Tom DeLay, evangelical war freak--resigns in disgrace

[LTS TRN 2]

Are you really surprised? That the whole malignant neocon design is convulsing and retching in disaster and disgrace? And Delay is still going to jail.

[Diego in Seattle]

He was forced or bought off by the GOP. There was no way they wanted that dead weight weighing down candidates in other midterm elections (& possibly the race for the White House). Why else would he quit after winning his primary so handily?

[BSmack]

Just a flesh wound!

sin

The Black mvscal

[Risa]

He was forced or bought off by the GOP. There was no way they wanted that dead weight weighing down candidates in other midterm elections (& possibly the race for the White House). Why else would he quit after winning his primary so handily?

interesting. :? very interesting.


what a joke the US is. what does Delay get out of this?
what happens in the future?

[Goober McTuber]

In interviews Monday with The Galveston County Daily News and Time magazine, DeLay said his decision was best for the district.

DeLay said the decision was based on troubling internal polling numbers.

[Risa]

In interviews Monday with The Galveston County Daily News and Time magazine, DeLay said his decision was best for the district.

DeLay said the decision was based on troubling internal polling numbers.

how does that gib with what diego says?

[PSUFAN]

Whatever Diego said, DeLay was probably not going to get reelected. He didn't face much opposition in his primary, but he was to face a lot more in the general election.

[Risa]

Whatever Diego said, DeLay was probably not going to get reelected. He didn't face much opposition in his primary, but he was to face a lot more in the general election.

by whom?


how many texans really cared about his recent legal troubles? or thought that his use of loopholes was unethical, since it wasn't technically illegal?

[Bizzarofelice]

DeLay won the most votes in a four way race. When it is him vs. another person, he'd get creamed.

Sadly the exterminator/hammer/gerrymander is no more.

[Goober McTuber]

In interviews Monday with The Galveston County Daily News and Time magazine, DeLay said his decision was best for the district.

DeLay said the decision was based on troubling internal polling numbers.

how does that gib with what diego says?

I don’t know. Maybe you could set up a conference call with the two of them and sort it out.

[PSUFAN]

Whatever Diego said, DeLay was probably not going to get reelected. He didn't face much opposition in his primary, but he was to face a lot more in the general election.

by whom?


how many texans really cared about his recent legal troubles? or thought that his use of loopholes was unethical, since it wasn't technically illegal?

Our contract only allows for one (1) common-sense answer per hour, risa. Go to google for pete's sake, and stop waylaying our good folk with questions you can easily answer on your own.

[Bizzarofelice]

Can't we just let Texas leave the United States to form their own self-obsessed country. They can convert each other to Evangelical Chritianity for fun and all hang out in massive churches. Close the border. Let the Mexicans come to Texas and mow the pristine lawns of megachurches. Close the border now.

Please do this while m2 is in Texas.

[PSUFAN]

Can't we just let Texas leave the United States to form their own self-obsessed country.

7 Flags?

[Terry in Crapchester]

Can't we just let Texas leave the United States to form their own self-obsessed country. They can convert each other to Evangelical Chritianity for fun and all hang out in massive churches.

Rack. Not to mention that they could then get rid of the Bill of Rights, which they want to do anyway.

And they already speak their own language. Don't know what it is, but it sure doesn't sound like any English I've ever heard.

I wish DeLie were running, though, as it would certainly help the Democrats, if not in his district then elsewhere.

[BSmack]

He was forced or bought off by the GOP. There was no way they wanted that dead weight weighing down candidates in other midterm elections (& possibly the race for the White House). Why else would he quit after winning his primary so handily?

Yep.

Dubya called him last night and invited him to commit seppuku. It's a safe seat and takes the issue off the table.

Aren't you the same one who said that the prosecution of Delay was going nowhere?

[The Whistle Is Screaming]

commit seppuku.

Will that invalidate his whudo?

[BSmack]

Aren't you the same one who said that the prosecution of Delay was going nowhere?

And it isn't.

Yea, like Delay would have resigned if he thought he could beat the rap. Do you ever tire of deluding yourself?

[Dinsdale]

He was forced or bought off by the GOP.

