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Details emerging after 17 terror arrests in Toronto

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Details began emerging Saturday of an RCMP raid east of Toronto in which 17 people were arrested Friday evening on terrorism-related charges.

Police said 12 adults and five young offenders have been charged with a number of terrorism offenders.

The RCMP said they "have arrested a number of individuals who were planning to commit a series of terror attacks against targets here in southern Ontario."

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The RCMP, Canadian Security Intelligence Service officials, and law enforcement officials, including the heads of several Toronto-area police forces held a news conference that began at 10 a.m EDT. in Mississauga, Ont., just west of Toronto.

All the men arrested were residents of Canada and most are Canadian citizens, officials said.

"This group holds a real and serious intent," RCMP Assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell said.

Officials have not said what specific targets the suspects may have had, although McDonell did confirm that Toronto's transit system was not a target.
Well thankfully we have a police force that was capable of preventing a terrorist attack before it happened. I am still surprised about this though.

Maybe we should get the hell out of Afghanistan?

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It shows that our cops are more than capable but as I've said elsewhere, the timing of this raid stinks of politics.

There's more questions that need to be answered and answered in full detail before we convict them as being terrorists.
But caution is advised until all the facts are known.

Before we rush to judgment, it's worth remembering the 19 foreign students, mostly from Pakistan, arrested in 2003 in and around Toronto, allegedly for plotting to blow up the nuclear reactors at Pickering or the CN Tower.

After a huge media uproar and lurid claims the charges were dropped and the accused deported for visa irregularities.

The Bush administration wants Canada to get tough on a wide assortment of Muslim groups and individuals protesting U.S. policy in the Muslim world.

These raids by hundreds of Canadian security officers and police against a relatively small number of mostly young Muslim suspects in Mississauga, Toronto and Kingston suggest this high-profile operation may have been designed as much for public relations and diplomatic reasons as national security. No doubt, Washington will be very pleased with Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

But not everyone accused is always guilty.

It's possible that among the 12 adults and five minors charged, Canadian security organizations have rounded up some loud-mouthed teenagers who have been encouraged to sedition by government "agents provocateurs."

We won't know what really happened until the accused go to court. It appears an FBI investigation last month into a group of American Muslims from Atlanta who went to Toronto and met co-religionists there led to the current arrests.

FBI and Canadian authorities believe they have uncovered an important terrorist cell plotting major attacks in Canada and the U.S. But the FBI's track record to date has not been impressive. Recall that of the more than 2,000 Muslims arrested in the U.S. since 2001 for suspicion of terrorism, less than 15 were convicted, and those mostly for minor visa offenses. source
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Suspect accused of wanting to behead PM, lawyer claims
One of the suspects in an alleged bomb plot in Ontario is accused of wanting to storm Parliament, behead the prime minister and attack a number of sites, including the CBC building in Toronto, his lawyer says.

Lawyer Gary Batasar, who represents Steven Chand, also known as Abdul Shakur, made the comments on Tuesday after a court appearance in Brampton, Ont., for 15 of 17 suspects arrested under Canada's Anti-terrorism Act on the weekend.

"My client's alleged to have been part of a plot to blow up Parliament Buildings in Canada, storm the CBC, take over the CBC, as well as, among other things, behead the prime minister," Batasar said.
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I am sure he would of failed to behead Harper or blow up the Parliament buildings. These are just ramblings of a madman I think and his desire to install fear.
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wanting to behead PM
Well hell, he can't be all bad then...
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Publication ban slapped on terror hearing
The lawyer representing one of 17 people accused of being terrorists has launched a blistering attack on the "oppressive, isolation conditions" in which the men are being held.

Before a hearing began at the Brampton courthouse Monday morning for the 17 arrested earlier this month - at which a justice of the peace imposed a publication ban on the proceedings - Rocco Galati said the oppressive conditions included:

being in a room with a light on 24 hours a day;
being denied leaving this room for the first five days for even 30 seconds;
being given only five minutes to eat their meals - otherwise their meals are taken away from them;
not being allowed to speak to anyone, including the guards;
being forced to keep their eyes on the floor at all times.

Galati, who represents Ahmed Mustafa Ghany, 21, of Mississauga, added that when the arrested men, including five who are charged as youths, are escorted or walked from Point A to Point B, "they must walk at a 90-degree angle with their legs upright and their torso across at a 90-degree angle with handcuffs stretched out. And they are being escorted by three armed tactical members of the security forces."

Galati also accused the authorities of unfairly leaking selected information to the media "to ensure the denial of a fair bail hearing and the denial of a fair trial," he said.

He was infuriated that the crown would ask for a blanket publication ban. He said he wants the allegations against his client to be known.
I don't approve of a publication ban in this case, Canadians are very interested in this and we should be allowed to know what is going on and it gives the impression the Crown has something to hide.

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A momentous, impending clash in the Supreme Court of Canada between national security and the rights of terrorism detainees has taken on even more significance since the arrest of 17 terrorism suspects.

A three-day appeal -- the first major constitutional test of laws aimed at rooting out terrorists -- starts tomorrow and is expected to yield a blueprint for how the court sees fundamental human rights stacking up against the fear of terrorist attacks.

Julian Falconer, a prominent civil rights lawyer, expressed apprehension that a wave of fear about terrorism and Muslims that has swept the country could affect the Supreme Court judges, regardless of how strenuously they may try to ignore it.

"I don't see how we can expect our judges to be immune to this," Mr. Falconer said in an interview. "It isn't logical. I'm certainly concerned about it creeping into the quotient. Judges are not robots."
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This will be interesting to watch but we will probably have to wait a few months for the Courts decision.

On a similar note:

Ex-hostage speaks up
Ex-hostage James Loney likened his Iraq ordeal to five foreign nationals detained in Canada based on secret terrorism concerns yesterday.

"I think it goes against everything we say we are in our society," Loney said, standing outside PM Stephen Harper's office yesterday.

Loney, human rights activists and relatives of the men called on Harper to cancel the practice of signing security certificates, which are the basis of legal challenges by three of the detainees that reach the Supreme Court today.

Loney was held hostage in Iraq for almost four months along with another Canadian and two others before he and two of the others were rescued earlier this year.

The certificates, signed by two government ministers, enable the authorities to detain foreigners without charge or full explanation under threat of deportation to their home country.

Two of the five detainees have won release on bail. Two others are being held in what has become known as Guantanamo North at Kingston's Millhaven Penitentiary.

"These men are facing deportation to torture," said Matthew Behrens, co-ordinator of a Freedom Caravan to Ottawa from Toronto organized to demand the end of security certificates.

Acknowledging the five men have legal rights he never had, Loney said their deportation risk likely puts them in a similar frame of mind to what he once felt.
I agree with him, not to mentioned nothing has been proved against these people either.

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