Fantasy Talk

[indyfrisco]

My WR are as follows:

Torry Holt
David Givens
Joe Horn
Ashlie Lelie
Ernest Wilford
Chad Jackson

Not a stellar crop, I know, but we had 12 in the draft. No one is "loaded".

I will obviously start Holt.

The second I am torn between Givens and Horn. Givens will be going up against the Jets in Nashville. Horn is on the road at Cleveland. Volek likes to pass, but Bennet will be the #1 receiver. Horn also has Stallworth, but with Brees at QB, I can see a lot more passing for the Aints. I really see Horn having a bounce back year.

What would you do?

And I have Curtis Martin on my bench. Maybe I just need to drop this guy...course, there ain't shit out there. Looks like I need to consider a trade.

[BBMarley]

So you're all for fantasy football drafts in June as well? The reason why most of us wait is because of injuries. And not just to see if players don't get injured but how well others are returning from them.

[indyfrisco]

No, I prefer a later draft. It wasn't my decision though.

[jiminphilly]

So you're all for fantasy football drafts in June as well? The reason why most of us wait is because of injuries. And not just to see if players don't get injured but how well others are returning from them.

Alert the cops in KC.. Paul may be getting loaded this weekend.

[BBMarley]

No, I prefer a later draft. It wasn't my decision though.

Just a joke man... I copied one of Jim's posts from another thread. Are you looking at matchups for preseason, or week 1?

[indyfrisco]

Week 1.

[BBMarley]

Week 1.

Probably a little too early to tell. My inital reaction is Horn- but you ahve to wait and see if Brees is 100% for week 1.. etc...

[Felix]

I'd start Holt and Horn....better matchups

I copied one of Jim's posts from another thread

uh oh.......

[BSmack]

My WR are as follows:

Torry Holt
David Givens
Joe Horn
Ashlie Lelie
Ernest Wilford
Chad Jackson

Not a stellar crop, I know, but we had 12 in the draft. No one is "loaded".

I will obviously start Holt.

The second I am torn between Givens and Horn. Givens will be going up against the Jets in Nashville. Horn is on the road at Cleveland. Volek likes to pass, but Bennet will be the #1 receiver. Horn also has Stallworth, but with Brees at QB, I can see a lot more passing for the Aints. I really see Horn having a bounce back year.

What would you do?

And I have Curtis Martin on my bench. Maybe I just need to drop this guy...course, there ain't shit out there. Looks like I need to consider a trade.

Christ man, how about you wait a week or two before giving up on guys?

Here's the deal. A lot of shit is going to change between now and opening day. Right now, I'd start Holt and Horn and see how they do. Givens *may* have some upside, but right now he's the #2 guy on one of the worst teams in the NFL. A guy you may want to hang onto is Wilford. I see mucho upside there.

[Neely8]

Christ man, how about you wait a week or two before giving up on guys?

Here's the deal. A lot of shit is going to change between now and opening day. Right now, I'd start Holt and Horn and see how they do. Givens *may* have some upside, but right now he's the #2 guy on one of the worst teams in the NFL. A guy you may want to hang onto is Wilford. I see mucho upside there.

Sincerely,

Paul

[indyfrisco]

The only reason I think Givens is because I do see them playing from behind a lot which means lots of passing.

I'm not giving up on anyone yet. I just know C-Mart will probably get me more in trade than on the field.

[BSmack]

The only reason I think Givens is because I do see them playing from behind a lot which means lots of passing.

I'm not giving up on anyone yet. I just know C-Mart will probably get me more in trade than on the field.

What other running backs do you have?

[indyfrisco]

Reuben Droughns (looking to have a breakout year)
Warrick Dunn (1400+ rushing last year but only a couple TDs - fuckin duckett)
Curtis Martin (geritol and all)
DeAngelo Williams (rookie, but should get some PT early and a lot once Foster goes down)

I had the 7th pick and Manning was still available so I took him instead of gabbing a RB in the 1st round.

