Don't Mess With British WWII Vets...Nish, your comments.

[Rich Fader]

Bandstand vets send yobs packing

A gang of youths who tried to ruin a pensioners' open-air concert were beaten back and fled when faced by a "Dad's Army" armed with walking sticks.

More than 30 youngsters, aged between 18 and 25, yelled obscenities at the brass band and kicked footballs at the conductor while terrorising the 300-strong elderly audience, which included Second World War veterans.

But a battalion of 20 pensioners, moved by a rendition of the theme from The Great Escape, rose from their deck chairs and formed a front line of attack. Wielding walking sticks, they advanced towards the enemy.

The youths lost ground and eventually turned on their heels and fled.

Yesterday former RAF pilot Les Brown, 78, who served in Egypt during the Second World War, said: "We got so fed up with these little toe-rags, that some of us decided to stop them.

"The Great Escape music came on and I looked round and caught glimpses of other people, who were obviously thinking the same as me. The next thing I knew I was standing up and marching towards them along with lots of others.

"It felt like I was back in the war again. But we were a determined lot. We might be old but these youngsters didn't stand a chance in hell."

The showdown flared in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, on Sunday as the youths spilled out of pubs after watching the World Cup.

Steve Rice, the chairman and tuba player with Bristol's Redland Wind Band, said: "We simply wanted to make people happy with some nice music, but these hooligans weren't interested in that. They wanted to cause trouble and were very drunk and aggressive."

Outstanding.

RACK the other Les Brown and his Band of Renown

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I blame Islamic Fundamentalism.

The youngsters have obviously been terrorized into a manic condition following the 7/11 bombings.

They need hugs. I suspect the veterans are soft on the war on terror, and possibly pro Al Queda.

[Mississippi Neck]

I blame Islamic Fundamentalism.

I would've guessed the same until I read the youths attacked with soccer balls. Islamic youths would've used rocks.

[Adelpiero]

rack

shame, like in usa, the 20- 30ish peeps are pussies. . it's not about liberal or conservatism, it's about being a pussy who is always wanting to be a victum.

go to central west end, over by washington u, and see a shit load of pussy 30ish people.

[Nishlord]

Hilarious.

And WAR Dad's Army.

[Bizzarofelice]

go to central west end, over by washington u, and see a shit load of pussy

fixed, tough guy. While you're looking for fights I'm looking at chicks that have seen the inside of a gym. 636 has only pondered being inside of a Jim.

[smackaholic]

go to central west end, over by washington u, and see a shit load of pussy

fixed, tough guy. While you're looking for fights I'm looking at chicks that have seen the inside of a gym. 636 has only pondered being inside of a Jim.

personally, if I has ever "been inside of a Jim", I'd keep it to myself.

just sayin'

[Rich Fader]

I blame Islamic Fundamentalism.

I would've guessed the same until I read the youths attacked with soccer balls. Islamic youths would've used backpack bombs.

FTFY.

:twisted:

[Uncle Fester]

Whatcha got there, the 4 volt? Heh, I did you a favor.

-G. Costanza

[missjo]

I thought my Boyfriend was the only person who called people toe-rags outside of an episode of The Bill.

[warren]

Hilarious.

And WAR Dad's Army.

For this I truly RACK you Douchelord, however, let's just keep in mind who kept Monty's ass out of the fire.

I don't believe he was Anglican.

[Nishlord]

Excellent, warren. Have you seen the episode when the GIs come to Walmington-On-Sea? And what other Brit TV are you liking?

[warren]

Excellent, warren. Have you seen the episode when the GIs come to Walmington-On-Sea? And what other Brit TV are you liking?

Look dude, I think all telly sucks, however, I am recieving a blowjob from the old lady I'll watch anything BBC, the YOUNG ONE's, or even that washed fuck that allows people to open boxes and then get's on the phone and has an imaginary conversation with his "BOSS" about cutting a deal.

The saddest thing about it is though, is I get over here to the Grand OLE USA and they every thing you limey freaks pass through the ass.

Telly's for losers, I only get on this comical wheel when I'm drunk or lonely.

As far as the war, I do mean no disrespect to the wonderful, amazing sacrafice and human suffering that the British people went through.

I am fortunate to have new found friends or family as may say, that lived through the horrors. Just down the road from us is where the first "buzz bomb", or V-2 Rocket hit a bridge.

I like to mess with you, because you're good fun, but as you know, I'm British as well, just didn't grow up there, however the more and more time I spend with the real English the more and more I come to love your's and MY country. I'm still in Texas due to world events, and I find myself truly longing for home, and I live in the East End for goodness sakes.

So get this right through your head Euroclone, your cool, your country's cool, and I'll always be an American at heart, but I miss your culture, your land, and I don't truly hold a single resentment towards you whatsoever.

Oh, other than your from up North, you fucking brainless skinheaded fools.

[Nishlord]

I'm from the Midlands, though.

Check out It Ain't 'Arf Hot, Mum if you get the chance. Same era and writers as Dad's Army, and just as funny.

[Dinsdale]

"buzz bomb", or V-2 Rocket

Not to nitpick, but a "buzzbomb" was a V1. Their pulse-jet fired about 100 times per second, which created a "buzz" sound...until the engine cut and it took its nosedive.

