Hypothetical Question

[Uncle Fester]

It's always flattering and sometimes tempting as hell when you get the green light, but if you love your wife and kids and want to stay married a certain nagging image always come to mind:



Sex changes everything and there comes a time in a man's life when the big head has to overrule the little head.

Or let me put it another way: Would you be okay with your bro-in-law knocking up your wife?

[Fat Bones]

Regardless of your decision, it should make "getting together for the holidays", a lot more interesting from now on.

[The phantorino]

the sister-in-law was a first team all-state athlete in two sports, is now a fitness trainer, and basically is a POA

Your swimmers probably won't make it to the "target area" then.
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[Louis Cyphre]

88,

If I were in your situation, I would have to say "no" as well, for a couple of reasons:

1: The sister-in-law actually asked you the bang her in front of your wife and her husband.

2: Your wife actually thinks it would be a "good gesture."

Not only is it creepy, but it's a down right bummer. I mean, where is the pursuit, the forbidden, taboo part of adultry. Your sister-in-law has basically taken all the fun out of "cheating."

If they (your in-laws) really wanted your baby batter, they should have slipped you and your wife some Rohypnol, had their way with you, and then drive the 500 miles back home before you ever realized what happened.

[YD]

tell sis in law you are in, but you need to whip up a batch of "88's warming gel"

[L45B]

Wow 88, what an interesting request. Even as a single 20-some year old, I would say not a good idea. In the short term, I see about two good things coming out of this (no pun intended). One, you would be doing a friendly service to your wife's family (at least initially). And two, and probably more important, you would get that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to bang another chick with the wife's (initial) consent.

But after that, shit would be all fucked up for the rest of your life. So basically, you should add that 1%.

But if you did decide to say yes, this would rank right up there with Indecent Proposal & Chasing Amy.

[Cicero]

Also, who's to say that the sex you were going to have was going to be porn star style? What if the deal was straight missionary and a boring 2-3 minutes? She wants your sauce but I'm not so sure her, her husband or your wife want you to knock the bottom out of that ass.

[PSUFAN]

Then you look at her, as straight-faced as you can, and say, "I got confused."

hahahaha

[Dinsdale]

Yup, many RACKs to go around.

But, I'll single out Meds' "GMJO landscape" crack...very nice.

I think it is amazing that we appear to have finally found an issue that everyone agrees on.

Yup, amazing...and wrong. A little dissent is in order.

So 88 -- Sis-in-law is blind, right?

Cause we've seen your pic, dude.

And let me tell you, if I'm looking to breed a leading man to star in a remake of The Elephant Man, I'll look you up.

Otherwise...not so much.

[indyfrisco]

Ok, since the wine has kicked in...I'll ask.

Did you fucks take my reply seriously? Even 88, who I COULD SWEAR knew I was joking, seemed to be a bit concerned about my response.

Dudes, it was a joke.

[Sky]

No, I found it funny but did not for a second think it was serious.

[BBMarley]

And you can't tell me none of you perverted fucks has not tapped the wifes sister, or girlfriends sister, either before or after marriage.

Considering my sisiter in law is a full on lesbian... no. But thought about it.. and her girlfreidns... She and her girlfreinds are all lipstick lesbians.

[OCmike]

There's an easy answer to this..."no." Not just for the reasons that others have posted, but let's just assume that as Bushice said, it ends badly because there's two chicks involved. Your marriage survives, but the In-laws hit splitsville and dude is so pissed about the whole situation that he refuses to pay child support. She takes him to court and he says, "The kid's not mine, so I'm not paying." Your cock gets a summons and suddenly you're out $350+ per month because you tried to make a nice gesture.

[Dinsdale]

She takes him to court and he says, "The kid's not mine, so I'm not paying."

Paternity laws must be A LOT different where you are. A LOT.

'Round these parts(and WA is even worse), that has absolutely NO bearing on whether you have to pay support or not. Basically, if a woman even lists your name on the birth certificate as the father, then you're target #1(and it's happened in cases where the guy has never had sex with the woman...and he can't force her or the progeny to take DNA tests...neat law). If the birth father is broke, or lives out of state, then ANY guy who has ever provided ANY support to the child, in any way, shape, or form, is now on the hook until the kid is 18.


And don't think THAT law doesn't get exploited.

[OCmike]

She takes him to court and he says, "The kid's not mine, so I'm not paying."

Paternity laws must be A LOT different where you are. A LOT.

