So disturbed right now

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:22 am

Just finished listening to the two calls released that were played at the Moussaui trial of the two poeple from the WTC. Too disturbing for words...

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:41 am

Link...?

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:30 pm

poptart wrote:Link...?

Last 5 seconds is horrible...

Kevin C Tape

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:34 pm

Toddowen wrote:I don't know.....somebody's got to stick up for this guy.
I tend to back off passing judgement.

I don't. Do us all a favor and please, as soon as possible, kill yourself.

Some Damn Retard · Post by **Some Damn Retard** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:59 pm

But by all means, let's withdraw our military from all corners of the globe and try to reason with the terrorists.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:47 pm

Some Damn Retard wrote:But by all means, let's withdraw our military from all corners of the globe and try to reason with the terrorists.

And had that been the pevalent attitude 60 years ago, there woulnd't be a terrorist threat against American in the first place, now would there?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:21 pm

Not the one we're familiar with anyways.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:27 pm

mvscal wrote: There wouldn't be an America either.

Post-WW2, which country do you think it was that was capable of successfully invading the USA?

Immedaitely after WW@, the Soviets might have been able to pull it off, but they were a little preoccupied at the time.

Cold War -- maybe, but a full-on ground invasion probably wouldn't have succeeded. By the mid-late 50's, the Soviets had missile superiority, and they knew it, but they also knew a nuke attack wouldn't go without a devastating counterattack, so that was a stalemate.

The Chinese? Don't think so.

So, who was going to roll through the US after WW2, that this country wouldn't exist?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:39 pm

mvscal wrote: Who would have stopped them?

Interesting question, albeit strictly hypothetical (but you knew that, just like you know we're FAR from the first people to bring this question up).

I believe that we can deduce from the Soviets' own military leaders that an American invasion wouldn't have been worth the repercussions. Because if they could have, they would have.

As a guy who studies this stuff, mv, I'm sure you realize (and are one of the few), that the Soviets, at various times throughout the Cold War, could have just absolutely ROLLED the US...militarily. There was times when that battle wouldn't even have been close (but you knew that). So, why didn't they?

I think it was because they weren't quite as stupid as they acted at times. If the shoe was on the other hand, and the US began a ground invasion on 1960's USSR, it would have sparked a revolt as well, therby ending the commies' tenure. I believe if there was a Soviet invasion of America, every man, woman, and child would have fought the invaders tooth and nail, with their last dying breath...because that is how We roll.

And the Soviets knew this. What would be the point of invading, if you had to fight 200,000,000 hand-to-hand when you were in?

Sheesh, dude. I'd think you would know this, and I'm suprised you don't. You need to watch Red Dawn and educate yourself.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:49 pm

mvscal wrote: Because we didn't curl up into a ball and withdraw into our shell as you suggested earlier.

Certainly not my suggestion.

I'm what I'd have to call a "moderate isolationist." And if someone crossed our "line-in-the-sand," then I'd bring a wrath the world has never seen.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:51 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
mvscal wrote: Because we didn't curl up into a ball and withdraw into our shell as you suggested earlier.
Certainly not my suggestion.

I'm what I'd have to call a "moderate isolationist." And if someone crossed our "line-in-the-sand," then I'd bring a wrath the world has never seen.

Damn! You and I have more in common then I thought.......

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:54 pm

Neely8 wrote:Damn! You and I have more in common then I thought.......

Apparently quite a bit.

I believe we will always fundamentally differ on one thing, though -- I believe that anyone who attends a Great White concert 20 years after they were almost relevant, deserves to die.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:58 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Neely8 wrote:Damn! You and I have more in common then I thought.......
Apparently quite a bit.

I believe we will always fundamentally differ on one thing, though -- I believe that anyone who attends a Great White concert 20 years after they were almost relevant, deserves to die.

A co-worker of mine who made it out actually asked me to go. I declined. Your right I don't think people deserve to die for it, but my stance on this board and how seriously I take it has changed quite a bit......

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:59 pm

We're burnin' with love tonight...

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:08 pm

Dinsdale wrote:We're burnin' with love tonight...

That's just the herpes talkin.