...why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

[mouse]

Before anyone flames me or thinks this is race baiting? Trust me, this is a legit question. I have spent the last two weeks reserching this very topic.
And I have yet to find in any history books on how the Blacks became the best Bar BQ makers on the planet. How did they get so good at it? I have yet to see a picture of some black man in Africa with a webber.

Can anyone toss some light on this subject? why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

[mothster]

mostly for bringing aunt jemima's secret sauce over from africa

[Jacktown Smack]

Found this some time ago when I was thinking about this very subject...sort of. Moreso the birth of BBQ rather than "why blacks", but same vein.

History of BBQ

[PSUFAN]

Also - why do Swedes suck at making Salsa Verde?

Chilaquiles - fuggetabout it

[Cicero]

I dont think balcks make the best BBQ.

[lk_pick1]

As I was reading this - I found something totally hilarious -

With the tantilizing hickory barbecue smell drawing the customer through the ranch-style doors, he is immediately greeted.

From that moment of entry until the lick of a barbecue rib, the customer is attended by genuinely concerned employees.

For those of us who've been to Gates - you walk in the door and a black chick screams, "HI MAY I HELP YOU"

Sound unusual? It's standard procedure at all six Gates and Sons Bar-B-Q units in Kansas City. The friendly, helpful attitude is born at the Gates College of Bar-B-Que Knowledge, better known as Rib Tech.

Managers and cooks as well as blockpersons (sandwich makers and rib cutters), counter personnel, and dinning room attendants attend the training classes while they learn with on-the-job training at one of the Gates location.

That should say blackpersons. There are no whiteys at Gates. However, they make some killer bbq.

[lk_pick1]

As much as I love Dreamland, I have to admit that the Blues City Cafe in Memphis has the best ribs I've ever tasted. And I will be chowing down on them again in a matter of a couple wekks. YES!!!

When I first moved to Memphis many years ago, we went there, I believe it was & I ordered a bbq sandwich. It had freakin cole slaw on it. I thought I was gonna barf my lungs up. I now realize thats one of those weird southern traditions.

[lk_pick1]

As much as I love Dreamland, I have to admit that the Blues City Cafe in Memphis has the best ribs I've ever tasted. And I will be chowing down on them again in a matter of a couple wekks. YES!!!

When I first moved to Memphis many years ago, we went there, I believe it was & I ordered a bbq sandwich. It had freakin cole slaw on it. I thought I was gonna barf my lungs up. I now realize thats one of those weird southern traditions.

Hmmm...I've never had that. May have to try it.

We have lots of weirder traditions than that. Most of which involve our cousins...

I do miss the hell outta grits when we go for breakfast. I'll say that much.

[4 king guy]

why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

It may be because they have BIG DICKS!!!

I happen to be Black Irish! and I can BBQ!!

[Jacktown Smack]

why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

It may be because they have BIG DICKS!!!

I happen to be Black Irish! and I can BBQ!!

What do you BBQ being Black Irish? Whisky-soaked potatoes?

[4 king guy]

why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

It may be because they have BIG DICKS!!!

I happen to be Black Irish! and I can BBQ!!

What do you BBQ being Black Irish? Whisky-soaked potatoes?

Potatoes??? Maybe we should try that next.

Whiskey soaked Whiskey, seemed to be good enough!!

[M2]

I dont think balcks make the best BBQ.

... and there's Crown in a nutshell.

[Jacktown Smack]

It may be because they have BIG DICKS!!!

I happen to be Black Irish! and I can BBQ!!

What do you BBQ being Black Irish? Whisky-soaked potatoes?

Potatoes??? Maybe we should try that next.

Whiskey soaked Whiskey, seemed to be good enough!!

Beer-soaked whiskey's none too shabby.

[A.C. Crut]

slaw on your BBQ pork sammich is a staple, warsh it down wiff sweettea...taste so good make you slap your granny some

[Jacktown Smack]

slaw on your BBQ pork sammich is a staple, warsh it down wiff sweettea...taste so good make you slap your granny some

Rack 'im.

[lk_pick1]

No, its gross.

[Jacktown Smack]

No, its gross.

No, you're wrong.

[bbqjones]

bwhahahahahah

so many softballs in this thread.

bwahah

[M2]

bwhahahahahah

so many softballs in this thread.

bwahah

Bwhahahahahahahahaha!


bbqjones

[lk_pick1]

Is that really him? All this time I thought he was black.

