Dubya, stop giving women the shocker

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:50 pm

Is it asking too much?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:55 pm

nein means nein

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:00 pm

Good catch. RACK

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:58 pm

He's got one heck of a long right arm if he's giving her the Shocker in that pic.

See You Next Wednesday · Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:10 pm

Rich Fader wrote:He's got one heck of a long right arm if he's giving her the Shocker in that pic.

^^^ Supergenius at work.

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:51 pm

See You Next Wednesday wrote:
Rich Fader wrote:He's got one heck of a long right arm if he's giving her the Shocker in that pic.
^^^ Supergenius at work.

Wile E. Coyote at your service, my good man.

:D

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:37 pm

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:21 pm

The fact that this loose-cannon moronic frat-boy has been engineered into the the presidency is itself a tragic and disgraceful stab in the back to America's principles, prosperity, and profile in the world.

The fact that he's also a startlingly childish and immature character is merely an embarrassment.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:42 pm

Degenerate wrote:

RACK

BRING BACK THE WICKMAN AV!

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:01 am

Id let her shock me. :twisted:

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:39 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:The fact that this loose-cannon moronic frat-boy has been engineered into the the presidency is itself a tragic and disgraceful stab in the back to America's principles, prosperity, and profile in the world.

The fact that he's also a startlingly childish and immature character is merely an embarrassment.

[...spoken not so much like a mere independent, or even like a Goddamned independent, as like a GDI so loathsome, irritating and socially maladroit that he couldn't get a fraternity pledgeship bid if he rolled in a truckload of kegs and a pallet load of assorted illegal drugs, fanned a couple of stacks of hundys under the noses of the actives and offered his sister as the locomotive for a "train". Not even if she looked like Scarlett Johansson.]

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:51 am

The Assassin wrote:Id let her shock me.

Interesting to note that we have hermaphrodite representation on the board.

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:18 am

The first time I ever heard of the Shocker was on the Jungle and it involved guys getting their rectums fingered by other guys (not that there's anything wrong with that...actually, now that I think about it, that is wrong. Very, very wrong.) I didn't actually know about the female variant until later.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:21 am

Rich Fader wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The fact that this loose-cannon moronic frat-boy has been engineered into the the presidency is itself a tragic and disgraceful stab in the back to America's principles, prosperity, and profile in the world.

The fact that he's also a startlingly childish and immature character is merely an embarrassment.
[...spoken not so much like a mere independent, or even like a Goddamned independent, as like a GDI so loathsome, irritating and socially maladroit that he couldn't get a fraternity pledgeship bid if he rolled in a truckload of kegs and a pallet load of assorted illegal drugs, fanned a couple of stacks of hundys under the noses of the actives and offered his sister as the locomotive for a "train". Not even if she looked like Scarlett Johansson.]

Huh?

Look at his face, fader.

That's the President Of The United States

Yes, this nightmare is actually happening.

Wakey Wake

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:47 am

It's simple. I said your sad ass couldn't get pledged to a fraternity even if you offered the fellas booze, drugs, money and your virgin sister in an attempt to bribe your way in.

I'm sorry...when I think "long national nightmare", the President teasing the German Chancellor just isn't what comes to mind. I can't even imagine getting excited if it'd been Bubba doing that to her instead of Dubya. I'd laugh about it and that'd be it. (Of course, Bubba preferred to grab the other end, but I digress...)

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:50 am

Rich Fader wrote:It's simple. I said your sad ass couldn't get pledged to a fraternity even if you offered the fellas booze, drugs, money and your virgin sister in an attempt to bribe your way in.

The vast majority of Americans have never belonged to a greek letter society of any kind. In fact, I can't think of a single college that has a greek membership rate of more than 50%. Does such a place exist?

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:29 pm

True. And it's no shame in and of itself not to have joined. I am, in fact, the progeny of a long line of independents who were and are, nevertheless, the salt of the earth. But we're not talking about delightful people who would have made delightful fraternity and sorority members, but for whatever reason, never had the opportunity, or chose not to when they did. We're talking about individuals so utterly without redeeming virtue that they couldn't buy their way in with copious quantities of money, alcohol, drugs and tang. We're talking, in short, about people like LTS TRN 2.