'Round these parts(and WA is even worse), that has absolutely NO bearing on whether you have to pay support or not. Basically, if a woman even lists your name on the birth certificate as the father, then you're target #1(and it's happened in cases where the guy has never had sex with the woman...and he can't force her or the progeny to take DNA tests...neat law). If the birth father is broke, or lives out of state, then ANY guy who has ever provided ANY support to the child, in any way, shape, or form, is now on the hook until the kid is 18.


And don't think THAT law doesn't get exploited.

I've heard those stories in other states, but have yet to hear of it happening in CA.

[Dinsdale]

I've heard those stories in other states

Washington is BAD. Oregon isn't much better when it comes to that stuff.

A friend's daughter (who lived with said friend at the time...sup preggers at 17) just unloaded on her babydaddy when he showed up to take her for a weekend. He was suprised to be getting greif. She bitched him out, beacuse she hadn't seen a support check in a couple of months, and he wasn't going to see their daughter until he paid up. Dude went out to his truck, pulled out his checkbook, and had copies of the checks he sent to the state. It was at this point the girl realized that he wrote a check to the state for about $275 a month...yet SHE got a check for about $195, or thereabouts.


Unfuckingbelievable. But Washington is a Nazi state, so I guess I'm not shocked.


Moral of the story -- if a politician/"made man" finds a way to work a scam, bet the rent that he will. I mean, what's the welfare of a child, when there's some good pork barrel favoritism to be had?

[Derron]

It was at this point the girl realized that he wrote a check to the state for about $275 a month...yet SHE got a check for about $195, or thereabouts.

Back in the dark days when I was paying child support ( $ 990 per month plus health insurance) the fucking Socialist Republic of Oregon took almost 6 weeks to process a child support check. It got so fucking bad, I had to start getting cashiers checks and fucking drive to Salem and get cash recipits for them. I would show them to the ex and she could deal with the state. The fucks even tried dunning me up when the fucking checks were in a paper pile somewhere in the Kingdoms warehouse.

The reason they subtracted money from Moms check is that she most likely recieved state services and they tap the check to get paid back for any social services mom and brat may have got, before deadbeat Dad started paying.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Paternity laws must be A LOT different where you are. A LOT.

'Round these parts(and WA is even worse), that has absolutely NO bearing on whether you have to pay support or not. Basically, if a woman even lists your name on the birth certificate as the father, then you're target #1(and it's happened in cases where the guy has never had sex with the woman...and he can't force her or the progeny to take DNA tests...neat law). If the birth father is broke, or lives out of state, then ANY guy who has ever provided ANY support to the child, in any way, shape, or form, is now on the hook until the kid is 18.


And don't think THAT law doesn't get exploited.

Washington is BAD. Oregon isn't much better when it comes to that stuff.

A friend's daughter (who lived with said friend at the time...sup preggers at 17) just unloaded on her babydaddy when he showed up to take her for a weekend. He was suprised to be getting greif. She bitched him out, beacuse she hadn't seen a support check in a couple of months, and he wasn't going to see their daughter until he paid up. Dude went out to his truck, pulled out his checkbook, and had copies of the checks he sent to the state. It was at this point the girl realized that he wrote a check to the state for about $275 a month...yet SHE got a check for about $195, or thereabouts.


Unfuckingbelievable. But Washington is a Nazi state, so I guess I'm not shocked.


Moral of the story -- if a politician/"made man" finds a way to work a scam, bet the rent that he will. I mean, what's the welfare of a child, when there's some good pork barrel favoritism to be had?

It doesn't seem to be quite that bad around here, fortunately.

As far as paternity laws work, if a woman is married either at the time of conception, time of birth, or both, there is a rebuttable presumption that her husband is the father of the child. And standing to rebut that presumption is somewhat limited -- the only third party with standing would be another man claiming to be the father of the child. Of course, either party to the marriage has standing to rebut the presumption.

In the case of a child neither born nor conceived in wedlock, an Order of Filiation will only be made either on consent or with a DNA test. It's not quite as simple as "I'm not paying," of course, but at least some level of proof or admission must occur.

As for the method of support payments, my experience has been that the overwhelming majority are made by wage deduction. In New York, child support creditors, the IRS, and student loan creditors are the only creditors who can garnish your wages without first obtaining a judgment against you. I haven't heard any stories of the state helping itself to the support money, but they are notoriously slow in processing payments. I always advise any clients who have a support order entered against them to hold on to their paystubs for quite some time, in case there's any controversy as to whether the payments were made.

[dixie normus]

you said shes a POA?.. well then get drunk, wrap up that rascal, and knock the bottom out of it, its a win win for you!! no kid and you get to bang your hot sis in law...

of course all the questions your wife and bro in law will ask will be a downer, but hey what the fuck!