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Wolfmother
I'm not up on new music much but they've at least caught my eye (or ear I should say) Their song "Dimension" is the theme song for Dane Cook's Tourgasm on HBO...it's pretty catchy. "Love Train" is on IPod ads if I'm not mistaken. They've got a nice sound but critics are putting some lofty comparisons on them. Throwing out mentions of Zeppelin, Sabbath and The Who...always a curse for any new band to get comparisons to the greats of the past. The thing that made those bands great was the fact they invented with their own unique sound because no bands came before them ever sounded like that. They revolutionized rock 'n roll and how it sounded. Since not many bands today are creating their own niche or at least, the new stuff that's out there isn't all the good to me...bands like this have to resort to going retro to draw fans based on the fact they sound like someone else. Any reviews from the music mavens in here? I haven't heard enough for me to buy their debut album but they've peaked my interest a bit.
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MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Don't listen to the haters, Shoalzie. Wolfmother is badass.
I did buy the album this weekend since I was at a Best Buy to pick up the FIFA 06 game for the PC. I'm pleased with the purchase so far. I'm into more straight-ahead rock than some of the artsy (for lack of a better term) stuff that is revered in here...no offense to you guys but I just don't share the same interest as many of you. I tried not to think of them in terms of the greats of the past when I listened through the album a couple times. They've got some of same qualities as the White Stripes, Jet, Queens of the Stone Age and The Darkness...all bands I enjoy. I do appreciate their use of harmonica and organ...that's kind of a throwback to Zeppelin. A couple of their songs do sound like early Sabbath. To me, I think the greatest music has already been made...but I'm open to some new stuff from time to time.
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If that is who their sound is going to be compared to, then I will definitely listen to it over what other bands are producing these days.The Assassin wrote:I liked them alot when they were called Led Zeppelin
Rack Shoalzie for the comparison of a few songs to Black Sabbath. I got a couple of listens this weekend and the CD is excellent.
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MuchoBulls wrote:If that is who their sound is going to be compared to, then I will definitely listen to it over what other bands are producing these days.The Assassin wrote:I liked them alot when they were called Led Zeppelin
Being a Zeppelin wannabe isn't the worst thing to be called. Originality in music running thin today but I don't mind hearing bands that like to go with a throwback sound. Some do well in that venture but not all do. I really wonder what some people would think of a band like this if they never read or heard a review from another person or magazine. Would the immediate thought in everyone's mind be: "These guys are ripping off Zeppelin or Sabbath"? I really want to be able form my own opinion on music when I go out to buy something new but everyone is a critic in some fashion and want to steer people into listening to same stuff as they do. I think for some in here, if it's a band another person has heard of, they can't possible be good. It's like the more underground something is, the better. If that's your thing, that's cool. Music is just like art, literature, food, movies...everyone has different tastes. Since Zeppelin isn't going to do anything new any time soon (duh)...there's nothing wrong with hearing something from a modern band with a comparable sound doing new songs. They aren't my new favorite band but I do like what I hear.
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They are just getting a ton of hype right now, so a lot of people's immediate reaction is going to be backlash. I guess it's understandable, the way some bands get shoved down our throats as "the next big thing." (Prodigy anyone? The Hives?)
Then again, the same thing happened in 91 with Nirvana, but they actually turned out to really be the next big thing.
What it comes down to is, if you like it, listen to it. If not, don't. (Or just bitch about it like Mgo.) Let the hipster emo art fags worry about hype and "the next big thing."
Then again, the same thing happened in 91 with Nirvana, but they actually turned out to really be the next big thing.
What it comes down to is, if you like it, listen to it. If not, don't. (Or just bitch about it like Mgo.) Let the hipster emo art fags worry about hype and "the next big thing."
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I don't dislike them because of their hype. Shit, The Strokes and Interpol were hyped way more than Wolfmother and I love both of those bands. Rush is one of my favorite bands evah, and they're about as mainstream as it gets. I'm just saying "stay away" as my recommendation. You can take that for what it is.
You can like whatever music you want just as long as you don't tell me what music I should listen to. I'm always open to recommendations but it should ultimately be the decision the one who owns the pair of ears whether or not they like it. I like to read people's opinion of music in here because there are so many different preferences and tastes. In the end, listen to the stuff you like to listen to.