If that were the cae, the GOP would have paid Bush and Co. to leave the White House early. The neocons have essentially divided the party over their flagrant pandering to the chamber-of-commerce/corporate folks who are among the very few who benefit from the lack of border enforcement.

Conservatives believe in conservative values and policies. Neocons believe in worshipping the short-term kickback.

A house divided cannot stand. Bad times ahead for the GOP. And when that day comes, it will be refreshing -- I can get back to the Good Old Days of bitching about the Democrats trashing the country. This bitching about the GOP all of the time is exhausting. When it comes to choosing the lesser of evils, the Dems move at a much slower pace, thereby making it easy to follow what they're up to...to bitch about it.

[Risa]

A house divided cannot stand.

where does that leave the Democrats, who don't even have a cardboard box? all this does is make it look like housecleaning... housecleaning initiated by the INSIDE not by the outside (Democrats).

[Degenerate]

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory. ... on/3755295

DeLay says he sees war on Christianity in U.S.
Sugar Land Republican speaks at conference of religious leaders
By SAMANTHA LEVINE
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON - American society looks down on Christianity, U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay asserted Tuesday at a conference of religious conservatives, but God and Jesus Christ have chosen Christians to stand up for faith.

DeLay, who is facing tough times of his own, offered a half-hour speech that was part history lesson and part sermon to a crowd of about 300 gathered at a Washington hotel for a two-day conference titled "The War on Christians and the Values Voter in 2006."

The Sugar Land Republican said some commentators — the "chattering classes" — will argue that there is no war on Christianity in this country.

...

The conference was convened by Vision America, a group founded by the Rev. Rick Scarborough to mobilize "patriot pastors" of all denominations to promote Christian involvement in government.

Scarborough, the former pastor of the First Baptist Church in Pearland, is a long-time DeLay ally.

"This is a man, I believe, God has appointed ... to represent righteousness in government," Scarborough told the audience, which included Eagle Forum Founder Phyllis Schlafly, former ambassador Alan Keyes, and Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.

Damn, I guess God appointed a quitter.

[Bizzarofelice]

A house divided cannot stand.

where does that leave the Democrats, who don't even have a cardboard box?

Same crap place they were before. Internal squabble wouldn't be much of a problem for the Dems. They've been separate for some time.

The united front of the GOP was a major strength of theirs. They had a mass identity as opposed to individual party members. With the figurehead and major players within the party taking shots, this party unity thing is crumbling.

[Goober McTuber]

He was forced or bought off by the GOP.

If that were the cae, the GOP would have paid Bush and Co. to leave the White House early.

I don’t know about that. Bush is the lamest of ducks, Cheyney is obviously not a viable candidate. I’m thinking the GOP in 2008 will run against the Bush administration as much as against the Dems.

[PSUFAN]

BTW - DeLay is a huge CUNT. He's blaming all of this on Leftists, Liberals, and the media. He totally BLAMELESS - at least according to two people in this country...himself and mvsPretzel.

[Risa]

A house divided cannot stand.

where does that leave the Democrats, who don't even have a cardboard box?

Same crap place they were before. Internal squabble wouldn't be much of a problem for the Dems. They've been separate for some time.

The united front of the GOP was a major strength of theirs. They had a mass identity as opposed to individual party members. With the figurehead and major players within the party taking shots, this party unity thing is crumbling.

well, good for them.

the people don't want internal squabbling. the people want strength. the people want a show of solidarity. the people want a party who stands for something.

democrats don't stand for anything except getting the most amount of votes possible. they may 'look' like america, but they don't work for america.


again, i don't know what to do. do you see a bounce back with the the cutting of losses on the GOP side? does it really add up to Democrat gains?

and where does this leave turncoat Lieberman?

[Dinsdale]

The united front of the GOP was a major strength of theirs. They had a mass identity as opposed to individual party members. With the figurehead and major players within the party taking shots, this party unity thing is crumbling.

Very well said.

And if you need any more evidence that the two=party system has failed us and become very evil, look no further than here in Oregon -- they recently snuck an issue through the legislature that was shockingly almost unanimously supported by both parties. Absolutely no debate between the two, truly a universal, bipartisan issue.

You may be asking yourself "what issue could be so dire that both the dems and pubs thought the issue was so grave that they passed it right through with little-to-no debate?"

