Just bought a new vacuum for the bargain price of.....

[Dinsdale]

I didn’t realize you had a motorized dildo.

I didn't either, until I read the real estate thread.

I learn new stuff here all the time.

[Mikey]

Mikey, enjoy fussing over your vaccum cleaner. I like high quality appliances. It's just a personal preference. Let me know how changing the bag every week go's for you, buddy.

I didn't mean to squash your manhood.

The only thing you're likely to have squashed lately is your lazy-boy.

You haven't even mentioned what you consider to be "high quality".

I'd say, though, that it's more likely that you enjoy being able to spend $400 more than you have to to buy something that doesn't really work any better, just so you can say you did.

Tell me something, though, in all seriousness. You don't have to change the bag on whatever appliance you claim to be using, I guess. Do you not have to empty the "dust cup" or whatever you call it? Apparently you have a $600 vacuum that doesn't get used. Why am I not surprised?

[RadioFan]

Hardwood floors.

I got a sweet deal the other day ...




Only $275.

[Jack]

I got me one of these:



Best Vac EVER. Cleans the room and parks itself to recharge. I don't have to do anything but empty the dirt cartridge.

Mister B,

Do you really like that Vac??

I bought alot of stock in the company due to their military robots (Best in Class!!!) I figured that the Vacuum would be decent but does it really clean??

[smackaholic]

I didn’t realize you had a motorized dildo.

I didn't either, until I read the real estate thread.

I learn new stuff here all the time.

dins, it was a six horse, with the gax as hell electric start.

[smackaholic]

I am also the proud owner of a kirby. I'm just not stupid enough to drop more than I've paid for a number of cars. Some where even good cars. Rack you husker for taking the hit on this thing. I bought mine, with all the bells and whistles for 200 bucks.

As for how well it works, I don't know if it sux any harder than a new plastic pos, but, I am fairly certain that this fukking thing will outlast me. It is made out of, get this, real fukking metal. And it has real bearing and all that other shit. I suspect that eventually, something will wear out on it, but, I will be able to actually fix it.

It is heavier than most, but, it is still easy enough to carry up the stairs. And the drive system is awesome. This thing goes where you want it to before you even think about it.

[trev]

Tell me something, though, in all seriousness. You don't have to change the bag on whatever appliance you claim to be using, I guess. Do you not have to empty the "dust cup" or whatever you call it? Apparently you have a $600 vacuum that doesn't get used. Why am I not surprised?

I use my vacuum cleaner A LOT. So, I need a DURABLE one. I paid more for it, not for bragging rights but because I need something that won't fall apart. I empty it a couple times a week, which is quite a breeze of a task. You see, it fills up because it actually picks up a lot. I'm actually quite frugal and I'm saving quite a bit a year on bags. With a spoiled husky and lots of kids around the house a cheap vacuum like you have will not suffice.

[Atomic Punk]

trev, you are the vacuum cleaner I dream about in a Moreese kind of way.

Love you toots! :winkie:

[Mister Bushice]

I got me one of these:



Best Vac EVER. Cleans the room and parks itself to recharge. I don't have to do anything but empty the dirt cartridge.

Mister B,

Do you really like that Vac??

I bought alot of stock in the company due to their military robots (Best in Class!!!) I figured that the Vacuum would be decent but does it really clean??

It's awesome. It gets completely under the beds and some of the furniture like the tables, and it has surprisingly good suckage for a small vac unit, easy to clean, and once you start it up, you can leave it be.

About the only downside is we have a great room that is too big for it's battery to manage on one turn, so we have to split up the space, but we turn it loose in any regular room and it will vacuum it and park it self for recharge when completed. Carpeting or hard floors are no problem and no resetting is needed. it even has a dirt detector so when it hits a pile of something, it spins around and picks it all up before resuming.

And there are no bags or anything. Just a simple filter, and a removable plastic dust bin. Cleans better than any upright we ever had. Definitely worth the price.

Better to get the unit with the sensors. The unit without the built in sensors has to bump into everything to clean the room. It does no damage to anything as it is a flexible bumper, but still over time I can imagine that part would get rather worn out.

[trev]

trev, you are the vacuum cleaner I dream about in a Moreese kind of way.

Love you toots! :winkie:

Aww man.

I won't ask what a "Moreese kind of way is."

Thanks sweetie!

