Jeff George: part deux

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:42 pm

Updated: Aug. 28, 2006, 5:22 PM ET
Raiders sign Jeff George
Associated Press
National Football League News Wire

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders signed Jeff George to a contract Monday, bringing back a player who hasn't thrown an NFL pass in five seasons.

George, the No. 1 overall pick by Indianapolis in 1990, joined the team in time for Monday's afternoon practice. He previously played for the Raiders in 1997-98, starting 23 games and throwing 33 touchdowns and 14 interceptions.

It is not immediately clear what his role will be on the Raiders, who already have Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter and Marques Tuiasosopo on the roster.

George played with the Colts from 1990-93. He was in Atlanta from 1994-96, then spent two seasons with Oakland and one with Minnesota before joining the Redskins in 2000, first as a backup. He was signed by Seattle as insurance midway through the 2002 season, but didn't play. Chicago signed him late in the 2004 season, but he never played for the Bears either.

George, known for his strong arm and clashes with coaches, has a 46-78 career record as a starter and has never lasted longer than four years with any one of them.

George hasn't played since 2001, when he was cut after two games with the Redskins. In his last two games with Washington, George had a quarterback rating of 34.6, completing 23 of 42 passes with three interceptions.

In his next-to-last game with Washington, he and coach Marty Schottenheimer had an animated sideline discussion after George committed four turnovers and was removed from the game.

George also had a sideline argument with coach June Jones when he was with the Atlanta Falcons in 1996, and the team suspended him and then cut him.

George played well his first season in Oakland, throwing for 3,917 yards and 29 touchdowns in 1997. He struggled with injuries the following season, starting only seven games, and was replaced the following season by Rich Gannon, who was a better fit in coach Jon Gruden's West Coast offense.

This story is from ESPN.com's automated news wire. Wire index

Nice to see the Raiders moving forward.

What were negotiations with Rusty Hilger not progressing?

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:48 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even the Black Hole thinks it's Funny

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:49 pm

KC Scott wrote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Even the Black Hole thinks it's Funny

We laugh because we can't cry. :cry:

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:51 pm

Marc Wilson not available?

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:52 pm

Neely8 wrote:Marc Wilson not available?

I'd rather have him than Georgina. BELIEVE me!

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:11 pm

More news out of Oakland where Al Davis, in an effort to bring back the glory days of Raider lore
has just signed Fred Biletnikoff and Jim Plunkett to incentive laden one year deals

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:15 pm

KC Scott wrote:More news out of Oakland where Al Davis, in an effort to bring back the glory days of Raider lore
has just signed Fred Biletnikoff and Jim Plunkett to incentive laden one year deals

RACK Ricky Ricardo and his bad wig!

That bar is one of the best bars period.

Mal · Post by **Mal** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:55 pm

What this signing screams to me is that Tui is on his way out of Oakland.

As well he should be.

Face it Tui has had his opportunities and hasn't grabbed the spotlight. He has done nothing whatsoever over the last two season to even justify a roster spot.

Like it or not Jeff George is a better fit for this offense. I'm more comfortable with a dude who hasn't thrown a regular season pass in years than with our former 2nd round QB.

What does that tell you?

At least George will be able to air out some deep balls for Moss if God forbid he has to play at some point this season.

Tui most likely will wind up bringing coffee to Gruden in Tampa Bay.

19-0 bitches.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:51 am

jossjeff wrote:He has done nothing whatsoever over the last two season to even justify a roster spot.

Didn't do anything in his CFB career to justify it, either, save for provide good leadership/cheerleading skills, provide a ticket-selling name, and throw it to a really really killer reciever who could make my grandmother look like an All-American passer.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:53 am

Vince Evans' line must have been busy.

In other news, wasn't George the guy that scored a ten on the Wonderlic?

Somewhere, Vince Young is smiling.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:02 am

Everybody knows Tuiosointerception is in over his head, what this signing means to me are two things.
Walter's injury is more severe than the RaiDuh's are letting on, and AL would never bring back Carrie Collins and admit he was wrong in letting him go.

As bad as Collins was last year, his performance will "seem good" in comparison to whatever Jeff George will do.

Red · Post by **Red** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:34 am

Is this story from TheOnion.com?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:13 am

R-Jack wrote:Nice to hear that.

The only pleasure I can take from that is another classic line from that window-licker Thiesman.

"The real question is, will he be starting on opening day"

Well? Will he?

Yeah, I caught that dumbass remark too and I don't know if it was meant to be facetious, but neither of the other dorks in that booth took the bait.

The only person happier than JG about this development is his personal luggage carrier and shoe shine boy, Jason Whitlock. I can hear him already waxing ghetto poetic about how is homeboy got over. Fatass has been banging the drum in KC for years that the Chiefs need to sign Jeff George to add that final piece to the puzzle.