RACK the Amerilimies-btw.

[warren]

"buzz bomb", or V-2 Rocket

Not to nitpick, but a "buzzbomb" was a V1. Their pulse-jet fired about 100 times per second, which created a "buzz" sound...until the engine cut and it took its nosedive.

RACK the Amerilimies-btw.

Thanks for the specs Dins, and I've always respected you as a poster here, however, I don't give a fuck what the pulse jet did, my Mother in Law heard and saw it blast the fuck out of a bridge, so if you want discuss it with her and what they call it she'll be glad to tell you about the blitz.

And she don't lie, bra.

But I do get your point.

[Dinsdale]

I don't give a fuck what the pulse jet did, my Mother in Law heard and saw it blast the fuck out of a bridge, so if you want discuss it with her and what they call it she'll be glad to tell you about the blitz.

I was just pointing out that a "buzzbomb" was a V1...semi-guided aircraft with a bomb on front. A V2 was a true rocket, and made a "whoosh" as it came in at ~3000 MPH...that's all I was sayin'.

I regards to discussing the Blitz with your MIL...dude, I don't think I could take it. I spent about the first 35 years of my life hearing allllll about it. My Dad grew up in Farnborough(where they have the airshow...nobody knows Farnborough, until you mention the airshow...not too far outside Southampton), which was home to a massive RAF base(Dad lived next door to it). Mom grew up next to Paddington Station. Of all the places to be in England during WW2, I'm not sure you could find two worse ones. Spending the night in ashelter or Underground station sounds like it was well below average...and don't forget your gas mask.

[Goober McTuber]

Spending the night in ashelter or Underground station sounds like it was well below average...and don't forget your gas mask.

Probably something to do with all the bangers and mash.

[Dinsdale]

Mmmmmm.....bangers and mash.

[Dinsdale]

Not to nitpick, but the "whoosh" wouldn't be heard until well after the explosion what with 3,000 mph being considerably faster than the speed of sound and all.

Continuing with the "not to nitpick" theme, but...


hello?

Why would the sound of the explosion travel any faster than the sound from the "whoosh?"


Kinda insignificant, regardless.

But, the folks who were there generally say that a V1 was more terrifying than a V2, even though the V2 was more destructive, as a general rule. But, Dad always said that there was something about hearing the "buzz" overhead, and then it suddenly stops...and when that eery silence hit, you knew somebody in the general vicinity was about to get dead. The V2 was more of a "whooshBOOM," then it was all over...happened very suddenly, without that horrible moment of anticipation.

Then again, in the earlier days of the bombing raids(1940-41), Dad had Nazi pilots, who were flying low under the radar, strafe him and his friends on there way to school, forcing them to be late because they were hiding in the ditch. After that, he's never been one to be easily rattled. To this day, Mom still ain't down with fireworks shows. A little too real for her.


Rough time and place to grow up.

[Dinsdale]

Because it would be closer.

I'll let you figure out the flaw here on your own.


The word "trajectory" might come into play.

[Dinsdale]

It is what witnesses reported hearing.

Know many of those, do you?



If a missile come in at a 45 degree angle, and continues this trajectory(or close to, it obviously wouldn't be perfectly linear), and flies directly overhead, the distance from the missile and the distance to the point of impact are going to be roughly the same.


What "witnesses reported hearing" from a V2 was pretty much one big, quick noise...and a whole bunch of echo.

[Dinsdale]

The sound the rocket made one minute before it struck has to travel 50 miles. The sound made by the explosion only had to travel a couple blocks.

And what about the sound it made 1 second before impact?


That just goes away, does it?

[Tom In VA]

And what about the sound it made 1 second before impact? That just goes away, does it?

There was no sound a second before impact. Which part of supersonic are you struggling to comprehend?

By the time it arrived it would be drowned out by the noise of 2,000 lbs of explosives detonating.

Not to nitpick and all but just because you couldn't hear it, doesn't mean there wasn't a sound. You yourself said in that statement ... there was a sound ... it was just drowned out.

:faggywinky:

[Dinsdale]

It's yet another example of who to listen to in regards to what sort of noises a V1 and V2 made -- a guy who was there and survived many near-misses while growing up near the southern coast of England, next to one of the largest RAF bases...a guy who then grew up to become an engineer, who at one point designed missile guidance systems...a guy who was also known to fuck my mother on an occasion...


or mvscal...



hmmm....tough call.

[OCmike]

...a guy who was also known to fuck my mother on an occasion...

Your old man ever find out?

[Dinsdale]

Your old man ever find out?

Yeah, but he appreciated that fresh milk dude brought to our doorstep every morning so much, that he let it slide.

[Dinsdale]

The V2 on re-entry would achieve speeds of 3000mph, several times the speed of sound. At the least the V1 gave some warning, if only from listening to the drone of the pulse jet engine. When the drone ceased, the engine having its fuel automatically stopped, the V1 would shed its wings and engine, and would hurtle to the ground and dispatch its bomb load.

The V2 on the other hand gave no warning at all, unless you can count the ‘double thunder clap’ or ‘a Rumble and plop’

So, your "eyewitness accounts" pretty much reiterated what mine said.