[War Wagon]

Sound unusual? It's standard procedure at all six Gates and Sons Bar-B-Q units in Kansas City. The friendly, helpful attitude is born at the Gates College of Bar-B-Que Knowledge, better known as Rib Tech.

Managers and cooks as well as blockpersons (sandwich makers and rib cutters), counter personnel, and dinning room attendants attend the training classes while they learn with on-the-job training at one of the Gates location.

That should say blackpersons. There are no whiteys at Gates. However, they make some killer bbq.

Gates BBQ is ok, but I've forgotten more about BBQ than that rookie will ever know.

Sin,
http://www.arthurbryantsbbq.com/

True story. I once stopped at the Gates on 40 Hi-way 'cause I had a hankerin' for some short ends. I walk in the door and the black bitch behind the counter hollers her "Hi, may I hep you!" screed.

Me: Yeah, I'd like some short-ends.

BB: We don't got no short ends.

Me: WTF? :? This is a BBQ joint and you don't have any short ends?

BB: We done runned out.

Me: How the hell do you "run out" of short ends? That would be like the water department running out of water.

BB: (glaring) We ain't got none...(unsaid)...you white motherfucker.

Me: Then I suggest you tell your manager to shag his ass down to 12th and Brooklyn and russle up some them shorties, "cause I'm out of here.

Fuck Gates and his no short-end having, rude ass employees.

[M2]

Sound unusual? It's standard procedure at all six Gates and Sons Bar-B-Q units in Kansas City. The friendly, helpful attitude is born at the Gates College of Bar-B-Que Knowledge, better known as Rib Tech.

Managers and cooks as well as blockpersons (sandwich makers and rib cutters), counter personnel, and dinning room attendants attend the training classes while they learn with on-the-job training at one of the Gates location.

That should say blackpersons. There are no whiteys at Gates. However, they make some killer bbq.

Gates BBQ is ok, but I've forgotten more about BBQ than that rookie will ever know.

Sin,
http://www.arthurbryantsbbq.com/

True story. I once stopped at the Gates on 40 Hi-way 'cause I had a hankerin' for some short ends. I walk in the door and the black bitch behind the counter hollers her "Hi, may I hep you!" screed.

Me: Yeah, I'd like some short-ends.

BB: We don't got no short ends.

Me: WTF? :? This is a BBQ joint and you don't have any short ends?

BB: We done runned out.

Me: How the hell do you "run out" of short ends? That would be like the water department running out of water.

BB: (glaring) We ain't got none...(unsaid)...you white motherfucker.

Me: Then I suggest you tell your manager to shag his ass down to 12th and Brooklyn and russle up some them shorties, "cause I'm out of here.

Fuck Gates and his no short-end having, rude ass employees.

You need to go to the downtown one... in Kansas City, KS. near the county jail. I think that's the original one and everyone is cool. The BBQ kicks much ass!

[Bobby42]

The "Jazz and Rib Fest" is held every summer along the Scioto River in downtown Columbus, Ohio. Folks from across the country set up their stands and serve some of the best BBQ ribs you have ever tasted. Infact, many are contest winners and proudly display the trophies to prove it.

I've never counted the number of black or white vendors along the boulevard. Never occurred to me to do so. It didn't matter. If you can fix up damn good food then you'll have plenty hungry folks standing in a line.

BBQ ribs, icy cold brew and relaxing on a lawn chair listening to some jams. Perfect.

BTW mouse, your post wasn't racist - just short-sighted.

[lk_pick1]

Sound unusual? It's standard procedure at all six Gates and Sons Bar-B-Q units in Kansas City. The friendly, helpful attitude is born at the Gates College of Bar-B-Que Knowledge, better known as Rib Tech.

Managers and cooks as well as blockpersons (sandwich makers and rib cutters), counter personnel, and dinning room attendants attend the training classes while they learn with on-the-job training at one of the Gates location.

That should say blackpersons. There are no whiteys at Gates. However, they make some killer bbq.

Gates BBQ is ok, but I've forgotten more about BBQ than that rookie will ever know.

Sin,
http://www.arthurbryantsbbq.com/

True story. I once stopped at the Gates on 40 Hi-way 'cause I had a hankerin' for some short ends. I walk in the door and the black bitch behind the counter hollers her "Hi, may I hep you!" screed.

Me: Yeah, I'd like some short-ends.