[Husker4ever]

It's essentially "good for the price". That doesn't make it "as good or better" than a Kirby. It just isn't. It's not even subjective.

Did you read the review?

Reviews say the Eureka 4870 is the best value in a bagging upright vacuum cleaner, cleaning as well or better than more expensive models, especially on carpet.

So tell me, just what makes a Kirby "better". I'd really like to know because in my 50+ years I've used many different vacuum cleaners and this Eureka cleans dirt, pet hair and anything else from carpets as well or better than any other vacuum I've tried. To me, this is the basic requirement for a vacuum. The fact that it has a very functional upholstery tool with a powered brush, and the HEPA filter are added "plusses". Also, you can turn the carpet brush off when you are doing bare floors.


I haven't used a recent new Kirby, but I've used them before and have not found them to be that superior. I'd really like to know what makes them worth 3 times (or whatever) the price.

I'd imagine the lifetime warranty has something to do with it. When your Eureka boss is sucking a hind tit in 4 years with it's worn out brush roller and half-burnt motor.....my Kirby will be hitting its stride and the warranty hasn't expired like your Boss' The Kirby brush roller will last a minimum of 5 years before replacement. By that time the Eureka is a shit-box shadow of its' former self. Time for another few bills to replace.

After 10 years of shampooing, pet grooming (it has a delicate mode for this and cleaning drapes and other shit) cleaning wood floors, waxing floors, buffing floors, I can send it in for a complete rebuild if it needs it. It'll probably last 15 to 20 before this is needed. It will only cost me 175 bucks with free shipping both ways.

Not to mention my carpets' life expectancy will double. Although a significant investment, over time it is an incredible value and you get the ultra-clean floors and cleaner air which is the reason we vacuum in the first place...our health, hygiene, and the appearance of our homes.

(Can you tell I'm still rationalizing to myself spending that much cash on a vacuum? )

[Husker4ever]

I am also the proud owner of a kirby. I'm just not stupid enough to drop more than I've paid for a number of cars. Some where even good cars. Rack you husker for taking the hit on this thing. I bought mine, with all the bells and whistles for 200 bucks.

As for how well it works, I don't know if it sux any harder than a new plastic pos, but, I am fairly certain that this fukking thing will outlast me. It is made out of, get this, real fukking metal. And it has real bearing and all that other shit. I suspect that eventually, something will wear out on it, but, I will be able to actually fix it.

It is heavier than most, but, it is still easy enough to carry up the stairs. And the drive system is awesome. This thing goes where you want it to before you even think about it.

Which crackhead did you score a Kirby off for 200? Is it the "Utimate G" series? Scoreboard you.

[Mikey]

OK you convinced me.

I'm trading my Eureka in next week.

Actually I'm in the process of getting rid of all my wall to wall carpet and putting in laminate. Much easier to keep clean.

[Dinsdale]

Actually I'm in the process of getting rid of all my wall to wall carpet and putting in laminate.

Just remember, before installing laminate floors, it's very important to check the tire pressure of your "foundation" to ensure that it will hold the extra weight.

Are you going with the traditional almost-sorta-almost-looks-like-wood laminate, or the new Dale Earnhardt #8 pattern?

[Goober McTuber]

Actually I'm in the process of getting rid of all my wall to wall carpet and putting in laminate.

Just remember, before installing laminate floors, it's very important to check the tire pressure of your "foundation" to ensure that it will hold the extra weight.

Are you going with the traditional almost-sorta-almost-looks-like-wood laminate, or the new Dale Earnhardt #8 pattern?

And don't forget the square-head screws this time, you fucking amateur.

[Dinsdale]

And don't forget the square-head screws this time, you fucking amateur.

EXACTLY!

Actually, it's even better than that -- laminate manufacturers know the market they're going after, so they make it so it doesn't even attach to the floor. Shit (and I do mean "shit") literally just sits there. Less instructions for Cletus to read when he's sprucing up that double-wide with some of that thar plastic wood flooring.


The name "laminate" comes from the idea they "laminate" a cheap piece of particle board with a freaking sticker that's supposed to look like wood.


I wonder of Pergo fixed their problem (namely making the crap so freaking cheaply that it doesn't sit flat on the floor), or if they're still knowingly selling a defective product and not reimbursing people for the labor to fix it? Why wouldn't they? Louisiana Pacific got away with knowingly selling defective materials, and they were allowed to stick Johnny Q with the bill, so I guess that's all the incentive Pergo needs to do the same.

