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OTTAWA—Taxpayers may be in for a pleasant surprise in Prime Minister Stephen Harper's first budget tomorrow.

But environmentalists and aboriginal people are expected to be disappointed.

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty will introduce a promised reduction in the goods and services tax (GST) and the budget is likely to contain personal income tax measures that will be welcome news for middle-class earners, who could save several hundred dollars a year in income taxes as a result of his policies.

But there are strong indications the government will refuse to fund the 10-year, $5.1 billion federal-provincial deal to help aboriginal people worked out by the former Liberal government in Kelowna, B.C., last year.

And the budget is expected to abandon the Liberals' $10 billion commitment to implement the Kyoto accord meant to spur concerted international action to reduce the greenhouse gases that cause climate change.

Conservative insiders have let it be known privately that the money to pay for the Kelowna and Kyoto accords had not been set aside as expected in the books left behind by the former government. That is said to have greatly complicated Flaherty's efforts to begin fulfilling the combined $75 billion in tax cuts and spending increases promised by Harper without pushing Ottawa back into an unwanted budget deficit. The budget, which will give Canadians a clear indication how Harper intends to govern, is also expected to feature $320 million in additional foreign aid spending, more than $100 million in anti-crime measures and hefty new funds for the military (the Conservatives promised $5 billion extra for defence over five years during the election campaign).

In keeping with Harper's vow to press on with his main priorities, the budget is certain to deliver on the campaign promise to reduce the GST to 6 per cent from 7 per cent, a move that would save an average family a few hundred dollars a year. This reduction is likely to go into effect on July 1. It would drop another percentage point next year.

But the big question is whether Flaherty will dig into Canadians' pay packets to make up for the $5 billion a year the GST cut will cost Ottawa.

During the campaign, Harper said that, to afford the GST reduction, he would rescind income tax cuts introduced (but not yet implemented) by the Liberals in November.

If the Conservative government were to go ahead with rescinding those cuts, it would mean an increase in personal income tax that would on average reduce individuals' take-home pay by several hundred dollars a year — in effect cancelling out the savings Canadians will reap from a lower GST.

However, Flaherty has confirmed that the government has been looking seriously at ways to avoid saddling taxpayers with higher personal income tax payments. This might mean letting all, or part, of the Liberal tax reductions stand or introducing other measures to keep income taxes from rising.

"We'll do what we can, reasonably, this year," Flaherty said recently when asked about tax cuts. "We're looking at all the tax policies."

The Conservatives have staked considerable credibility on drafting a budget that will leave Canadians smiling.

"Let me assure this House," Harper said last month, "that when ... we introduce (the GST reduction) and other taxation measures, every single Canadian household in this country will be better off."

Instead of the tax reductions introduced by the Liberals in November, Flaherty might bring in his own package with cuts aimed primarily at middle-income earners, sources say.

The finance minister will make a pre-budget appearance this morning in Whitby, where he and children from Sir William Stephenson Public School will plant a maple tree. Flaherty will be back in Toronto on Friday to sell his budget to Bay Street during a luncheon address to a business audience.

In addition to tax measures, the government is certain to bring in its child-care allowance, which will provide $1,200 in pre-tax funds for every child under 6. It will replace the $5 billion arrangement the Liberals made with the provinces to build a national child-care program. Harper has said federal funding for that program will end next spring. But the steady political rumbling over the Tories' approach to child care is only likely to gather force after the budget.

For one thing, opposition MPs and taxpayers' advocates are likely to cry foul if Flaherty tries to count the child allowance payments as a tax cut when the Tories tote up whether Canadians are better off under their budget policies. Only parents with children under 6 will benefit from the child allowance.

There have also been suggestions from social policy groups that, because of the way the tax system works and because of provincial "clawbacks" of federal payments, well-off families with a stay-at-home spouse will capture most of the $1,200 a year in child allowance while low-income families with two earners will receive only a few hundred dollars. Beyond that, the Liberals, NDP and Bloc Québécois are demanding the government commit to long-term funding to ensure the child-care facilities that would have been created as a result of the previous government's deals with the provinces are eventually built. "I think they have to listen to the will of a majority of Parliament and Canadians about the child-care issue," NDP House Leader Libby Davies said.

"Their proposal so far is very narrow. They really have not shown us that they are actually prepared to produce real child-care spaces for Canadian families that really need it."

The budget is also expected to include:

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A major push to rein in government spending on a wide range of social, economic, cultural and environmental programs. "One of our major commitments was to restrain the rate of spending growth in government and we intend to keep that commitment," Flaherty said recently. The Conservatives aim to moderate spending by $22.5 billion over five years.

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$3.3 billion in new funds for the provinces from last year's federal budget surplus — to be used in future years to finance post-secondary education, affordable housing, public transit, northern housing and other priorities.