And in any case, I'm not the one who started the frat-boy smack, now am I? LTS TRN 2 assumed the position, so I started swinging the paddle.

(By the way, Nick, if you're going to remain in that crouch, grabbing your ankles, with your tighty-whitie-...okay, baggy-grayish-yellow-with-a-large-splotch-of-brownie...-covered ass pointed uprange at me and my paddle, the proper response every time I smack you is "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" And be grateful. It could be worse. I joined a fraternity where the male Shocker would have been considered a filthy, disgusting, depraved act. Not all of them do.)

:twisted:

WAR consecrating the bond of obedience

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:36 pm

I for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be offensive. It paints with an astoundingly ignorant and broad brush.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:41 pm

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:I for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be offensive. It paints with an astoundingly ignorant and broad brush.

I agree.

It's "Fraternity."

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:47 pm

I, for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be SPOT ON.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:32 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:I, for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be SPOT ON.

I was a member of the same fraternity as Dr. Seuss, Orel Hersheiser and Dr. James Naismith. Something tells me they would not have been proud of my keg stand record.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:39 pm

jiminphilly wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:I, for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be SPOT ON.
I was a member of the same fraternity as Dr. Seuss, Orel Hersheiser and Dr. James Naismith. Something tells me they would not have been proud of my keg stand record.

They had a chapter in Geneseo. And a huge house on University Drive. And the biggest fucking bong I have EVER seen in my life. I swear this thing was so huge it had to be bolted to the table it was sitting on and you needed two people to properly operate the damn thing unless you happened to be sporting Dwayne Wade's wingspan.

Good times indeed.

PS: For those of you without Google skills, Jim was talking about the Sig Eps.

socal · Post by **socal** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:57 pm

mvscal wrote:How many interns has Dubya ejaculated on in the Oval Office?

How can he when you're latched onto his foreskin tighter than a drum?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:59 pm

mvscal wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:I, for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be SPOT ON.
Speaking of SPOT ON...

How many interns has Dubya ejaculated on in the Oval Office?

That would be ZERO.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:59 pm

BSmack wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:I, for one, find the phrase "frat boy" used as a pejorative to be SPOT ON.
I was a member of the same fraternity as Dr. Seuss, Orel Hersheiser and Dr. James Naismith. Something tells me they would not have been proud of my keg stand record.
They had a chapter in Geneseo. And a huge house on University Drive. And the biggest fucking bong I have EVER seen in my life. I swear this thing was so huge it had to be bolted to the table it was sitting on and you needed two people to properly operate the damn thing unless you happened to be sporting Dwayne Wade's wingspan.

Good times indeed.

PS: For those of you without Google skills, Jim was talking about the Sig Eps.

Road Trip!

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:59 pm

BSmack wrote:
Rich Fader wrote:It's simple. I said your sad ass couldn't get pledged to a fraternity even if you offered the fellas booze, drugs, money and your virgin sister in an attempt to bribe your way in.
The vast majority of Americans have never belonged to a greek letter society of any kind. In fact, I can't think of a single college that has a greek membership rate of more than 50%. Does such a place exist?

Along those lines, I can honestly say that there are no fraternities at Notre Dame. Never have been, and unless something unforeseeable happens in the future, there never will be.

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:54 pm

jiminphilly wrote:
BSmack wrote:
jiminphilly wrote: I was a member of the same fraternity as Dr. Seuss, Orel Hersheiser and Dr. James Naismith. Something tells me they would not have been proud of my keg stand record.
They had a chapter in Geneseo. And a huge house on University Drive. And the biggest fucking bong I have EVER seen in my life. I swear this thing was so huge it had to be bolted to the table it was sitting on and you needed two people to properly operate the damn thing unless you happened to be sporting Dwayne Wade's wingspan.

Good times indeed.

PS: For those of you without Google skills, Jim was talking about the Sig Eps.
Road Trip!

The Sig Eps in Geneseo are no more. They pissed of the college with some of their alcohol & violence-related antics, then they pissed off their national and got their charter yanked. As soon as they pissed off their alumni with the same idiocy, they died off. They epitomized the negative stereotype of greekdom and therefore didn't deserve to exist. Good riddance.

