer since Tuesday afternoon. I had your pic ready to post just now. Glad AP took care of it for you.

I used to ride one of these...belonged to a friend:

I know...I'm old as hell!

ftfy

Van · Post by **Van** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:05 pm

Toddowen, I'm not "dissing" the '80s muscle bikes. I'm just stating the facts about physics. No stock naked bike from 1983 (such as the bike in the picture) made enough hp to ever do a real 150 mph, is all.

Myself, I no longer have any need for 150+ mph. My GSX-R1000 would do a real 180 mph but it never did it with me on it. The only place I'd ever care to top out a bike would be at the track and ever since my neck surgery I don't do track days anymore. There's no roadrace tracks in California with enough room to allow a stock GSX-R1000 to top out and the fastest I've ever gone at the track was 163 mph (on a GSX-R750), heading into Turn 1 at Thunderhill.

These days, my current bike (VFR800) only makes about 100 rwhp and its real top speed is only 145-ish and that's more than enough on the street for me...

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:46 pm

Van wrote:Turn 1 at Thunderhill.

[Zysdale]Did I mention that my buddy ran in the inagural race there?[/Zysdale]

Got a couple of friends here that make the trek to join him at track days there. They say it's a great track for bikes. I'll take their word for it.

Actually, them and my racing-instructor friend both say it would be awesome if for no other reason than...it's not in SoCal. Something about "SoCals are the biggest bunch of fucking idiots to ever mount a motorcycle. Must be something in the water that makes over 50% of every group wreck on lap 1. Not like that in NoCal or Portland." Once again, I'll take their word for it.