Moderator: Jesus H Christ
God resides in this and all the parellel universes, imo, with the possible exception of hell. The most important place of residence for an individual, however, is in the head, heart and soul ... Chakras ... centers of energy, whichever metaphor you choose.
Dio, have you ever read "Does God Have a Nature?" by Alvin Plantinga?
That's pretty much -believe it or not- what I was taught by the Franciscan friars in my CCD classes (back when I was RC). I may have ditched a good chunk of the RC stuff when I "went Protestant," but the idea of the ultimate, worst punishment possible is eternal exclusion from God's presence (and the eternal awareness of that condition) stuck with me.Diogenes wrote: Incidently, I'm partial to the theory that hell is the absolute absense of God.
Me too.Diogenes wrote:God resides in this and all the parellel universes, imo, with the possible exception of hell. The most important place of residence for an individual, however, is in the head, heart and soul ... Chakras ... centers of energy, whichever metaphor you choose.
Dio, have you ever read "Does God Have a Nature?" by Alvin Plantinga?
No, but I'll look into it. Incidently, I'm partial to the theory that hell is the absolute absense of God.
It will be the next book I buy and read, if you find a copy of Plantiga's book.Check out C.S. Lewis The Great Divorce.
Ummmmm.....wrong author.RadioFan wrote:Granted, my exposure to C.S. Lewis was in Texas. The idiotic bitch of a teacher assigned "Lives of a Cell" after Orwell's "1984." I couldn't stomach it, after reading 1984. I had read Animal Farm, but 1984 is a different animal, so to speak. And to try to read C.S. Lewis, meandering about mitochondria and spirituality, after that? Please.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I HATED "Lives of a cell." Hated everything about it, in fact. Never had any inclination of ever reading any C.S. Lewis again, but I'll buy The Great Divorce, as long as he doesn't ramble on about his own myopic bullshit. (Sorry, but being assigned to read "Lives of a Cell," after "1984," it was myopic bullshit, and boring as hell, at least as a junior in high school.)
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
A whole lot of clergy and theologians seems to disagree with your ready dismissal of his works - my younger brother is a Carmelite monk and has told me that several of Lewis's works (esp. 'Screwtape Letters") were required reading during his seminary days, and both my current parish priest (Episcopalain) and an old college friend (Baptist minister) have stated that Lewis's "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" were used in their divinity classes.SunCoastSooner wrote:Consulting English professors on matters of religion and theology is always the best source.
I would say I'm shocked but I'm not.Mike the Lab Rat wrote:A whole lot of clergy and theologians seems to disagree with your ready dismissal of his works - my younger brother is a Carmelite monk and has told me that several of Lewis's works (esp. 'Screwtape Letters") were required reading during his seminary days, and both my current parish priest (Episcopalain) and an old college friend (Baptist minister) have stated that Lewis's "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" were used in their divinity classes.SunCoastSooner wrote:Consulting English professors on matters of religion and theology is always the best source.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
Well we've seen what kind of barmy nutjobs you have been using (until recently) as source material.SunCoastSooner wrote:I would say I'm shocked but I'm not.Mike the Lab Rat wrote:A whole lot of clergy and theologians seems to disagree with your ready dismissal of his works - my younger brother is a Carmelite monk and has told me that several of Lewis's works (esp. 'Screwtape Letters") were required reading during his seminary days, and both my current parish priest (Episcopalain) and an old college friend (Baptist minister) have stated that Lewis's "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" were used in their divinity classes.SunCoastSooner wrote:Consulting English professors on matters of religion and theology is always the best source.
I use nuts, screw balls, jackasses, and head cases as well. Most of them have degrees in their fields though. I don't consult a monk about chemistry or a mathmatician about social psychology.Diogenes wrote:Well we've seen what kind of barmy nutjobs you have been using (until recently) as source material.SunCoastSooner wrote:I would say I'm shocked but I'm not.Mike the Lab Rat wrote: A whole lot of clergy and theologians seems to disagree with your ready dismissal of his works - my younger brother is a Carmelite monk and has told me that several of Lewis's works (esp. 'Screwtape Letters") were required reading during his seminary days, and both my current parish priest (Episcopalain) and an old college friend (Baptist minister) have stated that Lewis's "Mere Christianity" and "Screwtape Letters" were used in their divinity classes.
Come on, you knew that one was coming. :twisted:
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
Funny you should say that.....my younger brother (the Carmelite) has a M.A. in chemistry and is finishing up his PhD in the subject.SunCoastSooner wrote: I don't consult a monk about chemistry or a mathmatician about social psychology.
That's an exception to the rule not the normality and we both know it. There are exceptions to any blanketing statement such as I made but for the most part it is correct.Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Funny you should say that.....my younger brother (the Carmelite) has a M.A. in chemistry and is finishing up his PhD in the subject.SunCoastSooner wrote: I don't consult a monk about chemistry or a mathmatician about social psychology.
Plenty of folks have depth of knowledge in a field without having a sheepskin framed for all to see.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
C.S. Lewis is nothing more than regurgitation put into eloquent words.Diogenes wrote:There is an exception to every rule....
As a rule, I generally don't give a rat's ass about someone's 'credentials' if their arguments are bullshit, or the lack thereof if they are insightful and compelling.
And Lewis is far from the exception to that one.
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
So this part of Judaism is acceptable now?Diogenes wrote:...
I'm partial to the theory that hell is the absolute absense of God...
BSmack wrote:I can certainly infer from that blurb alone that you are self righteous, bible believing, likely a Baptist or Presbyterian...
Miryam wrote:but other than that, it's cool, man. you're a christer.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Okay, Sunny, yer cards are on table as a flat-out Christer.
DOH.Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Ummmmm.....wrong author.
"Lives of a Cell" is by Lewis Thomas.