[Raydah James]

I had the 7th pick and Manning was still available so I took him instead of gabbing a RB in the 1st round.

Good Move.


After Manning, There is a huge dropoff in QB fantasy value. I've already decided that if manning isnt available when I draft in the first round, im going RB heavy for a few rounds and then swooping up a QB in the 6th or 7th round.


If need be, i'll wheel and deal from there since RB's hold a ton of value in my league.

[indyfrisco]

After Manning, There is a huge dropoff in QB fantasy value. I've already decided that if manning isnt available when I draft in the first round, im going RB heavy for a few rounds and then swooping up a QB in the 6th or 7th round.

Exactly.

And by the 7th RB, there is a HUGE dropoff from the top 6. Actually, the huge dropoff starts about 4 or 5 in the RB catagory.

[BBMarley]

Reuben Droughns (looking to have a breakout year)

Was- before he lost bentley.. that cost him about 200-300 yards

[jiminphilly]

I had the 7th pick and Manning was still available so I took him instead of gabbing a RB in the 1st round.

Good Move.


After Manning, There is a huge dropoff in QB fantasy value. I've already decided that if manning isnt available when I draft in the first round, im going RB heavy for a few rounds and then swooping up a QB in the 6th or 7th round.


If need be, i'll wheel and deal from there since RB's hold a ton of value in my league.

That round is a great place to get a guy like Delhomme.

[indyfrisco]

Reuben Droughns (looking to have a breakout year)

Was- before he lost bentley.. that cost him about 200-300 yards

What happened to Bentley?

[jiminphilly]

Reuben Droughns (looking to have a breakout year)

Was- before he lost bentley.. that cost him about 200-300 yards

What happened to Bentley?

BEREA, Ohio --
Bentley, a two-time Pro Bowl center and one of the team's prized free-agent signings this winter, sustained a season-ending injury to his left knee on the first 11-on-11 drill of training camp Thursday -- a crushing blow for a club seemingly cursed by major injuries the past few seasons.


"He was the face of our free-agent class," general manager Phil Savage said. "We feel terrible for LeCharles, but life goes on."


Savage said Bentley tore his patellar tendon and will undergo surgery as early as Friday. Savage declined to say if Bentley's tear was partial or complete and would not speculate on a timeframe for recovery.


Blocking for Reuben Droughns on an off-tackle running play to the right, Bentley, who played four years at New Orleans, was briefly engaged in a block up front with nose tackle Ted Washington when his left knee buckled.


Bentley screamed, "No!" and grabbed his knee as Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel and his staff blew their whistles to halt play. While on his knees, the 26-year-old Bentley punched the ground in disgust as the Browns moved their scrimmage up the field so the club's medical staff could attend to him.

SCOUTS INC.
The Browns had the makings of a better-than-average offensive line. LeCharles Bentley would have been the leader and best player of the group by far -- not to mention the one making all the line calls and adjustments. The line looked fine on paper and had the makings of a solid group -- now there are serious concerns. Story
As Bentley was being helped, linemates Joe Andruzzi and Cosey Coleman came over to check on the 26-year-old, who sat on the ground for several minutes before being carted to the locker room.


Bentley's injury is the latest for a Browns team beset by serious medical setbacks -- No. 1 overall picks Courtney Brown and quarterback Tim Couch had several major injuries -- since the club returned to the league as an expansion team in 1999.


On Thursday, tight end Kellen Winslow had his first contact after missing the past two seasons with major leg injuries. The Browns are also without wide receiver Braylon Edwards, their first-round pick in 2005, who is expected to be out until Oct. 1 following knee surgery.


When Winslow was seriously hurt in a motorcycle accident before last season, Savage, who was beginning his first year in Cleveland, complained about Browns fans feeling as if their team was jinxed.


Despite Bentley's injury, he said the club has to push on.


