apologies to board: Sooners

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 07, 2006 2:57 pm

with all the insider hoo-haw and expert hoops ciphers and opinion at OUinsider...they all know the "real" scoop, inside fact over popular opinion.......a post that asks a simple, timely, and factual to the point question: nets zero replies in over 200 viewings. where are the posters who are otherwise "inside the program"? and have "sources". and post about it constantly.

http://mb22.scout.com/fouinsiderfrm2.sh ... 9035.topic

yes, I am sanguinetti.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Sun May 07, 2006 4:58 pm

KC, I gave up on that insider shit a while ago. Decided to just wait things out and not speculate too much, it is not worth the worry, besides who cares if you find out something hours before anyone else, it does not mean you are more or less of a fan.

Usually if you know the local media and their bullshit you can get a feel of what is going on and what is going to happen, they know less and less now days and seem to be used as puppets to misdirect attention.

This is my feel on the OU basketball program. We are in deep shit at this point with the lack of scholarshiped players OU is going to struggle in the big 12.

Fuck all the Sampson haters and fuck all the Sampson lovers, that time is gone, we have a situation and the true fans will stick with it win or lose.

I am not saying that Capel cant win, he should at least be able to go .500 overall for the first two years, I am not going to put a ton of expectations on him, he is coming into a bad situation.

At this point I have no reason to doubt Joe Castiglione, he has been solid with all of his hires, but no one is perfect.

I love OU basketball and will always be a fan, fuck the inside shit. It is much more important to me to just be fan of the program, I don't have to get the scoop before anyone else does.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun May 07, 2006 5:35 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Answer:

He was scheduled to. I cannot tell you for sure if he did.

I am sorry.

Ditto

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 07, 2006 5:49 pm

it's less the actual answer that interests me--it;s just with all the sound and fury that the "bigtime" scout posters think of themselves.....that an actual question as simple as that goes utterly unswered.

they all know someone who saw Crocker in high school and we haven't seen the real new JUCO Capel is in on since so an so's cousin saw him beat MJ in jr.high...etc. yet, somehow, the most obvious question of the weekend passes like a silent fart with no smell.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 07, 2006 11:57 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:He hasn't received permission to visit other schools, so he did not take an official visit this weekend. Hale says nothing was planned this weekend.

I'd be OK with the class if we can end up with Marvin Kilgore, Hernol Hall, Keith Clark, and Tony Crocker. Save one scholarship for next year's class (and barring a complete meltdown, I think next year's class is going to be really good) and we should be OK.

i don't know enough about Kilgore to have an opinion on him--though his terrible FT% is scary.....him and Longar on the floor in the last 5 minutes of a close game would be a disaster waiting to happen....and certainly a stratagery move to foul from opposing coaches.

Clark qualifying is the key. if Crocker is the player people say, he and Clark make for a solid enough class and Hall would be a bonus. i'm not real sure about this big kid from Houston people are drooling over....last thing we need is another big stiff....if we going to be running motion O. but i guess this assistant Cline is a working with the big man guy.

agree: i'd rather go 12-18 this year and not burn a schollie on some mid-level JUCO just to fill the bench. i think there's a lot of upside to Capel and i'm willing to ride out the bad times as long as we play with effort and appear to be developing and improving. i also don't think getting Blake Griffin is the slam dunk that Insiderites seem to be pre-supposing. kid is getting offers that are hard to turn down.

hell, i was AT the game that Tubbs lost to division III Ohio Northern. losing to the Polar Bears of ONU at home......were it to exist, just TRY and imagine Insider (or even the basketball vacuum at sf.com) after that...

http://soonerstats.com/bb/seasons/sched ... sonID=1981

12/23/81

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:04 pm

what's up with the insider people thinking that Clark is going to get flagged by the NCAA for his ACT score?

when i took the GRE for grad school, i bought an algebra primer and worked through it since i hadn't taken any math classes since Calculus II my fresh. year. had i not done that i would have scored significantly less than i did. it's a plausible scenario that someone could test once....and then buy a primer and then test again with a higher score...but that seems kinda harsh to flag kids for re-test if they jump 4 points or more on the ACT.

things can happen as with my example....where a person prepares better for the test especially if motivated to qualify to play D-1 ball. it's not like Sean Sutton took the test for him.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:36 pm

would Maze be for this year or next? starting to look like Tony Crocker is the bitchinest dude on planet Earth.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:50 pm

offer him right now. forget Kilgore.

holy cats! seal the deal with Hall and this kid, Clark qualifies, and Capel done more than awwright for himself.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu May 11, 2006 1:37 pm

it's about a quarter mile from my Mom's house and across the street from one of my high school buds.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Thu May 11, 2006 3:51 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:That's cool.

It amazes me how much 2/3 of a million will buy in Oklahoma. You couldn't buy half that house for $667k in Anchorage.

2/3 of million out here is a shack in Crestview. :?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu May 11, 2006 4:29 pm

my mom's place is much smaller than that, but ditto Denver/Boulder.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Fri May 12, 2006 9:41 pm

Re: "Insider Sources."

I probably have better "insider sources" than 99% of the ouinsider.com board, but whenever I post on that board, I get widely ignored too. The most responses I've ever gotten is when I ripped BBJ a new one, then he actually signed up for the board to defend himself. He and I e-mailed back and forth for a while, and now I really like the guy...