This hotbed issue that both parties agreed to so readily? They passed a law that made it damn-near impossible to run in Oregon as an independent candidate.

Democracy at its finest.

Executions are in order-imo.

[Risa]

This hotbed issue that both parties agreed to so readily? They passed a law that made it damn-near impossible to run in Oregon as an independent candidate.

that's impossible, because something like that is blatantly unconstitutional.

isn't it?

you got a news link for that?

[Y2K]

Without a doubt "party unity" is crumbling, why else would Delay resign after being told to get out of the way......

[Dinsdale]

[do you see a bounce back with the the cutting of losses on the GOP side? does it really add up to Democrat gains?

What's ultimately going to be at issue, is that somewhere around 95%+ of the American People want to see better border enforcement and immigration reform....kind of like Liar Bush promised when he campaigned.

But, the neocon movement is and has been for sale to the highest bidder. And the people able to place the largest bid benefit from the illegal immigrants, even though it's detrimental to 99% of the American public. But, the neocons are the public face of the GOP right now. But the true conservatives and GOPers have constituents to worry about, and those constituents are part of that 95%+ who hate what Bush/Rove/Cheney are doing to this country.


If the GOP can't get this division under control with a quickness, The People are going to turn anywhere except to those who stabbed them in the back with their lies (Gee Bush...when you said "immigration reform," we were kinda thinking something a little different...like maybe moving the opposite direction from your vision). People are going to vote for disease, famine, and public execution of cute puppies before they jump in bed with a bunch of PROVEN LIARS again...if they're smart, anyway (not that the American voter has proven himself to be any too smart lately).

Should be an interesting few months in the political arena, at any rate. When the November midterms are said and done, only one thing is for certain -- mvscal is going to be calling people "dumbfucks." And at the end of the day, isn't that what's really important?

[Bizzarofelice]

the people don't want internal squabbling.

Wouldn't bother me. I want my representatives representing the 314 nationally, and not their party. If doing so goes against what the party thinks is good for the country, so what. This person was elected by the 314 to represent the 314 and promote the 314's interests.

the people want a show of solidarity.

viva generalissimo

democrats don't stand for anything except getting the most amount of votes possible.

Looks like the spinmasters have been able to get to you, too.

again, i don't know what to do.

Don't pay attention to the games the parties play. Pay attention to who will bring results on issues you care most about.

and where does this leave turncoat Lieberman?

Lieberman isn't a turncoat. He's been like this since he's been elected. He's a great example of my first point. I have respect for the guy even if I don't agree with him.

[BSmack]

This hotbed issue that both parties agreed to so readily? They passed a law that made it damn-near impossible to run in Oregon as an independent candidate.

that's impossible, because something like that is blatantly unconstitutional.

isn't it?

you got a news link for that?

Dins is engaging in a little hyperbole. What the law did was make it impossible for established parties to use their supporters as stalking horses in phony 3rd party campaigns a la the Ralph Nader sham of 2004.

Prior to the law, any registered Oregon voter could sign a nominating petition for an independent candidate, or attend a nominating convention. The law changes that. Now, any voter who casts a ballot in a primary election cannot help nominate an independent candidate to the ballot. Typically, this is done by the candidate and his or her supporters collecting a requisite number of signatures on petitions. Also, the law prohibits voters from signing a petition for more than one candidate.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/feb20 ... -f01.shtml

In other words, if you want to be a 3rd party, BE a 3rd party. Don't use a 3rd party just to take down one of the 2 party candidates just so the other two party candidate can get in.

If you want real reform, seats should not be winner take all, they should be apportioned. But that's just crazy Eurotalk in the US.

[PSUFAN]

Conservatives believe in conservative values and policies. Neocons believe in worshipping the short-term kickback.

concise and rackable.

[Dinsdale]

you got a news link for that?

It's been a couple of months. Frankly, I haven't even started getting angry about it. I'm still in shock that it was done, and I threw my hands up in disgust before I even had the full details. I'm going to need a "cool-down" period before I can even adress it.

