Can you recommend anything from your state?

The Whistle Is Screaming · Mon May 22, 2006 7:27 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Crater Lake is ungodly crazy beautiful

Wow, stunning ...

http://craterlake.wr.usgs.gov/photos.html

Dinsdale wrote:(deepest lake in North America-btw).

Deepest in US not NA, see Great Slave Lake in the Great White North, eh.

http://home.comcast.net/~igpl/Lakes.html

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:31 pm

The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:Having an open mind is a good place to start. Don't compare everything to "home" is the next thing you should try.

Uhm, dude -- did you notice that I mentioned a couple of spots in cali-fucking-fornia as choice scenery? Doesn't get any more "open-minded" than that. californians and Oregonains have a special relationship -- we think they're the scum of the earth, and they think we're arrogant pricks. It's a "yin-yang" thing.

But, as usual, I'm misunderstood. I've had the good fortune to have been able to travel the U&L fairly extensively, and I've enjoyed every last bit of it...some places more than others. Just about everywhere in california that I've travelled, or at least the parts that have "topography"(sup not the Central Valley) have been awesome(if you avoid the populated areas of cali, it's SWEET). Couldn't have had a more open mind when I went to Arizona...altough when I got there and bumped around, I came to the conclusion "it's Easten Oregon with cactus and the thermostat turned up a few degrees." I guess that shouldn't have been a suprise, since it's essentailly the same chunck of ground (the High Desert and Great Basin cover a pretty damn large percentage of the US). Didn't take more than one trip to Nevada to learn that if you're not next to the mountains, you're in the armpit of the universe.

But truth be told, I've loved every last bit of it*, and look forward to falling in love with even more of this Great Land Of Ours. But, that kinda defies my internet persona of being an arrogant, elitist U&L dickhead, so I usually keep that stuff under my hat.

* -- except Fallon, Nevada. Holy fucking shit....why? And why do we need a Navy base in the middle of the desert? In case the Mormon fleet mobilizes across Salt Lake to take control of the casinos?

I recommend against vacationing in Fallon...unless you're looking for toothless Indian chicks to fuck you in the bathroom of the Quciky-mart, in which case, it's the place for you.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon May 22, 2006 7:35 pm

Dinsdale wrote:But, as usual, I'm misunderstood.

Trust me dude, I can relate.

Didn't take more than one trip to Nevada to learn that if you're not next to the mountains, you're in the armpit of the universe.

Never been to the Middle East, I take it? With the possible exception of Israel, there isn't enough money on the face of the earth to get me to back there voluntarily.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:36 pm

The Whistle Is Screaming wrote: Wow, stunning ...

http://craterlake.wr.usgs.gov/photos.html

Actually, those pics don't even do it justice. You pull up to the lake, and the breath literally leaves your lungs. Absolutely amazing. You'd swear they dump dye in there to make it such a rich blue. But like I said, not so much in the way of stuff to do, besides gawk at the lake.

(deepest lake in North America-btw).

Deepest in US not NA, see Great Slave Lake in the Great White North, eh.

http://home.comcast.net/~igpl/Lakes.html

I stand corrected.

Deepest canyon in the US is in Oregon, too.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:38 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Never been to the Middle East, I take it?

Nope. Not really planning on it, either. My Dad lived in Iran, and warned me. My Veteran buddy confirms all of the nasty tales my Dad told me, so I'll take a pass.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Mon May 22, 2006 7:40 pm

Dinsdale wrote: But, as usual, I'm misunderstood.

RIP Denn.

Dinsdale wrote:But, that kinda defies my internet persona of being an arrogant, elitist U&L dickhead, so I usually keep that stuff under my hat.

I'm trying to help with that persona, but with you admitting shit like this, it kinda make my job harder.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Mon May 22, 2006 7:41 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Deepest canyon in the US is in Oregon, too.

When did Cinder move from Utah or is she just visiting?

Terry in Crapchester · Mon May 22, 2006 7:42 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Never been to the Middle East, I take it?
Nope. Not really planning on it, either. My Dad lived in Iran, and warned me. My Veteran buddy confirms all of the nasty tales my Dad told me, so I'll take a pass.

Can't say I blame you. That's no place to go if you don't have to. But after having been there myself, I have a really hard time with anyone referring to any other place on earth as the "armpit of the universe." JYou might not particularly care for Nevada, but it's fuggin' paradise compared to the Middle East. Just sayin'.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:43 pm

The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:
RIP Denn.