What a joke.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:18 am

Joe in PB wrote:Everybody knows Tuiosointerception is in over his head, what this signing means to me are two things.
Walter's injury is more severe than the RaiDuh's are letting on, and AL would never bring back Carrie Collins and admit he was wrong in letting him go.

As bad as Collins was last year, his performance will "seem good" in comparison to whatever Jeff George will do.

Al doesn't have a choice. Collins signed a deal with the Titans today.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:24 am

YES!!!!!!!!

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:01 am

Fuck all the lame smack about the even more lame, old duh qb's that turned this pathetic gig down. The better question is how many legitimate qb candidates turned down this horse shit job, for a once proud, now horse shit organization.

Teams rotate players in and out all the time for insurance, and its never an issue. This story is a non-issue.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:20 am

What's up with this signing ... ?

I see 3 possibilities.

A. Walter's wing is dinged up. This would be VERY troubling, if true. But I hear that Walter practiced on Monday, said he is fine, and is expecting to play v. Seattle.

B. Tui is on his way out. Possibly to be packaged with Porter and sent off ... ?

C. It's just one of the WIERD Raider signings that come around every so often. Al knows that this pre-season has been the big snooze and he wanted to do something to stir some laughs.

So which is it ... ?

I think it's most likely B.
Tui is going to be sent, and J. George will take over the important clipboard holding duty.

Laugh, as we know you will, at the signing, but if B is correct, and Oakland gets something in return for Tui, then replacing him with George is a good move.

If A is correct I will cry.

If C is correct I just smile, shake my head, and move on down the road.

Qbert · Post by **Qbert** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:44 am

kcdave wrote:The better question is how many legitimate qb candidates turned down this horse shit job, for a once proud, now horse shit organization.

WHO Dave????

Quincy Cokin' Carter or Shaun
"whatshisnuts" King??? or, couldn't complete a trade for Rohan Davey???

there ARE NO legit backup QBs available right now.

~Sin

Ken Dorsey
Cleveland Browns

Teams rotate players in and out all the time for insurance, and its never an issue. This story is a non-issue.

BULLSHIT!

its an ISSUE 'cuz even RAIDUHFAN is LAUGHING ITS ASS OFF ABOUT IT!!!!!!!

Jeff freaking George has been signed by the RAIDERS!!!!

CHRIST! poptart tossed his Dick Weber "wristmaster" bowling glove way UP in the South Korean air when he heard the news!

Jeff Hostetler has returned to the treadmill......

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:43 pm

poptart wrote:What's up with this signing ... ?

I see 3 possibilities.

A. Walter's wing is dinged up. This would be VERY troubling, if true. But I hear that Walter practiced on Monday, said he is fine, and is expecting to play v. Seattle.

This is probably the most realistic answer.

B. Tui is on his way out. Possibly to be packaged with Porter and sent off ... ?

Sign Jeff George to replace a 3rd stringer who would never make it on the field if Walter was healthy? Doubtful....

C. It's just one of the WIERD Raider signings that come around every so often. Al knows that this pre-season has been the big snooze and he wanted to do something to stir some laughs.

Yeah, kinda like signing a Bed & Breakfast manager to be your offensive coordinator... :D

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:53 pm

...a couple of snippets from my favorite source..

The Saints also acquired quarterback Drew Brees who is a marked upgrade over Aaron Brooks. Of course, the Raiders thought that the quarterback who wasn’t good enough to beat out Todd Bouman for playing time would be a great addition at the position.

If the Panthers were injury prone before when they were on steroids then now, as they are trying to play clean, they will probably get so far down the depth chart they will be reaching for guys like Jeff George. Just kidding, nobody would be that desperate.

..ah yes, Alice and Raiduh Nation all giddy over their preseason success. It will all come crashing down when the Bolts defense rolls into the Moseleum (their are several ways to spell this, and this might be one of them) on Sept. 11th. (no I won't be there and neither will my lid). Brooks running for his life, George warming up on the sidelines, Arthur standing monolithic playboard in hand, and Alice chugging Vicodin and hiding from the camera that keeps trying to get a shot of him.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:03 am

mvscal wrote:Kinda funny that a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in years is the best QB on your roster.

Who the hell is your quarterback, shit-for-brains ... ?

Oh yeah, that 'new guy' guy who's scheduled to get his balls torn off on 9/11.

Good luck.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:38 pm

mvscal wrote:
poptart wrote:
mvscal wrote:Kinda funny that a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in years is the best QB on your roster.
Who the hell is your quarterback, shit-for-brains ... ?

Oh yeah, that 'new guy' guy who's scheduled to get his balls torn off on 9/11.