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A transit pass tax credit that will cost Ottawa $2 billion over five years.

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Reductions in corporate taxes ($900 million over five years as promised in the Conservative campaign) and small business taxes ($1.8 billion over five years).

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Elimination of capital gains tax on donations of listed stocks to charitable institutions, likely to cost $50 million annually in forgone revenue.

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Various tax breaks for seniors, parents with children in sports programs, students buying textbooks, businesses creating apprenticeships and workers buying tools.

One of the promises that is believed to have won over a fair chunk of high-income voters to the Conservative brand in the election — a $750 million-a-year break on capital gains paid on profits from stocks — will not be affordable in this budget, according to Flaherty. Harper's government, with only 125 seats in the 308-member House of Commons, risks defeat over the budget, which is always considered a matter of confidence when MPs vote on it. The Liberals have 102 seats, the NDP 29, the Bloc 51 and there is one Independent.

Defeating the Conservatives, however, is unlikely, given that no one wants another election right away. But the Liberals insist they will not be responsible for guaranteeing the Conservatives stay afloat as the budget makes its way through Parliament.

"I cannot pronounce to you today how the Liberals will vote on the budget when we haven't seen the budget. But I am saying that what I've heard so far doesn't inspire great optimism," Liberal finance critic John McCallum said.

"It's not our role to prop up the government. It's the NDP and the Bloc who precipitated this early election. We're going to express our own views in a clear way and we'll leave it principally up to the NDP and the Bloc to support the government. If there's an election, we'll go to an election."

But environmentalists and aboriginal people are expected to be disappointed.
And lets not forget the screeching Liberals, and their s_s media. :lol:


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But the big question is whether Flaherty will dig into Canadians' pay packets to make up for the $5 billion a year the GST cut will cost Ottawa.

During the campaign, Harper said that, to afford the GST reduction, he would rescind income tax cuts introduced (but not yet implemented) by the Liberals in November.

If the Conservative government were to go ahead with rescinding those cuts, it would mean an increase in personal income tax that would on average reduce individuals' take-home pay by several hundred dollars a year — in effect cancelling out the savings Canadians will reap from a lower GST.
That my Hypocrite loving friend is what we call the Hypocrites being snookered.

Either Harpocrite acknowledges that the Liberal tax cuts were a good thing and keeps them in his budget or it's going to be real ugly for him when he's labelled as a tax raiser...

Why does Dictator Haropocrite hate the First Nations and Inuit?
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Harper ignoring Libby Pipe Dreams.

Otis, The Alliance rule this country now and you need to accept that fact.
Harper will do what he thinks is best for New Canada, not what your self-serving tards thought was best for them to get their worthless corrupt asses re-elected.


'Bode Harper for Tick Tocking his way towards a majority. :)
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Tax Cut's in 29 different governmental revenue producing areas.

That's got to be a record.
On behalf of New Canada, and the envious opposition, may I be the first here to RACK Harper.

CBC reported that Martin was so impressed with
Harps first budget that he was going to vote Alliance from now on. :)
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• Income taxes to increase to 15.25% this year and 15.5% in 07’

Nothing for seniors...
Nothing for aboriginals...
Nothing for the environment...
Nothing to help lower Gas Taxes
In August, 2005, then-Opposition leader Stephen Harper blasted the Liberal government for refusing to reduce gas taxes as prices soared. “There is no reason for the federal government to profiteer when consumers are hurting,” he said urging the previous Liberal government to give motorists a break. “This is causing considerable dislocation. There are a lot of people on fixed incomes. There are a lot of businesses on thin margins that are going to be affected by this.”

“The price of gasoline has skyrocketed. Last week the national average price was over $1.00 per litre,” noted Williamson. “Despite the Prime Minister’s promises to reduce gas taxes, there is nothing in the budget to accomplish this goal. This is a disappointment.”

But the seperatists are going to support it which means that Dictator Harper gets his budget passed thanks to the party that wants to fuck Canada over.. How fitting.. tards helping tards... :roll:
It figures a fucking idiot like you Tina would think it's a good budget.

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Otis Wrote:
But the seperatists are going to support it which means that Dictator Harper gets his budget passed
Good for them.
'Bode Harp's great diplomatic skills paying off so soon.
Otis Screeches Again
Oh well, at least the majority of Canadians are pleased. :)
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tough love wrote:
Otis Wrote:
But the seperatists are going to support it which means that Dictator Harper gets his budget passed
Good for them.
'Bode Harp's great diplomatic skills paying off so soon.
Ya, bode the two parties that want to fuck Canada over...

:roll:



Oh well, at least the majority of Canadians are pleased. :)
Don't count on it moron..