BB: We don't got no short ends.

Me: WTF? :? This is a BBQ joint and you don't have any short ends?

BB: We done runned out.

Me: How the hell do you "run out" of short ends? That would be like the water department running out of water.

BB: (glaring) We ain't got none...(unsaid)...you white motherfucker.

Me: Then I suggest you tell your manager to shag his ass down to 12th and Brooklyn and russle up some them shorties, "cause I'm out of here.

Fuck Gates and his no short-end having, rude ass employees.

You need to go to the downtown one... in Kansas City, KS. near the county jail. I think that's the original one and everyone is cool. The BBQ kicks much ass!

I HATE the one on 40 highway. Actually, M2, the original is at 19th & Vine and its the shiite.

I don't care for Bryant's because of the smoky flavor so much, but it's okay. I looooove the ambiance of the one by downtown. Notsomuch for the one at the boat.

Went to the smokebox they opened in Zona Rosa a couple of weeks ago. YUCK. Seriously. For upscaleyness I kinda like Fiorellas.

I still have never had Haywards. Don't know why, maybe we'll do that next weekend. (Edit, doing our own grilling this weekend)

[XXXL]

Baby back ribs tommorrow night...

[Husker4ever]

Before anyone flames me or thinks this is race baiting? Trust me, this is a legit question. I have spent the last two weeks reserching this very topic.
And I have yet to find in any history books on how the Blacks became the best Bar BQ makers on the planet. How did they get so good at it? I have yet to see a picture of some black man in Africa with a webber.

Can anyone toss some light on this subject? why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

I don't know about blacks being the "best" at BBQ'ing, but as for why so many became good at it....I read somewhere how plantation owners would give the slave workers the less desireable cuts of meat (the sinewy, grisly, and otherwise tough cuts)

Necessity being the mother of invention, the slaves simply took these shitty cuts of meat and found a way to make them taste better and make them more tender.

Probably passed that shit down over the generations the same way chinese folks make the best chinese food.

I guess that means the slaves invented BBQ?

[lk_pick1]

Very well could be, husker.

That scene in Fried Green Tomatoes comes to mind...

[patsy stone]

slaw on your BBQ pork sammich is a staple, warsh it down wiff sweettea...taste so good make you slap your granny some

Rack 'im.

I second that! YUM!

Anyone ever had the dry ribs at Sticky Fingers? I can eat those every day of the week...

http://www.stickyfingersonline.com/


EDIT: We were at work once trying to check out their menu online, and we typed "stickyfingers.com" and THAT was not a good thing to do there.

[War Wagon]

...the original is at 19th & Vine and its the shiite.

The original Gates BBQ is at 12th and Brooklyn...did I not already say that? 1221 Brooklyn to be exact. About 4 blocks north of Arthur Bryants.

Went to the smokebox they opened in Zona Rosa a couple of weeks ago.

It's not a "smokebox", and you obviously didn't go there.

It's called Smoke House BBQ, and that is the fucking BOMB of all BBQ ...period.

Please refrain from ever commenting on BBQ.

[ElvisMonster]

Like 15 posts about ribs and not one mention of a crockpot. You almost had me thinking y'all knew what you were talking about.

[Mississippi Neck]

As much as I love Dreamland, I have to admit that the Blues City Cafe in Memphis has the best ribs I've ever tasted. And I will be chowing down on them again in a matter of a couple wekks. YES!!!

Try the Rendezvous for the best ribs in Memphis...

[War Wagon]

While we're on the subject....anything referred to as "Barbeque" outside of Kansas City just ISN'T, OK? WE are Tha Shizzle when it comes to REAL barbeque, PERIOD. Anything else is total HORSESHIT.

I doubt that Paul. I'm quite certain that there are many BBQ joints outside KC that would measure up. That one e mentions in Texas, for instance. I'm heading down that way in August, and plan on stopping by to sample it and maybe pick up some jerky for the road.

I will say though that KC has to have more good BBQ restaraunts per capita than any other city in the world. Two I would add to the list are Rosedale and that new one out by the NASCAR track, Famous Dave's.

All this talk of BBQ made me have a craving today, so I called in a take out order at the Smoke House in Gladstone. Two rib dinners for less than $25.00 including fries and to die for beans...you almost feel like a thief walking out of there after having scored that so cheaply.

Ribs where the meat is so tender it almost falls off the bone and then melts in your mouth as you savor the hickory smoked flavor...hmmm, pure culinary ectasy.