Indeedm.

I'm trying to help with that persona, but with you admitting shit like this, it kinda make my job harder.

I'm sure I'll find a way to redeem myself, you cocksucking, shitty-beer-drinking, U&R faggot.

Although I'm still chuckling that Wolftard suggested that someone leave the West Coast to drink vino....funny.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:43 pm

I'm not looking for poon...maybe to look at, but that is about it. Scenery, historical significance, relaxation, ...local taverns would be cool but not really needed so long as I can buy my own jug somewhere. TTB's pictures of Jackson looked pretty sweet.

^^ is Crater Lake. I've seen the shocking blue color several times when I have visited. It is simply Unreal.

I will have to breakdown the costs of flying/renting a car, versus driving for a few days each way. If I've got the AC on in the Expedition, then I don't really expect to see more than about 13 mpg. Every 13 miles I would be coughing up 3 bucks.

Maybe I could borrow Lil Luth's VW bug as it gets around 25 or so. Even that right there is 12 bucks compared to spending about 24 with the Ford to go a hundred miles.

Places that don't interest me: Ovens like Phoenix, Palm Springs and Vegas. Kiddie parks like Disneyland or Sea World. Too many people; L.A. and the coastline up to S.F., huge National Parks like Yellowbone, just get too many people. Just throwing out my bobber and worm with Andy and Gomer at the lake near Mayberry would just be fine with me.

Rip City

Terry in Crapchester · Mon May 22, 2006 7:46 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Although I'm still chuckling that Wolftard suggested that someone leave the West Coast to drink vino....funny.

Finger Lakes wine country is great. The wife and I had a wine tasting trip lined up this year, but unfortunately, her friend who set it up did it for the only day we could sign our son up for football, and the day also happened to be very cold, so we passed.

Having said that, I've never gotten to the Napa Valley (although I have been to other parts of California), but I'm sure that's a great place for wine-tasting as well.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon May 22, 2006 7:55 pm

And since I missed this the first time . . .

Dinsdale wrote:shitty-beer-drinking, U&R faggot.

I should point out that, although you directed this at TWIS, I avoid the U&R beer like the plague (unless you count eastern Canada as part of the U&R). But having said that, some beers out there actually make the U&R beer taste good by comparison -- Hamm's and Old Milwaukee come to mind.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:56 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I have a really hard time with anyone referring to any other place on earth as the "armpit of the universe." JYou might not particularly care for Nevada, but it's fuggin' paradise compared to the Middle East. Just sayin'.

Don't finalize that judgement until you've seen Fallon...just sayin. But, you're probably right.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I've never gotten to the Napa Valley (although I have been to other parts of California), but I'm sure that's a great place for wine-tasting as well.

EXCELLENT TAKE!!!

Sin,
Marcus Fucking Allen

And if you're in the Northeast, I'm sure it's a deece place for wine tasting...all things being relative. But trying to compare it to any of the West Coast states would be laughable...on a good day. There's three states in the USA that make good wine...and several others that for some odd reason think they do...ponderous. On a related note -- some of the finest pinot noirs ever produced in human freaking history, the 2004 Willamette/Yamhill Vallies are just hitting the shelves right about now. If anyone is a crazy pinot fan, this is the stuff you've been waiting for...seriously.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:01 pm

Can't find any really cool pics of Newberry Crater.

The stuff on the right is black glass, which you can hike around on. Pretty cool.

This page has a bunch, but I don't think any of them really do it justice --

http://www.kevinfreitas.net/journal/ore ... no-visits/

mothster · Post by **mothster** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm

hywy 1 from san simeon to monterey-------on a weekday morning

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Finger Lakes wine country is great. The wife and I had a wine tasting trip lined up this year, but unfortunately, her friend who set it up did it for the only day we could sign our son up for football, and the day also happened to be very cold, so we passed.

Have you ever gone to wine country on the East end of Long Island? There are some great vineyards there.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Most of which seem to be in my backyard lately.

Saw a fairly bigazz skeeter couple of nights ago. Lame. We gots all kinds of skeeters around here, but they're generally these little, itty-bitty microscopic things that are rarely even noticed, and rarely leave much of a bite to speak of.

I hope this trend doesn't continue. Big skeeters suck.