PS. I see you're still too chickenshit to debate this over Here
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QuoteMe:
Oh well, at least the majority of Canadians are pleased. Smile

Quote You:
Don't count on it moron..
Perhaps I was getting the feedback from the wrong three national networks. :meds:


Debate Here?

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:roll:

Perhaps you need to get your head out of your ass dumbfuck and read what average CANADIANS are saying....
Your letters:


This is a wonderful budget!

The increase in from 15% to 15.5% for lowest tax bracket should get the working poor working harder. Not!

The $100/month should empower me to create a daycare space. Not!

The tax credits should stimulate the already over-stimulated economy what with the Bank of Canada raising interest rates to cool it down.

While we may be saving taxes, when did we abandon prudent debt reduction. With only $600 million in surplus one small glitch (disaster, change in market) will wipe out this modest surplus. It's like having very low saving account. Rediculous.

What planet are these guys from?

—Stephen Louie | Calgary

I can't understand how people can applaud (imaginary) tax cuts, while deploring the long wait times at hospitals and high cost of education and child care. The quality of life issues (health, education, environment) can't be maintained with less money - they aren't being maintained now. Why didn't the government take some of the money raised by the 1% GST they're cutting out and put it toward something beneficial for Canadians. Lower and middle income Canadians making under $60,000 per year aren't going to see much from the GST cut, and services are declining everywhere.

—Elizabeth Griffiths | Trenton, Ont.

Your commentators keep saying that there is something for everyone, implying that we all will be better off. The examples given are always people with children, where there are financial benefits, ignoring the fact that seniors, empty nesters and others on fixed incomes will feel the brunt of this budget. The reduction in the GST will not offset the additional 0.5% tax increase and rollback of the basic personal exemption. We have little disposable income as it is and we will have less as the dollar increases in value and interest rates rise. So the seniors have been screwed again!

—Gordon Van Fleet | Thunder Bay, Ont.



Spend the surplus the Liberals left them. Tax the poor. Con the middle class into thinking they get a break. Cut the child care program and replace it with a taxable payment. Hand a billion dollars to the Americans. Sounds like the bloody Conservatives again.

—Brent Caughy | Delta, B.C.

My wife and I are seniors living on a non-indexed pension for 14 years and receiving OAS. Our income is way below this $60,000 used as an example for our tax savings. We will gain nothing except a .5% increase in our income tax. The 1% change in the GST will be of little advantage as we have very little money to spent except on essentials. But for those who are not retired it seems to be a good budget.

—G Foggo

This GST cut will result in more pain and no gain for business. It would be a better move to direct this support to young families getting started with their first mortgage. Or help with their student loans. Most are coming out of university now finding themselves with their first job and not enough income to cover their bills and will have to live in poverty for years before they see the light.

—David Power | Whitehorse

The Conservatives made several references to how this budget will help every-day Canadians. I do not see how this is possible when we are all affected by environmental degradation and the impeding danger of global warming. What good is a tax break if it means our long-term health is not protected? We are shooting ourselves in the foot by only looking 5 or 10 years ahead. I am very disappointed that the environment was so criminally neglected.

—Dara daCosta | Montreal

Sure, as promised the Conservatives delivered - they call it a universal child care benefit. It's universal all right and this is positive.

But try as they will, you can't fool all of us working mothers who want and need an affordable quality child care space that this is a giant leap forward for womankind and families.

It's an allowance, it's pin money, BUT it sure as heck is 100% NOT the universal child care plan that will meet the needs of us working mothers and gives our young children the start they need and deserve. It's anything but that!

—Dianne Goldberg | Halfmoon Bay, B.C.

This budget was supposed to be a tax releif budget yet the lowest tax bracket will have a tax increase. This kind of reminds me of the Harris government that was tossed out of Ontario, but then again the finance minister was one of Harris' cronies so it shouldn't surprize me. Harris and his ilk made the poorest people of Ontario poorer while the rich received tax breaks and the same thing has happened in todays budget.

Disgusting is all I can say ... letting the rich get richer on the backs of the poorest. It won't be long before Harper is tossed out on his (money padded) ass.

—Dave Munro | Barrie, Ont.

They cut GST by 1%, but paid for it by increasing income tax from 15% to 15.5%. This just doesn't help Canadians.

The tax credit is nice, but it would be simpler to just increase the basic personal exemption. Complications just cost more for administration. If our tax dollars fund salaries for tax collectors, it doesn't help us.

The child-care benefit will not be noticed by those able to pay for it themselves, but isn't enough to fund child-care for those who need help. It's just another administration exercise, justifying civil servants' salaries rather than helping taxpayers.