[PSUFAN]

The name "laminate" comes from the idea they "laminate" a cheap piece of particle board with a freaking sticker that's supposed to look like wood.

Yeh...and? What if I buy it for $16,000? It'll be a laminate unlike any othah.

--H4E

[atomicdad]

Amtico

[Goober McTuber]

I use my vacuum cleaner A LOT. So, I need a DURABLE one. I paid more for it, not for bragging rights but because I need something that won't fall apart. I empty it a couple times a week, which is quite a breeze of a task.

A couple of times a week? WTF, you got a dirt floor?

[Mikey]

And don't forget the square-head screws this time, you fucking amateur.

EXACTLY!

Actually, it's even better than that -- laminate manufacturers know the market they're going after, so they make it so it doesn't even attach to the floor. Shit (and I do mean "shit") literally just sits there. Less instructions for Cletus to read when he's sprucing up that double-wide with some of that thar plastic wood flooring.


The name "laminate" comes from the idea they "laminate" a cheap piece of particle board with a freaking sticker that's supposed to look like wood.


I wonder of Pergo fixed their problem (namely making the crap so freaking cheaply that it doesn't sit flat on the floor), or if they're still knowingly selling a defective product and not reimbursing people for the labor to fix it? Why wouldn't they? Louisiana Pacific got away with knowingly selling defective materials, and they were allowed to stick Johnny Q with the bill, so I guess that's all the incentive Pergo needs to do the same.

Yeah, I'm doing the sorta almost looks like wood stuff. So fucking what?

It's resilient, it doesn't look too cheap, it's a lot less expensive than the real thing, and it's one helluva lot cleaner than my 17 year old carpet. Pretty comfortable to walk on too, if you get the decent quality pad.

I've installed a hardwood floor over a slab on grade before. Almost fuckin' killed myself getting it done, and I was a lot younger then than I am now.

I'm not fooling myself here. You make certain tradeoffs when you don't have the disposable income to buy solid cherrywood planks and have them professionally installed. This shit is a compromise, but it will be a big improvement over what's down there now.

[Dinsdale]

...over a slab on grade ....I'm not fooling myself here.

Dude...you're really taking the "fun" out of "making FUN of Mikey."

Just sayin'.

Slab-on-grade. Say no more. A coat of cheap polyuerethane paint is a "high-end" setup for slab-on-grade. Kind of a bitch to deal with, as far as flooring goes. Not that just about any setup can't be done, but it all kinda sucks over a slab.

Laminate away.

[Husker4ever]

Laminate flooring is an easy install. I installed it in my rental house (first house I ever bought) and couldn't believe the difference in appearance. I went with some Tarkett brand (cause it's a rental) so the quality isn't the best but it has held up pretty good through 4 renters thus far.

My duplex has beautiful, original solid oak flooring under the carpeting in both units. Both are covered in carpeting but one renter just moved out and his carpeting was shot (old stuff) As I pulled it up, I decided to just buy a nice area rug for the living room and a smaller one for the bedrooms and leave the wood exposed. The area rugs cost less than half the price of carpeting and need no installation. I've shown the place to a couple of potential renters and they were both flipping out over the beauty of the floors.

My current pad also has the original oak flooring, crown moulding, trim and open oak staircase. The floors and and center of the stairs are carpeted with some high-end carpeting that is less than 2 years old so I'm going to leave it covered for now.

Original hardwood flooring is pretty common here in Nebraska it seems.



PSUfan....I didn't pay any extra for it. It came with the place.

[Jack]

Thanks for your review Mr. Bushice!!

:)

[Mikey]

...over a slab on grade ....I'm not fooling myself here.

Dude...you're really taking the "fun" out of "making FUN of Mikey."

Just sayin'.

Slab-on-grade. Say no more. A coat of cheap polyuerethane paint is a "high-end" setup for slab-on-grade. Kind of a bitch to deal with, as far as flooring goes. Not that just about any setup can't be done, but it all kinda sucks over a slab.

Laminate away.

It's not NICE to make fun of Mikey. He has a very short fuse.

Goddammit.