But, I have faith in my fellow Oregonians. Usually (and I'll look into helping out when it comes up) when the Legislature does something that unbelievably stupid and subversive, it gets slapped with a referendum so fast, it leaves the criminals/lawmakers heads spinning. Like when they and the governor tried to recriminalize marijuana after 30 years...because they wanted the cops to be able to search your car if they thought they smelled marijuana. I think it was the biggest blowout in the history of Oregon elections. Subject hasn't come up again since. BTW- that governor in question is John Kitzhaber. Normally, you shouldn't care, and I'd be doing what I could to forget that lawbreaking nazi (an elected official that doesn't believe in the state Constitution...neat), but he will most likely be coming to a town near you to bitch about national healthcare. He was a doctor before he showed up at the Governor's Mansion/Office...wearing jeans and cowboy boots...fucking tool.

[PSUFAN]

Also: neocons trumpet "personal responsibility", but they definitely don't want any part of it for themselves.

[M2]

Also: neocons trumpet "personal responsibility", but they definitely don't want any part of it for themselves.

Sure they do... it just means something different to them than you or me.

If you're not ripping someone off, then you're not taking "personal responsibility".



m2

[Risa]

democrats don't stand for anything except getting the most amount of votes possible.

Looks like the spinmasters have been able to get to you, too.

no, this got to me:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-new ... omment?q=1

Liberals Selling Out Constituents
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 4, 2006 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 04/04/2006 9:52:43 AM PDT by Baconian

Liberals Selling Out Constituents
By Mychal Massie
A fundamental, primal screed of race-mongers, especially those in the Congressional Black Caucus, NAACP and the National Urban League, is that blacks are disproportionately incarcerated – the fact that many of same are disproportionately guilty of criminal acts that carry mandatory sentences notwithstanding.

We have heard time and again how unfair the judicial system is to blacks. But now, in the face of incontrovertible disregard for rule of law – a disregard that will adversely affect blacks – those who would be leaders are silent.

Who are these villains receiving a free pass for boldly breaking the law? They are illegal aliens. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates there are between 11.5 million and 12 million illegal aliens in our country, with an estimated 78 percent of them being from Mexico and Latin America. These illegals are not only receiving a free pass for breaking the law, they are being rewarded for same.

This is another nail in the coffin of the underclass – and the black underclass specifically – because when these illegal aliens receive their reward for willfully breaking the law, they will be qualified, at best, for low-paying, menial jobs. This means their contribution to the tax base will be negligible, yet they will demand the greatest amount of entitlement resources. That alone should have the black illuminati outraged.

Other questions worth noting are: What about registration for Selective Service? What about competition for affirmative-action dollars? Will the black underclass be expected to learn Spanish in order to wash cars or bus tables? Will they finally have proof that most companies will gladly hire Hispanics so as not to have to hire blacks?

The recently released "State of Black America" report by the liberal National Urban League included everything but directions to the "Wailing Wall" as its authors lamented the sorrowful conditions of blacks. With 78 percent of 12 million-plus illegal Hispanic lawbreakers being rewarded with amnesty for same, the alleged woeful plight of blacks just went to Hades in a hand basket. Still, the question persists: Why aren't we hearing from Mark Morial, president of the National Urban League, or Julian Bond, or Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., or the co-co-nut Louis Farrakhan now?

Hispanics, thanks in large part to their aversion to using abortion as a means of birth control – coupled with their government-sanctioned right to break the law – are the largest-growing population group. At the time of the 1990 U.S. Census, there were 6 million fewer Hispanics than blacks – in 2000, they outnumbered blacks by nearly 1 million. By the end of this century, they will outnumber blacks by 116 million and trail whites by less than 40 million – with these numbers not being factored for illegals. A valid question is: At what point does our country become Mexi-merica? I do not ask same glibly or to be insensitive, as such.

Illegals – especially those with no marketable skills apart from a willingness to work for low wages – are a threat to our economic stability. Their willingness to work for low wages further exacerbates an already volatile problem. The minimum-wage problem will not be solved by a glut of cheap labor. Cheap labor will provide employers with an incentive to not make the investments necessary that would lead to higher wages.

On the one hand, the blanket amnesty these illegal aliens are being rewarded with is not a color-sensitive problem – it is an American problem. On the other hand, it is a black problem if we are to accept the screeds of disenfranchisement and inequality from the race-mongers.