Young people often complain about apprenticeship programs. Employers just hire apprentices at reduced salary instead of regular full-time employees at full salary. When the apprenticeship period is over, the employer lets that person go and starts again with a new apprentice, permanently taking away a job that was filled permanently by a recent graduate. What young people need are co-op programs, summer jobs while still in school. Once they graduate, they need regular jobs at full salary.

Eliminating federal capital tax is also nice, but that was scheduled anyway. They're just trying to take credit for it.

Most important is that increase in income tax. Increasing income tax to pay for the GST cut is just shuffling taxes. This does not "deliver real tax relief for Canadians."

—Robert Dyck | Winnipeg

Hooray for tax increases dressed as tax cuts. The chocolate ration has increased. While people cheer for the GST cut, I wonder how many will notice that nullifying the Liberal's tax cut on the first $36,400 results in a net tax hike for most people. Unless you spend $10,000+ on consumer goods in a year. Raising the basic personal amount offsets that a little bit but ultimately, it's taking away tax cuts under the guise of tax cuts.

—Charles Randall


The budget that has been delayed is out and frankly I'd wish Mr Harper was out the door. This budget takes our surplus from billions of dollars down to $600 million with no appreciative gain in spending for health, education, or welfare.

The taxable stipend of $100 a month for daycare helps only the rich, while adding no relief to the low income wage earner. Even his own economic think-tanks call it a bad program, but here it is, about to become a reality.

Increased prosecutors only shows that this government is taking the road well-travelled by the United States when dealing with crime. Put 'em in jail and let someone else worry about it when they are long gone from the political scene. Instead of increased prosecutors, we need more programs to help make useful citizens from the criminals, not make more criminals.

—Ian Kovnats | Victoria


I am an automobile dealer. Why has the finance minister left a 60-day gap before the GST reduction is implemented? Customers will put off big-ticket purchases until July. This will have a major effect on my business. Either I will have to make up the 1% difference out of my pocket or wait for customers to purchase their vehicles in July. Neither of these situations is acceptable.

I thought a Prime Minister who is also an Economist would understand the effect of such decisions.

—Christopher J. Megaffin | Halifax

The Conservative government has created the Family Fitness Tax Benifit to help families who want their children enrolled in sports, music lessons, orchestral/band/choir programs, dance and art classes, as well as many other artistic types of activities are just as expensive as sports however no tax benifits have been given to those Canadians who want their children enrolled in the arts.

Why is the government not encouraging Canadians to register their children in the arts in the same way they are encouraging them to register them in sports?

—S. Heffel

I am beyond angry that the Reform/Conservative government has raised taxes on the those least likely to be able to afford them. I can hear them now, "Well it will be offset by the cut in the GST. Oh wait a moment, the poor pay very little GST as most of their money goes to food and rent which have no GST. Our bad!"

—Caprice Barbour | Vancouver

When I review the amount of tax I pay, what have they given me - nothing, absolutely nothing. Well, that is not quite true. They gave me the usual political hype before the election and the usual let down after the election

—Alan Hill

I am absolutely appalled that this government has followed through on their decision to give parents $1,200 per year (or $100/month) towards child-care costs. In this town, there are currently not enough child-care spots, and if you can get a spot, you require close to $700/month to provide daycare to your child. The $100 is a joke!

They are giving this money to parents who aren't even requiring child care for their children, therefore they get to pocket the money, whereas my goes to my child-care provider. Why is that fair? The issue is lack of affordable daycare. Spaces need to be provided to all parents for their child(ren) at an affordable rate that doesn't push young families to a point of having to claiming bankruptcy due to the current high prices.

—April Medwechuk | Kenora, Ont.

This tax cut will be an insignificant short term tax relief for Canadians. What I mean by that is that the impact on the individual taxpayer will be virtually unnoticeable, and will just hurt us in sustaining long term economic growth. To remain one of the wealthiest and prosperous countries in the world, we have to pay a price and that comes in the form of taxes! With the increasing global competition, we have to remain wealthy and that is not done by spending more, saving less and not reducing existing dept !

—Stephan Collinge | Toronto

I live in Truro, N.S., where there is no public transit like in most rural areas. Everywhere I go I have to take my car, whether I want to or not. What allowance can I get?

—Ruth Pfister | Truro, N.S.


Is Harper not aware that people will be delaying large purchases (homes, cars) until July 1 to take advantage of the reduction in the GST?

—Martin Gladu | Toronto



Going from 15% to 15.5% sounds like an increase to me. As for raising personal deductions, he did not say how much or when. I have no kids in sports, I have no need to ride public transit and I'm too old to take advantage of the fitness credit. What is in it for me? NOT MUCH

—Frank Kientz | Sarnia, Ont.