Oh, and btw e, I'd drive twenty extra minutes down North Oak and endure endless traffic lights, road construction, and dipshit drivers, to get to the Smoke House...long after I had passed Smoke Box with my BBQ snob's nose held high.

[BBMarley]

Before anyone flames me or thinks this is race baiting? Trust me, this is a legit question. I have spent the last two weeks reserching this very topic.
And I have yet to find in any history books on how the Blacks became the best Bar BQ makers on the planet. How did they get so good at it? I have yet to see a picture of some black man in Africa with a webber.

Can anyone toss some light on this subject? why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

Practice... lots & lots of practice


Sorry- so so wrong- but I couldn't resist.

[M2]

Before anyone flames me or thinks this is race baiting? Trust me, this is a legit question. I have spent the last two weeks reserching this very topic.
And I have yet to find in any history books on how the Blacks became the best Bar BQ makers on the planet. How did they get so good at it? I have yet to see a picture of some black man in Africa with a webber.

Can anyone toss some light on this subject? why are black folks so good at making BBQ?

Practice... lots & lots of practice


Sorry- so so wrong- but I couldn't resist.

Not funny... of course, I also find beheadings not to be funny, so go figure.

This should have been expected... since the author of this post also enjoys tv shows about grown men and trying to abuse little kids.

Fuckin' idiot

[BBMarley]

since the author of this post also enjoys tv shows about grown men and trying to abuse little kids.

More fantastic use of the English language from the "Cal" graduate. I understand you're upset about your fellow NAMBLA members getting locked up- but you'll make more friends.

[M2]

I like little girls... why else would I watch a show about pedophiles.

[BBMarley]

Yeah- that's it... all 10-15 of us that watched it and posted in that thread are Ped's.. Yeah. OR- there are those of us who are disgusted with the state of our world today and like watching the bad people finally get caught.

[Truman]

It's not a "smokebox", and you obviously didn't go there.

It's called Smoke House BBQ, and that is the fucking BOMB of all BBQ ...period.

Please refrain from ever commenting on BBQ.

wags, you and i seem to butt heads a lot but we agree on this. lk has no clue. if you're going to go to smokeHOUSE, go to the one in gladstone.

RACK e AND Wags.

Best BBQ in KC (in order):

1. SmokeHouse BBQ- the Gladstone location is SLIGHTLY better than the Indep. crib.
2. Summit Hickory Pit BBQ- a CLOSE 2nd to Smokehouse.
3. Fiorella's JackStack BBQ- had it about a week ago down at the Frieghthouse. Pretty goddamn good.
4. Bryant's- enough said.
5. LC's- a hole in the wall joint down in the 'hood, but the slabs are to DIE for.

While we're on the subject....anything referred to as "Barbeque" outside of Kansas City just ISN'T, OK? WE are Tha Shizzle when it comes to REAL barbeque, PERIOD. Anything else is total HORSESHIT.

Bwa.

Missed "Truman's deck" som'eres on that list... Friends and fam'bly didn't gloss me "Iron Chef Barbecue" for nuthin....

Honerable Mention (in no particular order):

Bryants - 18th & Brooklyn
Gates - Anywhere
Oklahoma Joes - 47th & Mission
Sneads - MO 58 & Holmes
Zarda - Blue Springs
Wyandotte - Anywherae

lk_pick: Screw Heywards. Good barbecue really doesn't translate all that well to Johnson County suburban white-folk who really don't know any better...

Wags: Hit the Smoke House off 39th in Methdependence several years back. Sorely disappointed. Gonna have to accept your say-so on the Northland location. Marty's at Vivion and Antioch was always a fav 'fore they went south....

Dammit, Paulie, do I need to invite you over? Summit Hickory Pit?! Fiorellas?! Sweet Christ! Summit is adequate at best, and Fiorella's is over-priced and w-a-y over-rated.

I ain't black. And I can out-barbecue any mvscal on the planet.

[War Wagon]

Ok, I did neglect to mention the Tru and Scotty tailgate as being Top 5...not to mention the company and libations.

Trust me, bro...the original Smoke House on North Oak in Happy Rock is the real deal. They've tried to expand, dunno', but maybe it doesn't translate that well. Never been to the others...so I can't say.

Suffice to say, should you invite me over to your deck, I'll be there.

[ADAM]

Someone PM me the recipe.........