Did I mention I've seen some massive fucking skeeters in Nevada? I think they were skeeters, anywway...I was too busy locking myself in the car and cowering in skeeter-fear to tell for sure, but I'm fairly sure they were skeeters.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:37 pm

...Ovens like Phoenix...

Ah come on Luth...it's a dry heat!

Glorious sunbathing greets all in the
arid splendor of Phoenix, Arizona!

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:39 pm

Luther,

Yosemite is always crowded as hell so I guess that's out, if you ever make it this way Kings Canyon/Sequoia is a must see and the park is wheelchair friendly so your set..... :D

As for Crater Lake.....
like Dins (the arrogant Prick only a fellow U&L resident could tolerate) said, those pictures don't do it justice, it's simply stunning. Actually thinking of heading that way this summer myself. If Timmah buys the first Ale I just might have to visit Bend again.

again Dins is correct...
My buddy was stationed at Fallon for 2 years
1 visit was all it took to never return again....ever.
A lot of Arkansas is a very close second to central Nevada.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:41 pm

That was some deece scenery around these parts over the weekend. Nice to see a failed nuke plant go. OK, the nuke plant was gone years ago, but the cooling eyesore remained(and the fuel rods remain, sitting in a bunker, until they "cool down.")

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:45 pm

Y2K wrote:My buddy was stationed at Fallon for 2 years

Navy or Coast Gaurd?*

And to anyone else reading...no, I'm not joking. There's a freaking Navy base (although I'm told it's used for pilot training), and a Coast Gaurd station in the middle of the freaking desert...your tax dollars at work.

* -- And in case you were wondering -- there's no way I can even type that with a straight face.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:52 pm

Fine, don't listen to me.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:54 pm

Y2K wrote:Dins (the arrogant Prick only a fellow U&L resident could tolerate)

It's only a select few of those, brother.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:02 pm

Come to Missouri for the ElvisMonsters.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:08 pm

Ever been here, Luth?

I hear it's lovely this time of year.

YD · Post by YD » Mon May 22, 2006 9:23 pm

Y2K wrote:If Timmah buys the first Ale I just might have to visit Bend again.

IN

Bizzarofelice wrote:Come to Missouri for the ElvisMonsters.

:snicker:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:29 pm

timmay wrote:
Y2K wrote:If Timmah buys the first Ale I just might have to visit Bend again.

IN

Coupla fine alehouses from which to choose in your neck, eh?

Although I still mourn the fall of the mighty Deschutes Brewery. Sold it out for the buck....bastards. Used to be the best, bar none.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:31 pm

Minnesota skeeter kicks Alabama skeeter's arse.
Jus sayin.

Luth:

Visit the "House on the Rock" in Spring Green WI. Tasteful, elegant, very suave.
Then drive up to Duluth
Over to Bayfield
Circle down to the Wolf River
Check out Lambeau Field in Green Bay
Catch a Brewers game in Milwaukee
Stop at State Street Brats in Madison
Head back to Iowa

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The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:46 pm

Besides gambling?

Ummmm.No

YD · Post by YD » Mon May 22, 2006 9:48 pm

Dinsdale wrote:

Coupla fine alehouses from which to choose in your neck, eh?

Although I still mourn the fall of the mighty Deschutes Brewery. Sold it out for the buck....bastards. Used to be the best, bar none.

well I wouldn't exactly turn down a bottle of mirror pond,but I would not buy one either.

The "big" batches mostly suck these days.

But if you go to the pub and get the stuff they brew there, it still is damn , damn , damn good. kegs are still $$ too.

problem is that pub is jammed with tards and tourists by 4pm everyday.

BBC's brew wench can stil make a mean IPA and a few seasonals, so thats an option.

I'll rack the Hammerhead Mcmenamins is rolling out here. somethin about the dry weather makin the shit ferment just at the right speed.

I guess there's still some mighty fine nectar to be found in these here necks o the woodses

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:14 am

Y2K wrote: A lot of Arkansas is a very close second to central Nevada.

But not all, not even close.

I think Luth would enjoy the Ozarks.

http://www.buffalonationalriver.com/

If you haven't seen this, then you have missed something worth seeing.

In the end, to have been on the Buffalo, even for a single day, will be a memory to be pulled out and reviewed when the pressure of daily life or the dreariness of dark winter days threatens to consume. It's a step out of time and space into a place where time doesn't matter and the whole world is beautiful and inviting.

P.I.G. · Post by **P.I.G.** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:41 am

Toddowen wrote:Can I recommend anything from my state?