My Fratenity, OTOH, has prospered in Geneseo since expelling the tie-dyed, patchouli-doused, Deadheads. The undergrads do easily 10x the community service we ever did in the 80's - camping out around the "Greek Tree" for a week in the middle of winter to raise $$ for cancer research, using Spring Break to build homes with Habitat for Humanity, doing scads of walkathons, etc. They've won "Greek Organization of the Year" repeatedly. Sure as hell a long way from the group that sponsored madcap bongathons...

As someone who sees this stuff routinely here at Geneseo and who has both seen and gotten secondhand accounts of similar stuff from college administrators when I served as a National Officer for Alpha Chi Rho, I think I have a good reason to easily dismiss the uninformed opinions that paint fraternity membership as primarily thuggish behavior.

I, for one, and damned proud of being an Alpha Chi Rho and want my sons to follow in my footsteps.

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:06 pm

"Lemme see them teeth boy! Lemme see! I didn't agree to speek at the National Auction of African Colored People without getting comped, so open up!"

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:39 pm

Hey, he stole my move!

Sin,
-Your Average 7th Grade Boy

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:42 pm

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:The Sig Eps in Geneseo are no more. They pissed of the college with some of their alcohol & violence-related antics, then they pissed off their national and got their charter yanked. As soon as they pissed off their alumni with the same idiocy, they died off. They epitomized the negative stereotype of greekdom and therefore didn't deserve to exist. Good riddance.

More than these guys?

You could knock me over with a feather right about now. ;)

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:52 pm

BSmack wrote:
Mike the Lab Rat wrote:The Sig Eps in Geneseo are no more. They pissed of the college with some of their alcohol & violence-related antics, then they pissed off their national and got their charter yanked. As soon as they pissed off their alumni with the same idiocy, they died off. They epitomized the negative stereotype of greekdom and therefore didn't deserve to exist. Good riddance.
More than these guys?

You could knock me over with a feather right about now. ;)

DK's have always had monolithic support from their alumni. Come hell or high water or gang-rape charges, their alumni (including high-powered lawyers and businessmen with deep pockets) always show up to bail them out, arrange a good plea bargain, and buy them a new house when the village condemns their old one.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:33 pm

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:
BSmack wrote:
Mike the Lab Rat wrote:The Sig Eps in Geneseo are no more. They pissed of the college with some of their alcohol & violence-related antics, then they pissed off their national and got their charter yanked. As soon as they pissed off their alumni with the same idiocy, they died off. They epitomized the negative stereotype of greekdom and therefore didn't deserve to exist. Good riddance.
More than these guys?

You could knock me over with a feather right about now. ;)
DK's have always had monolithic support from their alumni. Come hell or high water or gang-rape charges, their alumni (including high-powered lawyers and businessmen with deep pockets) always show up to bail them out, arrange a good plea bargain, and buy them a new house when the village condemns their old one.

My younger brother went to Geneseo and got in pretty tight with the DK's as a freshman. They started putting major pressure on him to pledge, then some of their more, how shall I say, unsavory, goings-on came to his attention. He cut the ties with them real quick after that.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:45 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Mike the Lab Rat wrote:
BSmack wrote:More than these guys?

You could knock me over with a feather right about now. ;)
DK's have always had monolithic support from their alumni. Come hell or high water or gang-rape charges, their alumni (including high-powered lawyers and businessmen with deep pockets) always show up to bail them out, arrange a good plea bargain, and buy them a new house when the village condemns their old one.
My younger brother went to Geneseo and got in pretty tight with the DK's as a freshman. They started putting major pressure on him to pledge, then some of their more, how shall I say, unsavory, goings-on came to his attention. He cut the ties with them real quick after that.

You mean he didn't like being vomited on? Or date raping girls?

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:49 pm

BSmack wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Mike the Lab Rat wrote: DK's have always had monolithic support from their alumni. Come hell or high water or gang-rape charges, their alumni (including high-powered lawyers and businessmen with deep pockets) always show up to bail them out, arrange a good plea bargain, and buy them a new house when the village condemns their old one.
My younger brother went to Geneseo and got in pretty tight with the DK's as a freshman. They started putting major pressure on him to pledge, then some of their more, how shall I say, unsavory, goings-on came to his attention. He cut the ties with them real quick after that.
You mean he didn't like being vomited on? Or date raping girls?