Took balls to do what he did. [Team America] I like balls. [/Team America]

the_ouskull

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 14, 2006 12:46 am

fer real.....?

edit: never mind, it's up on the insiders homepage. funny though, there was a sticky for about 10 minutes on the plebe board saying "do not post or hint at premium info on this board". now it's gone.

that's a great get for Capel. i was not that optimistic that Blake would be a Sooner....in the long run, to be perfectly honest. too many offers to which you just don't say no.

Ang · Post by **Ang** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:50 am

When I went to see my parents today, my dad (who is a huge OU basketball fan) was saying that he heard some talk that one of the "built in advantages" as you say for getting Blake Griffin was that as soon as Tommy Griffin gets his kids through OCS he will go on as an assistant coach at OU.

Now my dad is a old horse trading guy, so loving rumors sort of goes with that territory. You think there is any basis for this one?

Even though I'm not an OU fan, this will be a nice local story for us to follow here. My kid is going to OCS for high school next year, and while he's a baseball guy instead of basketball it will be something we will follow. I welcome anything that will keep my mind off the current debacle of the Oklahoma State program :).

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 15, 2006 3:42 pm

i don't want to push you ethically, but is Kermit Holmes the not Rod Barnes one?

my dad used to play in OKC and Norman pick up games and city leagues against T. Griffin, says he was a pretty bad dude. good guy, heckuva player.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:03 pm

plus, Kermit is an Oklahoma kid...from Okmulgee, America. I guess he and Capel played against each other in the CBA.

and he was bumping the chick from salt 'n pepa.

obviously a lot is up in the air with Clark and Crocker (not qualified? i keep seeing that), Maze, Kilgore, and Hall....but i'm pretty impressed with the way Capel has proceeded. listening to him he's pretty shrewd and very political about saying all the right things. though, he'll learn not to list Malcom X as a hero once he's been in OK for a bit. :wink:

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon May 15, 2006 7:05 pm

i was never real excited by Kilgore. i don't think Malcom X is a bad choice, but being one of them "uppity" types ain't flying too high with Bobby Earl in Bugtussle, OK.

i've been reading some/a lot of the VCU recaps from last year at CBS.sportsline and Capel's teams had some really favorable traits. even games they lost, they outscored their opponents in the second half.

and you see phrases like "furious VCU rally" a lot. i don't know what it means in the long run, but it's kind of fun as a fan in the deadtime of the summer. but, they were real bad from the stripe. blew a 17 point lead against George Mason, additionally.

in the Colonial, Hofstra was the three headed monster....they destroyed Nebraska in the NIT and beat Mason twice.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:11 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Bobby Maze called the OU staff on the way to the airport after his official visit and committed today.

Lock down Hernol Hall and let's shut it down for the year and save that last scholly for next year.

agree 100%. I saw a list of Hall's interest/those interested and Ohio State kind of worried me....but if he's a JUCO and wants to play....i gotta think OU is the place. Georgia? meh. Charlotte? I like Bobby Lutz as a coach but still how many times are they on TV and 5th fiddle in N. Carolina?

got to think B. Griffin's verbal has really legitimated Capel in some people's eyes. and created some excitement about the future. now, got to get it done on the basketball floor.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Fri May 19, 2006 10:55 pm

King Crimson wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Bobby Maze called the OU staff on the way to the airport after his official visit and committed today.

Lock down Hernol Hall and let's shut it down for the year and save that last scholly for next year.

agree 100%. I saw a list of Hall's interest/those interested and Ohio State kind of worried me....but if he's a JUCO and wants to play....i gotta think OU is the place. Georgia? meh. Charlotte? I like Bobby Lutz as a coach but still how many times are they on TV and 5th fiddle in N. Carolina?

got to think B. Griffin's verbal has really legitimated Capel in some people's eyes. and created some excitement about the future. now, got to get it done on the basketball floor.

Charlotte isn't even fifth fiddle in North Cackalacky; at best sixth: UNC, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Duke, East Carolina, heck some might even say, depending on where in the state you are, that UNC-Willimington is more of a draw than Charlotte.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sat May 20, 2006 9:31 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Tyler Hardrick, 6'9" C from Lawton Ike committed today. His doctors tell him he has a couple more inches of growth.

Relax, he's a 2009 recruit. ;)

Sheesh, they're committing young these days.

Is this serious or pun?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:40 am

was he offered?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:16 am

King Crimson wrote:was he offered?

Better not have been. It's against the rules to offer freshman.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:01 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:John Roberson, a 5'11" point out of Plano High also visited this weekend. Roberson led Plano to the 5A state title averaging 18 points 7.5 assists 4 boards.

Roberson said that he is now a heavy OU lean and the only thing keeping him from committing is that his mother hasn't seen the OU campus yet-he visited with his coach this weekend.

He LOVES Capel and is excited that Capel played the same position as him.

What class is Roberson?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:17 pm

Our 2007 class is shaping up pretty damn nicely already.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:56 pm

just keep Ms. Roberson north of Lindsey on campus and in the new practice facilities and everything should be awwright. ;)

at this point, you just have to be impressed with the *immediate* results Capel is getting.

sure, he's never coached a Sooner game....but still. getting Hall would be the final nail.

i still think we're a NIT team next year, but I'm OK with that.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:55 pm

I see that the latest rumor is that Adron Tennell is going to play both football and basketball at OU now.