Good luck.
No doubt he is quivering in fear of that "ferocious" Raider "defense".

Has anyone had the heart to mention to Al that it isn't 1995 anymore?

Wasn't 1995 the last time the Chargers were even in a Super Bowl?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:41 am

Joe in PB wrote:
poptart wrote:What's up with this signing ... ?

I see 3 possibilities.

A. Walter's wing is dinged up. This would be VERY troubling, if true. But I hear that Walter practiced on Monday, said he is fine, and is expecting to play v. Seattle.
This is probably the most realistic answer.

B. Tui is on his way out. Possibly to be packaged with Porter and sent off ... ?
Sign Jeff George to replace a 3rd stringer who would never make it on the field if Walter was healthy? Doubtful....

C. It's just one of the WIERD Raider signings that come around every so often. Al knows that this pre-season has been the big snooze and he wanted to do something to stir some laughs.
Yeah, kinda like signing a Bed & Breakfast manager to be your offensive coordinator... :D

A,B and C.

The only way this makes any sense is if Walter is temporarily unavailable, Tui is gone, and they are worried about Brooks performing like... Brooks.

Okay, it stil doesn't make that much sense.

Raider Loco · Post by **Raider Loco** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:16 pm

The way it was spun yesterday on the Raider broadcast was that Randy Moss was working with Jeff George during the off season and asked the Raiders to take a look at him. So George can become our 3rd string.......who's 3rd string is better in the league? I still think Al is just a crazy fucker and Tui is another bust draft pick (imagine that).

Anyway preseason is over at Raider camp and our season starts next Monday night vs. the red headed step child of the AFC West. Fuck the Dolts and fuck every single Charger fan who reads this!

GO RAIDERS mother fuckers!

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:04 pm

Raider Loco wrote:The way it was spun yesterday on the Raider broadcast was that Randy Moss was working with Jeff George during the off season and asked the Raiders to take a look at him. So George can become our 3rd string.......who's 3rd string is better in the league? I still think Al is just a crazy fucker and Tui is another bust draft pick (imagine that).

Anyway preseason is over at Raider camp and our season starts next Monday night vs. the red headed step child of the AFC West. Fuck the Dolts and fuck every single Charger fan who reads this!

GO RAIDERS mother fuckers!

RACK

Phillip Leaf will begin his transformation into Ryan II after johnstone and burgess smash his ass in between him throwing 2 picks to Huff and Washington.

Jordan rushes for 110 and catches for another 30 while scoring twice. Brooks, Moss, and Co. go wild on those piles of shit Douchenheimer refers to as "DB's" in thier pathetic secondary.

Raiders-20

Chargettes-10

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:36 am

NOT so fast my friend...

Quick out: Raiders cut newly acquired QB GeorgeESPN.com news services

Less than a week after signing quarterback Jeff George, who hasn't thrown an NFL pass in five years, the Oakland Raiders cut the former No. 1 overall pick.

But the release of George might not necessarily end his comeback attempt and, in fact, may have simply been a procedural move by the Raiders, aimed at not having to guarantee his full salary. Because George is a "vested" veteran, with more than four seasons in the league, the collective bargaining agreement stipulates that his entire base salary is guaranteed if he is on the opening dau roster. By cutting him now, the Raiders avoid that guarantee, of $810,000, and can re-sign George after the opening game. If that happened, and he were released for a second time, Oakland would owe George just the prorated share of his base salary, not the full $810,000. Notable is that the Raiders on Saturday also released veteran backup Marques Tuiasosopo, leaving them with just two quarterbacks, starter Aaron Brooks and second-year backup Andrew Walter, on the roster. That might suggest the Raiders plan to add another quarterback, perhaps by re-signing George.

George, 38, played with the Colts from 1990-93. He was in Atlanta from 1994-96, then spent two seasons with Oakland and one with Minnesota before joining the Redskins in 2000. He was signed by Seattle as insurance midway through the 2002 season, but didn't play. Chicago signed him late in 2004, but he never played for the Bears either.

George, known for his rifle arm and clashes with coaches, has a 46-78 career record as a starter and has never lasted longer than four years with any team. He has thrown for 27,602 yards, with 154 touchdowns and 113 interceptions in his career.

whats going on Al???

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:22 am

poptart wrote:A. Walter's wing is dinged up. This would be VERY troubling, if true. But I hear that Walter practiced on Monday, said he is fine, and is expecting to play v. Seattle.

B. Tui is on his way out. Possibly to be packaged with Porter and sent off ... ?

C. It's just one of the WIERD Raider signings that come around every so often. Al knows that this pre-season has been the big snooze and he wanted to do something to stir some laughs.

So which is it ... ?

Looks like it was C.

No harm in bringing him in.

Death to the Haters.