Dear creationists:

[Diogenes]

You don't remember what happened in 1968? 1972?

Do the words "Nixon's Southern Strategy" mean anything to you?

They pretty much mean that you're an idiot.

[Uncle Fester]

poptart wrote:
1. Move this to the political forum

2. The move it to the Theology forum

3. Then bring it back here so it can be laughed at

Diogenes wrote:
1 Yes.
2 Only if you're actually discussing Creationism, ID has nothing to do with religion.
3 Move it back to 2, nobody goes there anyway.

1. I hate it when anal-retentive idiots whine about moving posts to the "correct" forum.

2. Move it to the Diogenes Forum if you want him to physically edit your posts into things you would never write yourself.

3. This nugget from Dio: "Only if you're actually discussing Creationism, ID has nothing to do with religion" has rocketed into FIRST PLACE in the "Dumbest Shit Ever Posted on These Boards" contest. (<--- Note the bold letters)

[Felix]

3. This nugget from Dio: "Only if you're actually discussing Creationism, ID has nothing to do with religion" has rocketed into FIRST PLACE in the "Dumbest Shit Ever Posted on These Boards" contest. (<--- Note the bold letters)

close.....

but the nugget from mvs that I sport in my sig is still numero uno.....

[Y2K]

Sorry felix....
Fester wins this round.

[Diogenes]

You don't get it, do you, Jimmy? I'll dumb it down for you, then.

What some yayhoo in Montana believes about the origins of the world affects my life not a bit. However, what a local school board chooses to have the school district teach my children about the origins of the universe affects me greatly, as they will need to be at least functionally literate in science in order to succeed in the world. Replacing standard biology textbooks with the Book of Genesis will not accomplish that.

Now, unfortunately, there is an assault on evolution from some in the political spectrum. Those leading this assault are all Republicans (although not all Republicans are behind this assault).

Name one prominent republican who has proposed "Replacing standard biology textbooks with the Book of Genesis".

[Diogenes]

poptart wrote:
1. Move this to the political forum

2. The move it to the Theology forum

3. Then bring it back here so it can be laughed at

Diogenes wrote:
1 Yes.
2 Only if you're actually discussing Creationism, ID has nothing to do with religion.
3 Move it back to 2, nobody goes there anyway.

1. I hate it when anal-retentive idiots whine about moving posts to the "correct" forum.

2. Move it to the Diogenes Forum if you want him to physically edit your posts into things you would never write yourself.

3. This nugget from Dio: "Only if you're actually discussing Creationism, ID has nothing to do with religion" has rocketed into FIRST PLACE in the "Dumbest Shit Ever Posted on These Boards" contest. (<--- Note the bold letters)

1) I doubt Poptart gives a fuck.
2) Have a kleenex.
3) You're an idiot.

[Diogenes]

Nice links, BTW, Terry...

Vice President Al Gore, the Democratic front-runner who has been a strong
advocate of scientific education, favors teaching evolution but believes
local authorities have the right to teach creationism as well, said
spokesman Alejandro Cabrera.

"The vice president favors the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Obviously, that decision should and will be made at the local level and
localities should be free to decide to teach creationism as well," Cabrera
said.

When told of Gore's statement, Eugenie Scott, executive director of the
National Center for Science Education, responded: "My God, that's
appalling!"

http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1999/1999AOB.html

[Diogenes]

I don't give a fuck what McCain says about anything, Chris Monney is a moron who belongs in Mother Jones, and the rest were crap.


Thanks for playing.

[Nishlord]

If there is a God, he must have been thinking about sex or what he was gonna have for his tea when he made most of the mongs on this board.

[Diogenes]

Obviously you're wrong about ID, but aside from that....

I think involuntary military service should be required of all 18-20 year olds.

Fuck that. The reason our military is as superb as it is is the fact that is all-volunteer. Now if you wish to make veteran status mandatory for holding elective office (or voting for that matter) you might have an argument...

[BSmack]

You don't remember what happened in 1968? 1972?

Do the words "Nixon's Southern Strategy" mean anything to you?

Pat Buchanan??????

I see Pat conveniently overlooks the many conservative Democrats who defected to the GOP during the 70's and 80's. Not that I expected him to be honest about that period in history.

[War Wagon]

Creationists crack me up.

You are aware that they reside exclusively within your party?

