Oregon, 2005 Pac-10 Champs!!!

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:03 pm

Thanks, Reg

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:21 pm

And Notre Dame gets to go to the BCS while the Pac-10 champions are left out of it?

What's up with that?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:23 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Heh. Where will be the outcry when it's determined that not only did USC not win their conference but didn't win a SINGLE GAME on the way to the BCS title game?

Oh, the humanity.

;)

I'm starting to understand how m2 can count on 12 losses on Cal's way to winning the BCS.

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:24 pm

Forfeitting games?

I love that. As a fan, won't hurt me one bit. We know who won 'em.

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:29 pm

Cal 2004 PAC-10 Champs???

I know, I know... Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but I want to offer a hypothetical assessment of the situation...

If you look at the timeline of the sordid Reggie Bush affair, it shows that he met with Michaels in November of 2004:

November 2004 – LaMar Griffin and Lake approached Michaels about investing in the sports agency. Watkins said Michaels met Bush and his family for the first time around this date, and was led to believe that the agency would eventually have Bush as a client. "There was the representation that Reggie would come with his stepfather," Watkins said. "Reggie ratified that."

If the clock starts ticking at this point in November because of the extra benefits he and his family received, then let's hypothetically say pU$C must forfeit all of their games in which Reggie participated after he received the extra benefits. The following is a list of awards and championships they would have to forfeit:

- 2004 National Championship
- 2004 PAC-10 Championship (Cal champion at 8-0)
- Nov 2, 2004 - #1 USC 28, Oregon State 20
- Nov 9, 2004 - #1 USC 49, Arizona 9
- Dec 4, 2004 - #1 USC 29, UCLA 24
- 2005 PAC-10 Championship (Oregon champion at 8-0)
- 2005 Heisman Trophy

The official Heisman ballot includes this wording: "In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bonafide student of an accredited university. The recipient must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student."

We don't know the exact date in November 2004 in which the infractions first took place, but there could be up to 3 PAC-10 wins they would have to forfeit, giving Cal the championship.

I realize it's very early to jump to any conclusions, and a lot has to happen for it to come to this, but I thought I would throw this out there as food for thought...

m2

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:36 pm

Aint gonna happen. Oregon and Cal arent going to get conference championship banners b/c of forfeit. This isnt Little League?? Why would you accept those cheap championships anyway?

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:54 pm

Cicero wrote:

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:42 pm

IndyFrisco wrote: I'm starting to understand how m2 can count on 12 losses on Cal's way to winning the BCS.

That. Was. Funny.

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:57 pm

Was Ohio State stripped of their title?

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:30 am

Dumbass wrote:Was Ohio State stripped of their title?

For what?