There is virtually nothing for aboriginal Canadians in this budget. The Kelowna Accord was a critical step by the previous federal government in righting the wrongs of Canada's relations with the country's founding people. If no amendment or deal is struck with the other parties to ensure that this deal is honoured, the Conservative party will only mirror the former Reform/Canadian Alliance, with their radical views on sensitive issues, not to mention the radical and discriminatory opinions of Tom Flanagan, who most likely works at the PMO.

—Ryan Francis | Wolfville, N.S.



How come Mr. Harper has raised the minimum tax rate from 15% to 15.5%? This is like taking from one to give to the other. The net effect is more people who are less poor. I think Mr. Harper would have been well advised to heed the columnists, economists and several other financial gurus who have been hinting how the vision in economics is for political benefits and geared towards winning the next election rather than what is good for the country and all of us in the long run.

Mr. Harper, please drop the next cut in GST in favour of a drop in the minimum tax rate. I believe, Mr. Harper is an economist and he would reap benefits (in the next election) if he keeps himself from blurring the national interest in favour of political winnings.

—Kayum Basith

The Conservatives have done nothing more than provide lip service to the real issues that Canadians face, issues such as increased student debt loads. The reality of the 21 century is that the Canadian economy's strength in the future will be in research and development. Clearly these people have no idea what life is really like for Canadians. I have had my fill of these people, and have contacted my MP and demanded that he not support this budget.

—Karsten Henriksen | Vancouver

Cutting the GST is a bad idea. Consumption should be taxed. The billions of dollars lost on the GST cut should have gone into individual income tax cuts.

—Gary Wilkins | Chateauguay, Que.


I have mixed feelings about tax cuts. Nobody likes paying taxes, yet we all love what taxes pay for (health care, national parks, pensions, etc). So if taxes get cut, what beneficial programs will start being cut and/or underfunded? Instead of a tax cut, I would be happier to know that the government is using my tax dollars wisely, on things that really benefit all Canadians. Instead, the much vaunted "money in our pockets" that these tax cuts promise is probably going to be spent at some big, American-owned chain store.

—Michael Chevalier | Edmonton

The only thing that I see in this budget is that myself and my fiancé will be paying an extra 0.5% income tax to pay for Harper's promise to cut the GST. This doesn't sound like a fair trade to me!

—Blair Power

I see nothing that promotes energy conservation or incentives for the deployment of individual/small business renewable energy systems in the budget.

—David M. Cvet | Toronto

This government is giving a lot of tax breaks to a wide segment of the population!

I did not see anything that might benefit the average senior citizen! I'm very disappointed in this budget and in my case, it is not a vote getter!

—Réal and Camilla Forget


Here is where tough love shows he's a spineless pussy..
tough love wrote:
JaysFan wrote:PS. I see you're still too chickenshit to debate this over Here
Debate Here?

Okay
Here is where Harper rules his way to a majority
Here is where Otis beats his head against a brick wall


Your turn
So you're a spineless pussy that's too afraid to take his opinions into a forum with other Canadians then?

Gotcha.
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Otis;
If a poli_tard came along who would make EVERYBODY happy, and it wasn't a new spiritual dispensation for the sorry state of mankind, I would be very concerned.
Just because you pull a handful of self-serving individual comments outta your meaningless disgruntled libby ass club, adds up to nothing when it comes to how well recieved Harpers first budget is being louted by millions and millions of folk who didn't, but will vote Alliance next time around.

Basically; Harps well balanced budget has managed to remove a whole lot of voter apprehension created by your lying libtards.

If I were you, I would be upset as well. :wink:

So you're a spineless pussy that's too afraid to take his opinions into a forum with other Canadians then?

Gotcha.
So THAT"S where your desperation leads to.
I thought it might of been a hack trap or something of that nature.
Face it Bro, you are a vindictive person with comp skills who has been coming across as a tad unstable lately.

Anywho; I have never been accused of not posting on a m_board out of fear before, so props to you, I guess.

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Me think's that Harper is going to have to create a new department just to handle all the RACKS he's receiving from a gratefully relieved and jubilant public.

Minister of RACKS...I like it. :)
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You're too afraid to click on a link and you're calling me unstable? :lol:

Paranoid much Tina?


But don't let me stop you from your delusions of grandeur for your Hypocrites...

Fact is, the Average Joe didn't think the budget was a good one.
Wed, May 3, 2006

Average Joes lose

By GREG WESTON




If you are a self-employed handyman buying a new house for your stay-at-home wife, two kids in diapers and another in soccer, Stephen Harper's first budget is certain to put a smile on your face and a few grand in your pocket from lower taxes.

On the other hand, if you happen to be like the vast majority of Canadian taxpayers with a salaried job, normal spending habits and no pre-school children, the Conservative government's grand fiscal plan for the nation isn't going to buy you a beer to cry in.