"We have to stay above the talk of the negativity and stay above the talk of the Browns have done this or this has happened," he said. "We're going to have the mind-set and frame of mind going forward that we're going to get the job done. We're going to do some great things this season. Life goes on and I think our players realize that."


As Bentley lay on the ground, several of the Browns were reminded of the team's star-crossed history.


"Lee [Suggs] said, 'Another Browns injury,'" said Droughns, who slowed up on the play when he heard someone yell that a player was down.


Crennel and Savage said Bentley's teammates shouldn't let his injury affect the team's chances.


"We're still looking for a good year and I expect a good year. Nothing really has changed," Crennel said after the evening practice. "Any time you lose a Pro Bowl player, you're not quite as good. I told the team that everyone else has to pick up some slack, which I think we'll do."


The Browns signed Bentley to protect second-year quarterback Charlie Frye and help an offense that scored a league-low 232 points last season. After Bentley was signed, the Browns traded center Jeff Faine on draft day to the Saints.


Savage said the club will look to add a free-agent lineman in the next few days to back up Bob Hallen, who will move into Bentley's starting spot.


Crennel did his best to lighten the mood during an interview after practice, but losing Bentley is a devastating blow to the Browns.


For the morning workout, Crennel had his players only wearing shoulder pads, hoping that staying out of full pads on Day 2 of training camp would help them avoid injuries. Crennel said players are reminded to be careful.


"The first general rule is to stay off the ground and protect your teammates," he said. "Sometimes guys will give an extra push in competition. Sometimes they pull a guy down. We talked to them about not giving them that extra push and not pulling guys down."


Bentley took over as the Saints center in training camp two years ago. He started all 16 games in 2004 and was named a Pro Bowl alternate. Last year, he made 14 starts before missing the final two games with an elbow injury.


Bentley, who played at Cleveland's St. Ignatius High School and Ohio State, decided not to re-sign with the Saints for a chance to come home and play for the Browns. He signed a six-year, $36 million deal in March that included $12.5 million in guaranteed money.


At his introductory news conference in Cleveland, Bentley peeled off his sports coat to reveal a Browns No. 00 jersey. He petitioned the league to allow him to wear 00, but was turned down and chose 57.


"He probably wanted to play for the Cleveland Browns as much as anyone we have," Savage said. "We feel real bad for him."

[velocet]

Ok, will you clowns KEEP IT DOWN IN HERE? I need to concentrate and a little peace and quiet would HELP while I put together a draft strategy for the Homer FFL. THANK YOU.





velocet

[Headhunter]

You should ask Jim's wife to help you out!

[indyfrisco]

damn. didn't see that.

[BBMarley]

You should ask Jim's wife to help you out!

Still funny.... LOL

[Dumbass]

Not a stellar crop, I know, but we had 12 in the draft. No one is "loaded".

How small are your leagues usually?



Somebody is loaded and I bet it's safe to say 2-3 teams are loaded but you won't know it until the end of September.

As long as Horn can come back, with Givens as a #3, you look pretty solid to me. We don't know what is going to happen with Lelie right now so the early draft may actually work to your benefit on that card. His current low value may sky rocket soon.

[Dumbass]

DeAngelo Williams (rookie, but should get some PT early and a lot once Foster goes down)

Since we all know this is inevitable, what do you clowns think would be a good round to grab Williams in a keeper league? We are keeping 4 and I have the 5th pick.

I think I may go with Carson Palmer or Tom Brady but am concerned I will lose out on the young RBs if I wait until pick 20. Woudl I be wasting my 5th if I gambled on Williams, anticipating Foster going down?

[indyfrisco]

Dumbass,

Our league has always been 10 people so pretty much everyone had a good bit of quality players.

Anyhow, foxsports.com says D. Williams is listed as the 5th back...on the Panthers depth chart. I don't know how much stock I put into that, but he won't be #5 for long.