Dinsdale wrote:You mean those 3 rings he won in the post-Jordan era?Cicero wrote:The Shaq that won 3 rings was better than the Hakeem that won 2.
Fine logic, douche.
As opposed to the two Hakeem won while MJ was out of the League.
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Does it suck being a fucking moron, Cicero?Cicero wrote:Dinsdale wrote:You mean those 3 rings he won in the post-Jordan era?Cicero wrote:The Shaq that won 3 rings was better than the Hakeem that won 2.
Fine logic, douche.
As opposed to the two Hakeem won while MJ was out of the League.
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:ItShaq was such a behemoth, that he was going to power his way to points. Whereas Hakeem was just so much more of a skilled center
Uhhhhh......Hakeem LOOKED AND WEIGHED like he was from africa. He NEVER moved Shaq off the low block by backing him down. That's fucking hilarious. The guy was a twig. He finessed Shaq with moves, but to say he muscled Shaq makes you look like the idiot that you sound.Dinsdale wrote:MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:ItShaq was such a behemoth, that he was going to power his way to points. Whereas Hakeem was just so much more of a skilled center
Dude....seriously...were you sitting next to Sissyroo watching hoops in the 90's?
No...seriously?
Since you were OBVIOUSLY too young to understand what was going on, I'll help you out (as will ANYONE here old enough to have a working memory of the era...ANYONE) --
Hakeem absolutely DOMINATED Shaq physically. Those position battles in the paint WEREN'T EVEN CLOSE.
Don't believ me? Ask fucking Shaq -- he never once tried to make those bitchslapping out to be anything different from what they were...bitchslappings(always admired that about Shaq -- admits to taking a beating when it happens...which hasn't been for a long time).
No, seriously...are you retarded, or lying?
NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Dream moved Shaq off the block at will. Any other rendition of the story is firmly planted in "revisionist history." Hakeem just plain physically overpowered Shaq...at will.
Nice dramatics. Why is it so difficult for you to get to your fucking point without having to seizure all over your keboard?Dude....seriously...were you sitting next to Sissyroo watching hoops in the 90's?
No...seriously?
Since you were OBVIOUSLY too young to understand what was going on, I'll help you out (as will ANYONE here old enough to have a working memory of the era...ANYONE) --
Hakeem absolutely DOMINATED Shaq physically. Those position battles in the paint WEREN'T EVEN CLOSE.
Don't believ me? Ask fucking Shaq -- he never once tried to make those bitchslapping out to be anything different from what they were...bitchslappings(always admired that about Shaq -- admits to taking a beating when it happens...which hasn't been for a long time).
No, seriously...are you retarded, or lying?
NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Dream moved Shaq off the block at will. Any other rendition of the story is firmly planted in "revisionist history." Hakeem just plain physically overpowered Shaq...at will.
LINK??????Dinsdale wrote:T REX wrote:He NEVER moved Shaq off the low block by backing him down.
Oh, reeeeally?
You're an idiot-btw.
Uhm...Shaq admitted as much after the series...tard.
But, I guess you'll just have to take my word for it...since you obviously didn't see it.
Cicero wrote:I have def watched more of his games than Dins
PrimeX wrote:What great centers did Shaq ever have to face "in his prime"?
Cicero wrote:Hakeem, Ewing, David Robinson and Duncan.
OK. Now that we've established beyond any and all fucking doubt that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about(like there was any doubt before), thanks for cementing it.Cicero wrote:Shaq punked Ewing as soon as he entered the League.
Van wrote:It's like rimming an unbathed fat chick from Missouri. It's highly distinctive, miserably unforgettable and completely wrong.
Cicero wrote:Horrible take my friend. I gave props to Hakeem but in IMO Shaq is the best center since Kareem. I'm entitled to my opinion and there are a lot of writers and fans of the game that back up my sentiments.
Again, who the fuck did Shaq face in their prime? Who did he guard one on one?You act as if Shaq never made an All-Star or won multiple Finals MVPs.
Again....LINK???? I see a lot of people quoting players. i'll gladly go alright....just show me a link?PrimeX wrote:
And FYI- Robert Horry, David Robinson, Pat Ewing, and John Salley just to name a few "big men" have all said Hakeem was better than O'Neal. Robinson faced both in their primes.
When Robert Horry, a guy who played with both at their absolute peaks, picks Olajuwon over O'Neal, that pretty much tells you all you need to know.
Given their problems with defense overall ('sup Flip?), not to mention a lack of offensive output ... pretty much.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Shaq did just dominate Ben Wallace - the best defensive center in the game today.