Our accountants calculate that a single worker earning $40,000 a year, for instance, will save about $200 in income tax and GST this year, or roughly 55c a day. That's better than the 38c a week Paul Martin gave the Average Joe in the last full Liberal budget a year ago, but hardly the tax windfall many Conservative voters may have come to expect.

Welcome to the Harper government's world of "targeted fiscal measures," a budget packed with a hodge-podge of tax breaks designed to benefit specific groups of Canadians -- parents of pre-schoolers, soccer moms, new home buyers, tradespeople with tools, and so on down a long list.

What all these lucky recipients of federal largesse have in common is they were targeted in the last election as potential Conservative supporters whose votes could be bought with promises of tax cuts and other government goodies.

Yesterday, the Conservatives delivered on several dozen of those election pledges in a convoluted fiscal plan which, as expected, is far better retail politics than national economics.

While the budget doles out something for just about everyone middle-class and Conservative, there is scant mention of how the Harper government intends to hone the economy to confront issues such as the rising dollar, higher interest rates, and the growing competitive onslaught of China and India.

Maybe another day. For a PM who is supposed to be an economist, Harper's first budget also contains some rather yawning holes.

Balancing the books, for instance, will require the government to find at least $2 billion of "savings" over the next two years, but there is no indication where the Conservatives plan to cut services. Similarly, the Tories are promising to throw more criminals in jail for longer terms, a nice idea with a potentially huge price tag.

Yet the budget merely commits the Harper government to "set aside funds to expand correctional facilities." Numbers to follow.

Finally, Harper's first major piece of fiscal handiwork contains some glaring fibs, the worst being that the government is reducing income taxes that it is actually increasing.

No matter. Politically, the aim of the budget is clear: If Harper's minority government were forced into an election before its next budget in 2007, the Conservatives could at least claim they kept most of their big promises from the last campaign.

First and foremost, the widely unpopular GST will be cut from 7% to 6%, starting on Canada Day.

While the move will siphon a whopping $3.5 billion from the public purse, like most of the budget measures, the GST cut won't exactly put a new Mercedes in every driveway.

A typical family of four earning $60,000 a year, for instance, will save an estimated $275 a year from the GST reduction -- something around $5 a week.

The biggest impact will be on families in line for the Universal Child Care Benefit of $1,200 a year for each child under six. Since the monthly cheques of $100 per tot will be taxable in the hands of the parent with the lowest income, Harper is about to become a very popular guy with the nation's stay-at-home moms, who will get to keep virtually all of the cash.

If there is a single notable disappointment in the Harper budget, it is that the Conservatives chickened out on general income tax cuts.

Instead, on July 1, the government will raise the lowest income tax rate a half-point, adding about $180 to the average tax bill this year. The increase will be only partially offset this year with a new "Employment Credit" worth a whole $38.

Too bad. It's not as though the government is starved for cash. Budget documents indicate that even after the Martin government's wild spending spree last fall, even after all the myriad of goodies unveiled by the Conservatives yesterday -- after all that spending and tax cutting, the federal treasury will still be awash in billions of dollars of surplus cash.

Thankfully, it's only our money.
And There's a new promise-breaker in town. And his name is Stephen Harper

So this budget was targeted at benefiting nobody except for the Harpocrites base, not the average Canadian.

Voters won't forget.
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Okay, Link, i'll bite, where does it lead to?

Voters won't forget.
They forgot about all the billion dollars worth of self-serving Libby election promises when they deep sixed your tards, and are now becoming ecstatic over taking a chance on honest Harper, so what's left for the 'Voters' to forget 'cept for X'ing a libtard next time around.

Concerning Harps amazing first budget which now deservedly sports an extraordinary voter appeal rating of 65%, sorry, you were suggesting something about something to do with voter something or something. :?



Cheer Up Link, at least we can agree on NORAD. :lol:
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What's wrong Otis, The Harpers got your tongue. :wink:
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tough love wrote:Okay, Link, i'll bite, where does it lead to?
Are you being intentionally obtuse Tina or are you really that much of a fucking idiot?

:roll::roll:



Tina wrote:
They forgot about all the billion dollars worth of self-serving Libby election promises when they deep sixed your tards, and are now becoming ecstatic over taking a chance on honest Harper, so what's left for the 'Voters' to forget 'cept for X'ing a libtard next time around.

Concerning Harps amazing first budget which now deservedly sports an extraordinary voter appeal rating of 65%, sorry, you were suggesting something about something to do with voter something or something. :?



Cheer Up Link, at least we can agree on NORAD. :lol:
:lol:

It's going to be a pleasure watching those numbers go south faster than the Jets did when they left Winnipeg once voters start to realise that the tax cuts Harpocrite dished them out are being gobbled up businesses..