Yeah. Looked up exclusively and all I found was the following:

ex·clu·sive; adj.

1. Excluding or tending to exclude: exclusive barriers.
2. A word which is sometimes foolishly used in poorly-thought out takes, often foreshadowing a significant backpedal, followed by diversionary tactics and ultimately an unpleasant but curiously-enjoyable beatdown.

Aight, then.

I take back every bad word I ever said about punk-azz Jimmah.

Nice.

Well, the fact that it was at Crap in Terrychester's expense doesn't suck much at all, either. But still, I would've applauded that effort had it been at my expense as well.

Poor Crappy, still trying to save face afterwards, is even more humorous and revealing.

[Diogenes]

You don't remember what happened in 1968? 1972?

Do the words "Nixon's Southern Strategy" mean anything to you?

Pat Buchanan??????

I see Pat conveniently overlooks the many Liberals who defected to the GOP during the 70's and 80's. Not that I expected him to be honest about that period in history.

FTFY.

And Mikey says you're a moron...

Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.

[Felix]

Sorry felix....
Fester wins this round.

you're right of course......

[Moving Sale]

A pint of what? No. I don't want to know.

Whatever our euro friend would want. I'll just have my regular glass of white wine.

There is a great Nishlord story there, but I'm not telling it.

[Van]

Fag!

Tell the story! You know deep down he'd want you to! It's...Euro.

Shame ain't his game.

[Jerkovich]

A pint of what? No. I don't want to know.

Whatever our euro friend would want. I'll just have my regular glass of white wine.

There is a great Nishlord story there, but I'm not telling it.

Of what? How you took it in the cack hole?

[Risa]

The reason our military is as superb as it is is the fact that is all-volunteer.

Total crap. The reason our military is as suberb as it is is because it is very experienced.

Our conscripts did a fine job in the Civil War, WW2 and Vietnam.

So why are Civil War soldiers 'better prepared' (in that they could shell out for their own, if they can afford it) than the US soldiers in Iraq right now who are denied the right to privately buy themselves better armor since the US government is not supplying suitable armor to them?

If our soldiers are afraid for their lives out there....

[Risa]

So why are Civil War soldiers 'better prepared'

They weren't. They got slaughtered in heaps.

you meant this sarcastically, then?

"Total crap. The reason our military is as suberb as it is is because it is very experienced.

Our conscripts did a fine job in the Civil War, WW2 and Vietnam."

If our soldiers are afraid for their lives out there....

Soldiers afraid for their lives?!? During war?!? .....my God.

I will alert the media at once.

They'd be less afraid if they were better armored. Less afraid equals more confidence. More confidence is good for morale. But that's my ignorance speaking on such things, oh he who feeds pork to starving muslims and laughs about it.

Rumsfield was called out a couple years ago over how bad things are.

Are you saying that soldiers shouldn't expect anything from their government except expensive toys and duct tape patch jobs for the field?
that soldiers should expect to be punished if they 'augment' their armor (or lack of armor) in any way to prevent death?

[Dinsdale]

I think I've made it known that I'm pretty anti-Iraq War, but I'm not going to make up bullshit to support my position.

Weekend before last, I had the honor of attending my old buddy's retirement ceremony in honor of his 20 years of dignified service in the USAF(they were just about making up new awards and decorations to give the guy -- RACK him). My buddy is a disabled veteran, courtesy of the Iraq War. He has become good friends with a Marine, due to them both spending a lot of time at the VA. Anyhoo, Marine Corporal Anderson is also a disabled vet. While taking up his position to secure the perimeter of a town where there was an insurgent attack, his unit made a boo-boo, and Mr. Bad Guy jumped out from behind and lit him up with an AK47. 7 freaking times, as a matter of fact(apparently, Mr. Bad Guy changed his name to Mr. Vapor very shortly thereafter). A few hit his leg, and up into his back. There were two shots that would have hit paydirt and probably done him in, except his two layers of body armor deflected them.

My buddy somehow got hornswaggled into riding shotgun on convoy truck. For those that don't know, that's one of the higher-risk jobs in Iraq, which my friend refers to as "RPG target practice for Arabs." Any time he wasn't in his bed pretty much, he was also wearing not one, but two armored vests.

From what he and others veterans/recently deployed military personnel have told me, everybody is wearing two vests pretty much any time they're outside. Even when it's 130 degrees outside.