But I'm sure you guys will find a way to turn that into something completely meaningless.
Van wrote:It's like rimming an unbathed fat chick from Missouri. It's highly distinctive, miserably unforgettable and completely wrong.
Hia Airness picks Dream on his all time top 5 fantasy team. Game over.T REX wrote:Again....LINK???? I see a lot of people quoting players. i'll gladly go alright....just show me a link?
And here is the end all argument;Jordan: Ew not da man
Patrick sags on Air's all-era team
Patrick Ewing can't catch a break with old nemesis Michael Jordan. The Bulls legend, who repeatedly denied the Knick center a ring while capturing six of his own, tells SLAM magazine that Hakeem Olajuwon gets the edge in the pivot on the starting five Dream Team - including himself at shooting guard - from his era.
His Airness selected Magic Johnson at the point, split small forward between Bulls teammate Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird, and chose UNC teammate James Worthy over Kevin McHale and Karl Malone at the four.
And at center: "I'd go with Olajuwon, that's without a doubt," Jordan said. "I mean, I never saw Jabbar in his prime, and I love Patrick, but I would have to say the versatility of where the game was going, Olajuwon was by far the best at the center position. And even Shaq, he's the dominant center of today, but if you ask him back when he first came in, if he doesn't say Olajuwon, then he's got a little amnesia." The anniversary issue - SLAM's 100th - will be on newsstands later this week.
hey, thank you for the link. I don't mind giving that at all. I just think that they never played while Shaq was in his prime. If you don't think that Shaq would have dunked all over Hakeem, I can't help you.....330 lbs vs 245????? You are joking right?PrimeX wrote:Hia Airness picks Dream on his all time top 5 fantasy team. Game over.T REX wrote:Again....LINK???? I see a lot of people quoting players. i'll gladly go alright....just show me a link?
http://www.nypost.com/sports/64670.htm
And here is the end all argument;Jordan: Ew not da man
Patrick sags on Air's all-era team
Patrick Ewing can't catch a break with old nemesis Michael Jordan. The Bulls legend, who repeatedly denied the Knick center a ring while capturing six of his own, tells SLAM magazine that Hakeem Olajuwon gets the edge in the pivot on the starting five Dream Team - including himself at shooting guard - from his era.
His Airness selected Magic Johnson at the point, split small forward between Bulls teammate Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird, and chose UNC teammate James Worthy over Kevin McHale and Karl Malone at the four.
And at center: "I'd go with Olajuwon, that's without a doubt," Jordan said. "I mean, I never saw Jabbar in his prime, and I love Patrick, but I would have to say the versatility of where the game was going, Olajuwon was by far the best at the center position. And even Shaq, he's the dominant center of today, but if you ask him back when he first came in, if he doesn't say Olajuwon, then he's got a little amnesia." The anniversary issue - SLAM's 100th - will be on newsstands later this week.
TOTAL THREE-POINTERS IN THE NBA FINALS
Olajuwon - 1
Shaq - 0
Olajuwon is the only center to ever play in the NBA Finals who brings the defensive package, the offensive moves, clutch free throws, and hits 100% of his 3 pointers.
Slap fest over. Dream wins!
Damn, you are pretty stupid......anyone will tell you there is a difference between......21 and 24 and 28......the human body peaks performance wise in that 27-29 age bracket. Combine that with experience and you have a far superior athlete at 28 than 21 or 24. If you don't know that....again, can't help your obtuse mind. I appreciate the debate but at this point you just can't seem to grasp anything outside your own little skull.Dinsdale wrote:Shaq's moves around the basket got better as he got older? He became more proficient as he aged?
If you say so...
Shaq got slower and weaker as he aged and gained weight, dildo....not the other way around.
Shaq at 305 had way better "moves" (stretching the definition of "moves" here) than Shaq at 330 or 360.
His best "move" is the one where the refs help him out, and put the opposing big men in foul trouble. Now that the league (and not Father Time) have taken that away from him...we're seeing the "real" Shaq, rather than the WWNBA-created Shaq. Take those extra 3 players off his team, and he don't look so "dominant." I'm not sure why the NBA didn't enforce the rules 13 years ago, but they needed a poster-boy, so they created one.
The way Dallas played against San Antonio ... yeah, I guess my prediction wasn't predicated on a complete meltdown. I should have added that unexpected caveat, with AJ apparently coaching a bunch of scared tampons.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:This was the most memorable thing I took from this thread.RadioFan wrote:If .. and it's a big IF ... Dallas gets up 2-0, the series is over
Damn, I'm an ass.
Sincerely,Leave the predicting and forecasting to people who actually have a fucking clue.