Or gang raping them. Or being threatened if he decided not to pledge them.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:55 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
BSmack wrote:You mean he didn't like being vomited on? Or date raping girls?
Or gang raping them. Or being threatened if he decided not to pledge them.

I think we left out killing local cats as a part of pledging. Can we assume he wasn't down with that either?

DKs were a sick bunch of fucks. The amazing thing is that they were none too shy about advertising their intentions.

But, having a DK alumn as a Geneseo town judge didn't hurt.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:16 pm

BSmack wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
BSmack wrote:You mean he didn't like being vomited on? Or date raping girls?
Or gang raping them. Or being threatened if he decided not to pledge them.
I think we left out killing local cats as a part of pledging. Can we assume he wasn't down with that either?

DKs were a sick bunch of fucks. The amazing thing is that they were none too shy about advertising their intentions.

But, having a DK alumn as a Geneseo town judge didn't hurt.

I didn't know about that. I once had a conversation with the Newark village justice (this was back in my Wayne County days) who rather proudly advertised himself during this conversation as a DK alum. In one of my less discreet moments, I happened to mention my brother's experience with the DK's. He didn't seem too happy about it being brought up, but he wasn't exactly in a hurry to refute anything I said, either.

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:31 pm

BSmack wrote:I think we left out killing local cats as a part of pledging. Can we assume he wasn't down with that either?

Point of information - although they have been proven a bunch of gangraping thugs who are also incapable of a fair one-on-one fight, they do not kill cats.

Skeeter, who was the DKT vice president during the alleged incident (which has now achieved mythic status) set me straight about it:

- The DK's had apparently decided to "give the business" to a good guy who had depledged them for academic reasons and then came back to pledge the following semester. The DK's found a roadkill cat on Court St. in front of their house, strung it up in a closet, and forced the guy to spend quality time in the closet with the fermenting feline corpse.

So...they didn't actually kill it and don't kill cats as part of their pledging.

I have no reason to doubt Skeeter, since he got tossed from the DK's for being basically unwilling to go along with the thuggery and he wound up pledging AXP and becoming my Brother. Our National doesn't recognize local greeks and will take their former members of locals as long as they've proven that they've fully renounced all ties/loyalty to the local.

DK's were sick bastards.

Phigs (Phi Sigma Epsilon) were also sick, from a partying aspect. They drank out of frying pans..which is harder than it sounds. Good musicians.

Q, West Coast Style · Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:36 pm

I was in a fraternity. They're OK until you turn 21 when you no longer have to act like a jackass in order to socialize with alcohol.

If the drinking age in college campuses was 18, there would be no need for fraternities. I know I know, we've got a bunch of "dry" fraternities these days. Those fraterities are either guilty of false advertising or if they really are dry, they aren't really fraternities, they're just a bed and breakfast.

And horror of horrors, if they are a dry fraternity and still act like frat guys, then I don't know any school that wold want guys like that anywhere near their campus. The things that went down in my fraternity . . . I shiver to think of anyone would would even think about doing them while sober.

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:53 am

Actually, I got a lot out of the experience as an undergrad (for us it wasn't just about drinking), even going to the leadership conclaves and conventions. Went on to serve as Grad Chapter President and serve on several National Committees before getting named National Ritual Officer. Got to travel all over the eastern states (our Chapters only go as far south as North Carolina) and into the midwest. Did the National Officer thing for three years before the every-other-month trips to Neptune , NJ for Council meetings finally wore me out. Met a lot of good people. Still meeting more as time rolls on.

There's a lot of people for whom the greek experience was nothing more than a few years of boozing and good times, and that's OK for them. But there's also a bunch of us who put a lot in and got a whole lot more out.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:55 am

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Point of information - although they have been proven a bunch of gangraping thugs who are also incapable of a fair one-on-one fight, they do not kill cats.

I'll take your word on the cat killing thing. Though it's almost sad to see yet another Geneseo "legend" shown to be false. What are you going to tell me next? That the Bear won't climb off it's pedestal if a virgin graduates from Geneseo?

Hey man! You're wearing OUR colors!