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I didn't say you shouldn't listen to them (although I would have no problems doing that). I simply said I don't recommend them, albeit in a very assholish way, but nevertheless, that's all I said.Shoalzie wrote:You can like whatever music you want just as long as you don't tell me what music I should listen to. I'm always open to recommendations but it should ultimately be the decision the one who owns the pair of ears whether or not they like it. I like to read people's opinion of music in here because there are so many different preferences and tastes. In the end, listen to the stuff you like to listen to.
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Please, this act is tired. Even you know that isn't how anyone thinks, but for some reason, you (and others) continue to beat that dead horse.Shoalzie wrote:I think for some in here, if it's a band another person has heard of, they can't possible be good. It's like the more underground something is, the better.
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Shoalzie, I don't think you'll find too many people listening to "underground" music because it's cool to like stuff "no one else has ever heard of". At least, I don't know anyone who's in it for that reason.
First off, just because the top 40 radio crowd has no idea who Broken Social Scene is doesn't mean "no one has ever heard of them". I assure you TONS of people have heard these bands. And you can get MUCH more "underground" than BSS, and fan interest is still prevalent nation/worldwide. There are entire cities and areas with cultures that eat, sleep, live, and breathe these kind of bands. Just ask Dins.
Secondly, the reason, more often than not, that "underground" bands appeal to me is due to their complete freedom to record the music they want to make, as opposed to the kind of music a major record label wants to make. Of course, not all bands on major labels are completely compromising, and most of they time, their music is just tinkered with to suit the wants of the suits which obviously is just increasing sales. That could mean squeaky clean production on an album the band might want to sound a little dirtier. When you're on an independent record label, you have complete freedom and control to write and produce as you see fit. You can be as quirky or straight ahead as you want. There are no limitations, therefore, the music often comes off as much more pure and enjoyable to listen to.
That's it in a great big nutshell.
First off, just because the top 40 radio crowd has no idea who Broken Social Scene is doesn't mean "no one has ever heard of them". I assure you TONS of people have heard these bands. And you can get MUCH more "underground" than BSS, and fan interest is still prevalent nation/worldwide. There are entire cities and areas with cultures that eat, sleep, live, and breathe these kind of bands. Just ask Dins.
Secondly, the reason, more often than not, that "underground" bands appeal to me is due to their complete freedom to record the music they want to make, as opposed to the kind of music a major record label wants to make. Of course, not all bands on major labels are completely compromising, and most of they time, their music is just tinkered with to suit the wants of the suits which obviously is just increasing sales. That could mean squeaky clean production on an album the band might want to sound a little dirtier. When you're on an independent record label, you have complete freedom and control to write and produce as you see fit. You can be as quirky or straight ahead as you want. There are no limitations, therefore, the music often comes off as much more pure and enjoyable to listen to.
That's it in a great big nutshell.
Unfortunately, I'm pretty much in the Capital.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:There are entire cities and areas with cultures that eat, sleep, live, and breathe these kind of bands.
Actually, I shouldn't say that -- I'm in a city/area that pretty much eats, sleeps, lives, and breathes music of all kinds. For this, I'm actually pretty fortunate. Mom and Dad did pretty well when deciding where to drop their DNA Disaster.
All the transplant-types seem to favor the indiepop scene. And since this area is about 80% transplants...well, there you have it.
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Just ask Dins.
This is an excellent rule of thumb to follow in ALL circumstances, not just on matters relating to music.
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Oh, I have the means -- they all live here, are in the process of moving here, or play here every other month. And I doubt the $20 would ever put me at risk of living in a van down by the river.Shoalzie wrote:More power to you if you've got the means to see these lesser known bands.
I just choose not to.
Me neither.I don't ever knock someone who is passionate about music.
I just knock some of the people here on an occasion for being passionate about crap.
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But you can't deny that there is a certain resentment that you feel when an "underground" band that you've liked for several years suddenly breaks into the mainstream. I've certainly been guilty of it in the past.MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I don't think you'll find too many people listening to "underground" music because it's cool to like stuff "no one else has ever heard of". At least, I don't know anyone who's in it for that reason.
Right now, Wolfmother and the Sword are big topics at stonerrock.com, because of the perception that they're either corporate pawns or just some emo kids cashing in on a certain style of music. Do these kids really care about metal, or is it a tongue-in-cheek goof, like the Darkness? And does it even matter?