Montessori's already increased their prices for next year by $100 per month..per child... :lol:
A parking firm has already stated that they won't be reducing their price but instead will leave them the same level and pocket the 1% GST tax cut as profit...
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Link Punked:
Are you being intentionally obtuse Tina or are you really that much of a fucking idiot?
Once bitten, twice shy.
More blahsnoozeblah
And yet, this way a Harper majority comes; and I predict that you are going to be so very very entertaining when that fine day comes to pass.

MELTDOWN IN GOODTOWN :)
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Well the latest poll has Harper down to 35% and libs without a leader at 31%. The support for us fighting bushies war in Afghanistan is faltering as well.

Support plummets for Afghan mission
An increasing proportion of Canadians disagree with Canada's decision to send troops to Afghanistan, and the opposition is growing fastest in Quebec.

According to a poll conducted this week among 1,000 adults across the country, there has been a sharp decline in support for military involvement in Afghanistan compared with two months earlier.

About 54 per cent of those polled oppose or strongly oppose Canadian involvement, compared with 41 per cent in mid-March. Negative sentiment has grown sharply in Quebec, where 70 per cent of respondents are against sending troops to Afghanistan, compared with 53 per cent two months ago.

The survey was conducted by the Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail on Wednesday and Thursday. The cross-country numbers have a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

While “Canadians have shown some ambivalence to this issue right from the start,” and were hesitant to support military involvement in Afghanistan, the emotional intensity of the opposition appears to have increased, said Strategic Counsel chairman Allan Gregg.

That's partly because of the number of troops killed in the conflict, and the debates about flying flags at half-mast and the role of the media in covering military funerals, he said.

“Active military combat is just not consistent with Canadians' self-image of what we should be doing abroad,” Mr. Gregg said yesterday. “For good or ill, we continue to see ourselves as kind of the Baden-Powell of the world community, doing good deeds, not getting killed or killing others.” (The late British lieutenant-general Robert Baden-Powell, although a military hero, is best known as the founder of Scouting.)

Still, there is continuing support for the mission among the Tories' key supporters: men, people between 35 and 49, and individuals with income of more than $100,000 a year.

Only about 38 per cent of Conservative voters oppose sending Canadian troops to Afghanistan — but this number, too, has grown, from 24 per cent in March.

“While things are clearly not moving in the right direction for them, it's far from a disaster,” Mr. Gregg said.

The most pressing issue for the Conservatives is the low level of support in Quebec for the Canadian presence in Afghanistan.

That could give the Liberals a wedge issue they can try to use to hammer the Tories in the province, Mr. Gregg said.
I am not at all surprised. Support will continue to decline each time another soldier is killed.

Interesting though the Conservatives voters opposition has grown from 24% to 38% that somewhat surprises me but then again there have been numerous soldiers killed since last poll.

I think Harper will have no choice but to do the right thing and get us the hell out of there.

Politically speaking he could very easily lose seats in Quebec over this. The more soldiers coming home in body bags the more support he will lose.

Read the rest here


Post-budget poll shows slip in support for Tories

I know the last poll by a different polling company had conservatives at 41%, so you could say they are down 6.
A new poll suggests Conservative support has slipped, despite a month that saw the government end the softwood labour dispute and unveil a budget that cuts the general sales tax.

When asked which political party's candidate they would vote for tomorrow, 35 per cent of Canadians said a Conservative candidate -- down four per cent from a poll released in April.

For other party candidates (with +/- change since April in brackets):
31 per cent said Liberal (+2);
16 per cent said NDP (+2);
10 per cent said Bloc Quebecois (-1); and
9 per cent said Green Party (+2).
With the decline in support for our Afghan mission (Posted them Here It was my latest post in that thread.) so his decline in overall support should not come as a surprise.

I know this is only one poll by one poling company but the overall numbers and the support for the afghan war do not look good for Harper, especially since no leader for the libs.
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C Wrote:

I am not at all surprised. Support will continue to decline each time another soldier is killed.

Interesting though the Conservatives voters opposition has grown from 24% to 38% that somewhat surprises me but then again there have been numerous soldiers killed since last poll.

I think Harper will have no choice but to do the right thing and get us the hell out of there.

Politically speaking he could very easily lose seats in Quebec over this. The more soldiers coming home in body bags the more support he will lose.
I believe that it is wrong to offer up our fine young cannibals to be sacraficed for a purpose that f-ed up stone age rag head people can never understand, until they evolve it up a whole lot.

My guess is God would be lucky to realize a 2% - spiritual worthy of the paradise path return rate on his creation investment - from all who reside in any of those shit flinging countries.

Why New Canada would even want to fool itself in this regard is beyond retardation. Harper is not doing his poli any favors by pretending that these tards are human beings who can be tamed.