Very few wood floor homes built here in Cali in the past 50 years (the time frame when 99.99% of them were built). Almost all concrete slab unless it's either:

1. Some multi-gazillionaire's home built on stilts hanging out over a hillside or canyon somewhere

or

2. A pre-fab home bought in pieces and trucked in from Hemet. I think they call them "modular" these days.

Sort of like two opposite ends of the spectrum.

[smackaholic]

Slab on grade sux arse. You would think that a house that goes for better than half a mil would atleast have a crawlspace, if not an actual basement. Why the fukk doesn't anyone in cali bother with digging a basement. It is cheap space and with an inexhaustable supply of messican block layers, it's even cheaper.

My entire downstairs is solid oak. Upstairs, the kids rooms are carpet, our bedroom is some cheap ass (buck/sq ft) laminate I got from big lots of all places. It looks good, but was a pita to put down, because it is very thin and has a shitty interlocking design.

It was a cheap way to get a bedroom floor, but, I wouldn't want to put it in a high traffic area. I don't like the way it flexs under foot.

[Mister Bushice]

Why the fukk doesn't anyone in cali bother with digging a basement.

because of me.

Sin,

The San Andreas fault.

[Dinsdale]

^^^Yup.

Cali codes are tight...for good reason.

Here, we can still do basements, but that's a serious pour.

Did smackaholic say something about "block?"


Funny guy. Pretty sure that hasn't been legal here in a long time. I believe the only permissable CMU construction is slab-on-grade, but I could be mistaken on that. If it bears the weight of a house, I doubt it would even take much of a quake for it to crumble away pretty badly. Hell, the block foundations left from when they were allowed crumble just from the ground shifting, much less a quake. Can't have that. Any that are still around are complete junk at this point.

Pretty sure in cali, if you started laying a CMU basement, they wouldn't fine you -- they'd shoot you on the spot...after they got done laughing.

That shit don't fly Out West, bro. Just like New Englanders can't believe how we finish roofs out here. Something about "the ice dam will fuck that up in no time!"

The "ice what?"

[Cuda]

^^^ Such a load of BS

-sin,
Goober McT.

[Dinsdale]

Coods made me laugh.

[Mister Bushice]

And don't forget the square-head screws this time, you fucking amateur.

EXACTLY!

Actually, it's even better than that -- laminate manufacturers know the market they're going after, so they make it so it doesn't even attach to the floor. Shit (and I do mean "shit") literally just sits there. Less instructions for Cletus to read when he's sprucing up that double-wide with some of that thar plastic wood flooring.


The name "laminate" comes from the idea they "laminate" a cheap piece of particle board with a freaking sticker that's supposed to look like wood.


I wonder of Pergo fixed their problem (namely making the crap so freaking cheaply that it doesn't sit flat on the floor), or if they're still knowingly selling a defective product and not reimbursing people for the labor to fix it? Why wouldn't they? Louisiana Pacific got away with knowingly selling defective materials, and they were allowed to stick Johnny Q with the bill, so I guess that's all the incentive Pergo needs to do the same.

Yeah, I'm doing the sorta almost looks like wood stuff. So fucking what?

It's resilient, it doesn't look too cheap, it's a lot less expensive than the real thing, and it's one helluva lot cleaner than my 17 year old carpet. Pretty comfortable to walk on too, if you get the decent quality pad.

I've installed a hardwood floor over a slab on grade before. Almost fuckin' killed myself getting it done, and I was a lot younger then than I am now.

I'm not fooling myself here. You make certain tradeoffs when you don't have the disposable income to buy solid cherrywood planks and have them professionally installed. This shit is a compromise, but it will be a big improvement over what's down there now.

I installed a pergo wide board laminate in our great room and in the hallways about 4 years ago.

It has a 20 year guarantee. It was a 4 day bitch to install because the room ain't a rectangle, but goddamn it - everyone who comes into the house comments on how great it looks.

I saved myself easily 5 grand on the stock and installation price, and wide board flooring as opposed to those 2 inch wide Mofos are out of sight right now.

Hell, I won't be here in 20 years so I don't give a shit, but when you walk on it, you can't notice a difference. It has a plastic vapor barrier that will keep out all but the major EarthQuake that will kill us all anyway, and a foam base that gives the floor a natural feel. It looks good, too.

No one has guessed it is pergo. Some have said playdough, but they were drunk and thus don't count.

And Dins - FYI - "Laminate" comes from the Latin "I laminatum" meaning " That is not a fake ID".