So, you'll excu8se me if I'm more inclined to believe firsthand accounts than what some muckraking "journalist" has to say about it. And believe it or not, spending the weekend with a bunch of people, most of whom have been to Iraq, often more than once...I heard some crazy freaking stories.

And until it came up in my friend's retirement speech, I never knew his father, whose company I enjoyed so much as a teen(Jim died quite a few years ago) was at the Battle of the Bulge. So I guess I'll just have to RACK him posthumously.



Off we go into the wild blue yonder
Climbing high into the sun

[Risa]

From what he and others veterans/recently deployed military personnel have told me, everybody is wearing two vests pretty much any time they're outside. Even when it's 130 degrees outside.

That's against rules, isn't it?

[Risa]

No, it's not against the rules, you fucking moron.

That what extra armor are soldiers wearing out there that rumsfield and crew are saying they aren't supposed to buy and wear?

[Dinsdale]

That's against rules, isn't it?

Yes, I do believe it's against the rules to show up for duty without both of your vests on.

I was also told it's against the rules to show up for duty in short sleeves, or to roll your sleeves up while on duty, even when it's 130 out. Don't know why, and neither did my buddy, but he speculated that it was because a lot of troops were having severe allergies to the species of sandfleas in the region. Says a lot of dudes are running around with all kinds of nasty looking welts on their forearms from the fleas.


But, rules were made to be broken, I guess. One rule I'd be less inclined to break would be the one where I'm supposed to put on both of the vests, though.

[Dinsdale]

You think Rummy and Bush want soldiers to be inadequately equipped and injured?

I think I've made my opinion of these two guys pretty well-known, too...

But this statement is oozing "common sense" all over the floor. But don't tell Risa that.

[Uncle Fester]

The Army should hit up George Lucas for some of those leftover Star Wars storm trooper outfits.

[Dinsdale]

Don't know why,

You dehydrate faster, that's why. Light, loose clothing will keep you cooler in the desert. The sweat evaporates off of exposed skin too quickly to cool you...so you sweat more etc. etc.

Makes perfect sense to me. I grew up hearing tales of the brutal weather in the Middle East, as my Dad worked in the oil fields of Abadan in the early 50's. He seemed to agree that the shit is "no joke." I think he said his hottest day there was something like 136...and windy. "If it isn't wrapped in something, don't plan on touching it any time soon."

Although my bud says the fleas pretty much suck ass, too. Then again, where there's sand, there's sandfleas (I think), and life goes on.

[mothster]

Don't know why,

You dehydrate faster, that's why. Light, loose clothing will keep you cooler in the desert. The sweat evaporates off of exposed skin too quickly to cool you...so you sweat more etc. etc.

Makes perfect sense to me. I grew up hearing tales of the brutal weather in the Middle East, as my Dad worked in the oil fields of Abadan in the early 50's. He seemed to agree that the shit is "no joke." I think he said his hottest day there was something like 136...and windy. "If it isn't wrapped in something, don't plan on touching it any time soon."

Although my bud says the fleas pretty much suck ass, too. Then again, where there's sand, there's sandfleas (I think), and life goes on.

what about those camel spiders

[Dinsdale]

After a few months in the field there you understand why those towel head motherfuckers are so irritable all the time.

Damn. My Air Force bud (who made several trips to Iraq, Kuwait, Sausi, and few other places around the Gulf in all his years) could have typed that, word for word.

Might be something to it, eh?

[Tom In VA]

No Sex
No Jacking It
Sand

[Dinsdale]

That dude's a chick, mang.

And I freaking swear, that if Risa comes in here and starts doing one of her fasion breakdowns of this fucker, I swear I'm going to swallow a bullet.

[Uncle Fester]

The latest from the U.S. Army:



Comes with an oil can and everything.

[Tom In VA]

No jacking it? Uh...not really. Porn is as good as gold as a medium of exchange.

I remember this little Kuwaiti private at Camp Doha trading watches for Hustlers.

"You haf peektures? Amerdikan gulls fawkink?"

I was just resetting this week's South Park episode mocking how our leaders and media cower in fear at the thought of Muslims being upset over cartoons.