Pampering to the levels of immorality is suppose to be the Libby's job. :x

That said; New Canada is still miles ahead with Harper in place, then that which we were previously cursed with.

No one is perfect...Harper just happens to be a whole lot better for Canada then the di$mal alternative...Go Majority.
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No one is perfect...Harper just happens to be a whole lot better for Canada then the di$mal alternative.
Somehow I doubt that. The liberals left Canada in very good shape and would still be in power if it was not for that investigation over Christmas.

The libs still got 102 seats even with Gomery. People just wanted a change because the Libs were in office for so long.

It was more of an anti liberal vote than a pro Harper one. Hell Harper only got 1/3 of the votes.

The funniest thing too is Harper lost seats here in BC and the NDP and Libs gained seats.
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Canadian wrote:
No one is perfect...Harper just happens to be a whole lot better for Canada then the di$mal alternative.
Somehow I doubt that. The liberals left Canada in very good shape and would still be in power if it was not for that investigation over Christmas.

The libs still got 102 seats even with Gomery. People just wanted a change because the Libs were in office for so long.

It was more of an anti liberal vote than a pro Harper one. Hell Harper only got 1/3 of the votes.

The funniest thing too is Harper lost seats here in BC and the NDP and Libs gained seats.
Question Canadian,

How many seats do you think Harper will get in BC the next time around with the Emmerson debacle hanging around his neck?
In the last election the Conservatives saw their share of the popular vote drop by 20 percentage points from the previous election, while the NDP's jumped 15.

Now that people have seen the farce that is this current dictatorship, I'm betting the Harperites numbers in BC will be more in line with the number of seats that they won in Vancouver...
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The Western Otis Troll Wrote:
The funniest thing too is Harper lost seats here in BC and the NDP and Libs gained seats.
New Canada's Visionist PM Harpers' ability to end the soft wood debacle with the brooding giant after just one poli-minute in power has shaken the magic mushroom people from their lib-tard induced fear.

All your (:wink:) peoples now belong to New Canada.




pssst otis; you forgot to rack yourself.
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The moron Harper sold us out on softwood and as well let his new "buddy" steal a billion our our money.

I know Harper will lose Emersons seat as no conservative held that riding since Diefenbaker was in. The NDP/Libs always finish 1-2 and the cons a distant 3rd.

This may cause him a couple seats in the suburbs I think.

I know my riding just went liberal and the NDP was a close second and the tories who won last time finished a distant 3rd but of course my old mp was Gurment Grewal and I think it was because of him the cons got kicked to the curb here.
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The moron Harper sold us out on softwood and as well let his new "buddy" steal a billion our our money.
No one side ever get's everything that it wants when a dispute get settles.
BC Forestry folk are happy that someone with a brain who didn't practice message board diplomacy came to their rescue and got their industry back on track.
Harper has been a God Send for your Forestry Folk, their families, and all of the spin off industry folk involved, and they know it.
Because of this one thing alone Harper will do better in BC, come the next election...And who knows what other magic The Visionary has in store for the good people of B.C.

Face it; Lib_Po$ers messed up practically everything.
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What you fail to understand there already was a deal and the US was not abiding by it. We should of cut the oil and power off until they abided by the already signed deal.
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What you fail to understand is that the US could bring Canada to her knees in a new york minute, without one gun shot needing to be fired.

It was pure madness at it's libby worse to treat American_Tard the way those Libiots did...It is suicide to butt heads with a deranged giant. You need to out think that which you can not out fight.

The retarded PigMartin$ just about ruined OUR country with their lack of common sense. Being a dopey Laytonite your are sniffing to close to depraved Libby ass to smell the horrid stench that those pigs created for Real Canada.

If you were not a heathen, you would be properly thanking God for the diplomatic skills he created within Canada's new PM.

A true Statesman indeed...God Blessed Harper :)


News Flash
With all the oppositions poli_posed_outrage, and their "MEDIA" tears of screech and wailed teeth over Harps terrific for New Canada budget, today -> IT WILL GET PASSED.
So much for the self serving monkey$ who so adamantly failed in their attempt to turn the good people of New Canada against themselves.

Seriously Canadian; you need to stop pigging out on the plentiful rancid media feasts.

RACK Prime Minister Harper, New Canada's breath of fresh air.
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So I see that the anti-Canadians united to pass the budget..

Props to the two parties that want to fuck this country over in order to benefit other countries for showing their allegiances..

Tina, here's you new passport..

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Props to the two parties that want to fuck this country over in order to benefit other countries for showing their allegiances..
Thank You, and much Props to your two parties for fucking this country over to benefit themselves.

And The Ultimate Fuck Over Award Goes To:

Bully PigMartin and His Tarnished Gang of Corrupticians.
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