On one hand, you're wondering why these particular bands are getting all this attention when superior (but similar sounding) bands are virtually ignored. But there's also the school of though that any exposure for good music is good for the genre as a whole (in this case, stoner/doom/sludge rock), even if the bands getting the most hype aren't necessarily the most deserving.
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Breaking into the mainstream, in-and-of-itself isn't so bad. I'd probably stop listening if the band in question made a clear "philosophy change" to their writing, producing, and recording as it pertained to feeding the wants of their meal tickets. Some bands have made it on big record labels, whilst maintaining complete musical independence. Radiohead would be the best example. I have all kinds of respect for that.MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:But you can't deny that there is a certain resentment that you feel when an "underground" band that you've liked for several years suddenly breaks into the mainstream. I've certainly been guilty of it in the past.
I posted about Wolfmother here months ago, they have been one of the hottest bands here in Australia for ages, I saw them perform live a few months back & they are bloody brilliant live, even better than they sound on record, so what If they sound like Zep etc
I would rather listen to them than Paris Hiltons crappy single & don't get me started on all that so called hip hop "I love my bitch I love my mvscal" (yes that is a real song I heard on the radio the other day) crap!
Now a song you absolutely must hear is "One crowded hour" by Augie March
You can download it on myspace http://www.myspace.com/augiemarch
It is one of my all time favorite songs at the moment
I would rather listen to them than Paris Hiltons crappy single & don't get me started on all that so called hip hop "I love my bitch I love my mvscal" (yes that is a real song I heard on the radio the other day) crap!
Now a song you absolutely must hear is "One crowded hour" by Augie March
You can download it on myspace http://www.myspace.com/augiemarch
It is one of my all time favorite songs at the moment
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I finally got this album after a year of saying "I need to get that album."
I enjoy it. Yes, the Zep and Sabbath references are inevitable but so what. I like Oasis and they sound like The Beatles. I like Rancid and they sound like The Clash. Sure, I'll take those classic bands over their contemporary doppelgangers but I still like listening to 'em.
I enjoy it. Yes, the Zep and Sabbath references are inevitable but so what. I like Oasis and they sound like The Beatles. I like Rancid and they sound like The Clash. Sure, I'll take those classic bands over their contemporary doppelgangers but I still like listening to 'em.
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Are you kidding me? If you want to compare Wolfmother to anyone, compare them to Cream with a splash of Black Sabbath thrown in for good measure.stuckinia wrote:There is a difference between Oasis and Rancid sounding like the Beatles and Clash, and Wolfmother completely copying Zeppelin's sound. You can at least discern Oasis and Rancid from the rest. Wolfmother is a sorry coverband.
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Yea, there's some Deep Purple/ELP/Procol Harum goin on there too.King Crimson wrote:deep purple...mos def in the mix.BSmack wrote: If you want to compare Wolfmother to anyone, compare them to
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luckily for us push the little daisies and hey there fancypants kept ween to ourselves forever.MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote: But you can't deny that there is a certain resentment that you feel when an "underground" band that you've liked for several years suddenly breaks into the mainstream.
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I think you're off base with this comment. I hear less Zep in them than I do Sabbath or Cream (good call BSmack). I think the album is really, really good.stuckinia wrote:There is a difference between Oasis and Rancid sounding like the Beatles and Clash, and Wolfmother completely copying Zeppelin's sound. You can at least discern Oasis and Rancid from the rest. Wolfmother is a sorry coverband.
I hate the "I can't appreciate them because they're derivative" argument. If that were truly the case, no one would like any music.
Of all the bands that have been obviously influenced by the previously mentioned bands, Wolfmother does it better than just about everyone else that's tried in the last 30 years.
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i'm not sure about the Cream thing. WM is a trio, Cream was a trio. OK. but they don't sound like Cream to me. not sure they have that epic, beautiful nonsense and guitar god thing of Jack Bruce, Ginger Baker, and Clapton.
more White Stripes to me. Apple Tree might have well been on White Blood Cells.
i hear Highway Star or Jack White's version of LZ I more than Sunshine of your Love.
more White Stripes to me. Apple Tree might have well been on White Blood Cells.
i hear Highway Star or Jack White's version of LZ I more than Sunshine of your Love.