In teaching why Muslims are so "irritable" Mr. Garrison mentions:

No Sex
No Jacking it
Sand

[Terry in Crapchester]

what about those camel spiders

The least of your concerns. Sand fleas, sand flies, big ass "uparmored" horse flies, scorpions, little shits that you can't even see but hurt like fuck when they bite you, you name it it's there making your life miserable.

After a few months in the field there you understand why those towel head motherfuckers are so irritable all the time.

Yep. The Middle East is a shithole, all right. We finally agree on something.

[quacker backer]

WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF CREATIONISM???!!

HOLY SHYTE

[Tom In VA]

WHAT DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF CREATIONISM???!!

HOLY SHYTE

Well this thread, was created and then

It evolved.

[LTS TRN 2]

Contrary to the John Wayne myth of American military prowess and its core of the Essential American Character, America has NEVER really been inclined towards war or, much less, really prepared to fight. On the ground, anyway. Every single war we've entered--usually dragged--we've hurridly sent untrained masses of young men into meat grinders.

Start with the Civil War--what Ezra Pound called "the suicide of the Anglo Saxon race" pretty much defined senseless bulk carnage until,

WWI--where completely unprepared--and bitterly resenting having been drafted--American boys marched straight into the worst meatgrinder--50,000 or so in a year--imaginable, until,

WWII--Oh look, it's the seriously trained marines rolling up on Iwo Jima--straight into a trap that makes Sir Winston's Gallipoli plan seem brilliant by comparison--thank god for the air corp...hey, it's

Korea--where American forces--who had to be drafted--were prepared to be bogged down in a horrid standoff...like,

Viet Nam--where Bogged Down becomes Quagmire of completely unprepared low income, uneducated American army who resent being drafted, and can't win...just like

Wakey Wake--the volunteer army where you can't leave, fighting the War against an abstract noun. Sure we can send in a goodly number of special crack troops--the nazis called these guys SS--we call them Special Forces and "contractors." But if you think the regular foot soldier is still--or ever really was--part of the true American character, you're full of shit. Recruitment is falling quicker than the Chimp.

[Van]

F-

[smackaholic]

Contrary to the John Wayne myth of American military prowess and its core of the Essential American Character, America has NEVER really been inclined towards war or, much less, really prepared to fight. On the ground, anyway. Every single war we've entered--usually dragged--we've hurridly sent untrained masses of young men into meat grinders.

Start with the Civil War--what Ezra Pound called "the suicide of the Anglo Saxon race" pretty much defined senseless bulk carnage until,

WWI--where completely unprepared--and bitterly resenting having been drafted--American boys marched straight into the worst meatgrinder--50,000 or so in a year--imaginable, until,

WWII--Oh look, it's the seriously trained marines rolling up on Iwo Jima--straight into a trap that makes Sir Winston's Gallipoli plan seem brilliant by comparison--thank god for the air corp...hey, it's

Korea--where American forces--who had to be drafted--were prepared to be bogged down in a horrid standoff...like,

Viet Nam--where Bogged Down becomes Quagmire of completely unprepared low income, uneducated American army who resent being drafted, and can't win...just like

Wakey Wake--the volunteer army where you can't leave, fighting the War against an abstract noun. Sure we can send in a goodly number of special crack troops--the nazis called these guys SS--we call them Special Forces and "contractors." But if you think the regular foot soldier is still--or ever really was--part of the true American character, you're full of shit. Recruitment is falling quicker than the Chimp.

funny how when he gets to desert storm, the most one sided beatdown in the history of modern warfare he just skips right past.

he also fails to mention that in each of those wars, our boys gave back, with interest any losses they suffered.

[Dinsdale]

Laters, I Just Turned 2 -- that was some of the worst tripe I've ever read.

And I kinda resent you insulting the brave men that sacrificed their lives so you could sit here and post that crap. You're entitled to your free speech, and you're even entitled to your "opinion," but to dis those who died so you could do so is pretty weak.

Sure, neither Korea, Vietnam, or Iraq were any threat to those freedoms, but the Japanese and Germans sure the hell were. And believe it or not, Americans have better things to do with their time than to spend all day/year preparing for something that might happen. But when that threat comes, as it did in 1941, the brave men and women of America stepped up to the plate and did what needed to be done, at great cost.

And now, you try and diminish their efforts?

Disgusting.

[Dinsdale]

desert storm, the most one sided beatdown in the history of modern warfare

Uhm, not quite.

Sin,
The Falkland Islands