The fact that the liberal black elite are willing to once again sit quietly by – while "their" people are sold down the drain – is further evidence of what they value as important. They value anything that puts money in their pockets, while allowing them to portray themselves as worthwhile and necessary, in accordance with marching orders from their liberal handlers.

Consider that Mark Morial praised Planned Parenthood saying: "[It] is a good organization that seeks to empower women to make decisions about their own bodies" (C-SPAN, "Washington Journal," March 29, 2006).

The problem with that mentality is that 26 percent of the childbearing population, which happens to be black, is having 36 percent of the abortions. A triumph for Margaret Sanger (and you thought she was dancing because the ground where she now resides is red hot). But I digress. Yet the vaunted black leadership doesn't decry this outrage. The moral outrage comes from black conservatives and people of conscience.

So it appears that once again it will fall upon black conservatives and people of conscience to do what the brackish black leadership won't – that being to protect and defend blacks from those who sell out the people they claim to represent for less than Judas received in today's dollars.

Mychal Massie is a nationally recognized political activist, pundit and columnist. He is host of the widely popular talk show "Straight Talk." He has appeared on the Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Comcast Cable and talk radio programming nationwide. He is a former self-employed business owner of over 30 years and a member of the conservative public policy institute National Center for Public Policy Research-Project 21.

Yes, it's worldnet.

Yes, everything in it is true.

Yes, it's what several blacks have been saying but were drowned out in the 'we must be compassionate, i won't be made a felon for helping pepe sneak across the border while ji-jong and boris wait like good little law-abiding suckers.'

It's fucked up to go to daily kos and see those who are legal immigrants wanting to know what the fuck? get drowned out by the 'wow, why can't we draw crowd$ like that' so-called progressives.

It's fucked up to go to daily kos and see a Georgia10 repeat the racist meme/refusal to call an illegal an illegal nonsense.

Fuck the Democrats.

There is an option beyond the umbrella. It's to walk out in the rain and get hit with lightning anyway.

[Risa]

again, i don't know what to do.

Don't pay attention to the games the parties play. Pay attention to who will bring results on issues you care most about.

oh, thanks a fucking lot. that leaves NO ONE.

poor Greens ain't got the numbers, and were sold out by Nader, anyway.

I don't know about the rest.

and where does this leave turncoat Lieberman?

Lieberman isn't a turncoat. He's been like this since he's been elected. He's a great example of my first point. I have respect for the guy even if I don't agree with him.

Lieberman is a republican (i won't even call him a conservative) lapdog. he's no more a democrat than pat buchanon is.. but at least pat is more on the real than Lieberfreak. Lieberfreak takes the title of democrat, but tongues Bush/Cheney ass. Fuck him.

[Risa]

Conservatives believe in conservative values and policies. Neocons believe in worshipping the short-term kickback.

concise and rackable.

he forgot the part about 'Israel First' regarding Neocons.....
or is that non-kosher to discuss around here?

[Risa]

This hotbed issue that both parties agreed to so readily? They passed a law that made it damn-near impossible to run in Oregon as an independent candidate.

that's impossible, because something like that is blatantly unconstitutional.

isn't it?

you got a news link for that?

Dins is engaging in a little hyperbole. What the law did was make it impossible for established parties to use their supporters as stalking horses in phony 3rd party campaigns a la the Ralph Nader sham of 2004.

good god, that was horrible. and people fell for it. and Nader actually agreed to it.



Does the law fuck over existing, legitimate 3rd parties? how does one legally tell the difference?

how exactly would it prevent the Naderization of a 3rd party?

[Y2K]

The especially enjoy neocons like the Rockerfellers and Kennedys who use family members as lackeys to promote such compassion for the common man all the while using family funds to butt fuck them.
Classy stuff.

[Terry in Crapchester]

The prosecution was a success in that it forced his resignation which was the sole intent behind it in the first place,

That's where you're definitely wrong. DeLay resigning now actually hurts the Democratic Party. Better for the Democrats if he had stayed in the race with criminal and ethical charges hanging over his head, that way every Democratic candidate across the country could have run against him.

but you are quite delusional if you think it will result in criminal liability.

I wish I knew everything in advance, like you. Or at least, what you think you know.

We'll see where the criminal charges go.