Sure, Luth. I recommend you stay off of I-95. In other words, don't even bother to drive through the state.

You need your ass beat, punk. No doubt.

Some cop will do it. Have fun trying to walk after.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue May 23, 2006 1:47 am

Y2K wrote:Luth,

Take a week or more and head down here.

2 days in Yosemite
Enter the park from the East side by Mono Lake, drive over Tioga Pass and down to the Valley. Start early as there's a lot to see, I suggest starting from Topaz Lake at the CA/NV border on Hwy 395 (80 miles south of Reno). The Best Western Resort is outstanding and inexpensive (nice casino and food BTW) You can stay in Yosemite (expensive) at the 41 gate (moderate) or in Oakhurst (preferable) after a long days drive and go back to spend a full day or more exploreing the Valley floor. Drive down to Fresno and book a nice room anywhere on the north side right on Hwy 41 as you enter the city. (Beers and grub at Y's place are a couple minutes away if you so desire) :D

You left out Yosemite View Lodge, which is only a 20 minute drive from Yosemite Valley, just outside the park gate on Hwy 140 in El Portal. After a long drive of sightseeing, hiking or fishing this might be a bit more appetizing than having to drive about 1.25-1.5 hours to Oakhurst. The motel is also right along the Merced River, so one might have some nice music hit the sack to (depending on the level of the river). Should you opt to stay in Oakhurst, check out El Cid for dinner (north end of town). For a place far away from Mexico in the mountains they had amazingly good food).

And another ten minutes down that highway is Cedar Lodge. Just make sure to keep your Chief's Special on you at all times.

As far as crowds, Yosemite can be quite crowded. Basically Memorial Day until about three weeks after Labor Day the park is jammed with tourons (after the Labor Day weekend hordes of frogs come in buses knowing that the American kids are in school. God I hated those fuckers!

). The rest of the year the park isn't crowded usually isn't crowded at all.

But my preference would be to simply drive down US395 from Reno to Bishop, CA. Absolutely great scenery along that highway, with some pretty good fishing (and great scenery) in the Mammoth/June Lake area. There's plenty of camping sites, and there's even some hot springs in the Mammoth area. And if you should take this drive, make sure to stop for a meal at the Mobil gas station where 120 meets 395. You might think I'm kidding, but they actually get rave reviews from national food critics (the cook there is actually a former chef, I believe). And the prices are quite reasonable.

M2 · Post by M2 » Tue May 23, 2006 2:37 am

Speaking of Nevada(northern)... I just drove across the whole state today and most of Utah.

The Rubys still have plenty of snow, and are quite a site.

The Utah Salt Flats were a bit of a nightmare for about 60 miles... the wind was so bad that it turned into a white-out similar to a blizzard. Only with salt as opposed to snow. Couldn't see 3 cars ahead.

I'm now in the beautiful Ski resort / Olympic villlage town of Park City, Utah.

Good call on Crater Lake... you need to see it in person to appreciate it.

Joey Moss · Post by **Joey Moss** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:53 am

Come to Alberta and forget Banff, Jasper and Drumheller we've got :

http://www.roadtripamerica.com/places/gopher.htm

lk_pick1 · Post by **lk_pick1** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:12 pm

My gosh,TTB, TWIS, Sam, M2 - those pics are breathtaking.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:23 pm

Missourah also has the Picker and its own variation of the mullet toss.

lk_pick1 · Post by **lk_pick1** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:55 pm

I want to see pictures of your community - hell, show me your house, I'll show you mine.

We have one of the finest museums here in KC, St. Louis has the Arch.

I can't think of a whole lot of other stuff, unless you fish and carp, then you have the Ozarks area, which is very EW.

lk_pick1 · Post by **lk_pick1** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:29 pm

While contemplating what to thaw for dinner, we have this:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:34 pm

War Wagon wrote:http://www.buffalonationalriver.com/

If you haven't seen this, then you have missed something worth seeing.

Killing me ovah here.

Because it's not like Luth has a cooler scenic river than that...5 minutes from his house.

Damn, some of you really are deprived of much to look at.

And exploring caves...hmmm....

Not too terribly far from Crater Lake. And if my memory is working correctly (doubtful), the largest fir tree in the country is right near the Caves.

The more I see this thread, the more I think Luth is taking a downgrade by venturing far from home. We're some spoiled-ass-motherfuckers around here.