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Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:10 pm

Well today was the start of dove hunting season here in Washington. I awoke this morning around 5:30 to go out and change water here on the farm,and I expected to hear the ocassional blast of a finely tuned shotgun now and again as the opening day hunting tradition is continued. What I heard was multiple shots per minute. There's a neighboring wheat stubble field about a mile away from where I was changing water that borders the west end of our property and I could hear the shots coming from that area. God there must be a ton of birds over there for that much shooting I thought.

Well,what was going on blew my mind and brought to mind ethicacy questions. A hunting lodge/guiding service had rented the wheat stubble field for guided dove hunts from the farmer who was farming it. All along the east border of this field standing along the weed line were hunters,about every couple hundred feet or so,25 or 30 guys! God Damn it was a fucking masecre.There couldnt be a bird that escaped.

Now Im cool with hunting,but when the NRA and hunting groups start to tell me this shit is OK....I dont know. I think of hunting as a couple of guys or father/son going out, scouting possible spots,and getting permission from a land owner and hunting till there limit is met on a reasonable sized piece of ground.This pay for sucess shit to make city folk feel masculine is BS. BTW...a lot of these pay to hunt guys are rich guys from Seattle or other parts of the over crowded west side of Wa.

Republicans,Of which I am one, and the Farm Bureau tell me all about property rights,and how the farmer or rancher should be able to do whatever with his land. When we fight for the rights of the property owner over the greater good of the comunity is that right?

You know they dont make land anymore,and with the increase of the population,each of us will be squeezed more and more to find the surenity the nature provides.Sucks

All right,im done ranting.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:19 pm

I didn't really need to read beyond the phrase, "guided dove hunt."

That's fukken sad.

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:30 pm

I'm somewhat intrigued by this portion of one of your sentences..
"You know they don't make land anymore.."
What??? More factories being closed down??DAMN!!!!!!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:31 pm

silvurna wrote:I'm somewhat intrigued by this portion of one of your sentences..
"You know they don't make land anymore.."
What??? More factories being closed down??DAMN!!!!!!

It doesn't grow on trees, you know.

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:40 pm

Mikey wrote:
silvurna wrote:I'm somewhat intrigued by this portion of one of your sentences..
"You know they don't make land anymore.."
What??? More factories being closed down??DAMN!!!!!!
It doesn't grow on trees, you know.

I was remiss.....I must have been absent from Forestry/Horticulture class that day...
undoubtedly my fat ass was polishing a bar stool near campus while I swilled Canadian ale.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:05 pm

Is the rich guy from seattle season open yet? I'm pretty sure it is, for bow, anyway.

The phantorino · Post by **The phantorino** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:49 pm

Trampis wrote:Well today was the start of hunting season here in Washington DC. Cheney awoke this morning around 5:30 to go out and nail a lawyer or two.

FTFY

Ang · Post by **Ang** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:36 am

Guided hunting? Is this a hunting trip for ADHD folks? If they aren't getting funding from the Disabilities Act arm of the gov, they are missing a major gravy train opportunity :).

socal · Post by **socal** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:04 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:I didn't really need to read beyond the phrase, "guided dove hunt."

That's fukken sad.

This is what it sounds like when Fester cries.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:08 pm

I would imagine those probalby were all pen raised and released doves.

Unless its like some of the dove hunts in Texas and Mexico where the fucking doves come over in waves and you jsut whack and stack them.

That is your neighbor farmer, getting paid to put his land in CRP, then lease out hunting rights to some guides, who specialize in getting those RMF's over from Seattle to spend their money.

I have not hunted doves in years....mother fuckers fly wayyyy to fast to hit, there ain't no fucking meat on them, and standing in a fence row on a broiling September day seems stupid to me.

Now in my area.... there is a ton of land that is in flood plain or partial flood plain. Devlopers are building developments and have to purchase mitigation rights, and build replacement wetlands. You can sell the mitigation rights to a developer,( for a lot of money) retain ownership of the land, get Ducks Unlimted to fund building the new wetlands, then rent the wetlands out for hunting for about $ 250 a day PER GUN.

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:I didn't really need to read beyond the phrase, "guided dove hunt."

That's fukken sad.

By guided hunt Im actually talking about not so much a guide helping you as I am stating that you are buying the right to use land to hunt on. A LOT of farmers are starting to lease there land out in the winter to hunting clubs or guiding services to serve there clients. Prime spots along the Columbia or Snake river are the most coveted. I think some guys pull in enough money renting hunting rights during the winter that they plant the much goose loved corn over and over year after year. Hunting rights in some cases are more profitable then farming the land itself.

Its geting to be where if one wants to hunt he either goes to a crowded public site or pays a guide or club so he can have access to some rented primo land. Hunting, by way of excessive cost, is becoming an elitist sport.Thats my beef.

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:58 pm

Walking around in the mud and shit, worrying about being shot in my Cheney, gas up there and back, lunch at some greasy spoon that leaves you with the squirts for 3 1/2 days, all for the love of being an American hunting man.

Safeway has Cornish game Hens on sale for $2.39 lb, a short rack of Mirror Pond, and you're back home in your chair in 28 minutes.

Tough choice for old Luth.

Rip City

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:18 pm

Luther wrote:Walking around in the mud and shit, worrying about being shot in my Cheney, gas up there and back, lunch at some greasy spoon that leaves you with the squirts for 3 1/2 days, all for the love of being an American hunting man.

Safeway has Cornish game Hens on sale for $2.39 lb, a short rack of Mirror Pond, and you're back home in your chair in 28 minutes.

Tough choice for old Luth.

Rip City

I think there is something to be said for having fun in just being involved and being there. Else why do anything? You can buy fish at Krogers..so no fishing. You can watch a video of snow skiing..so no Park City, etc. etc.

But I understand the source. You've had your day old man... :P

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:12 am

88 wrote:I don't mean to sound stupid (whoops), but how does one change water, and why do you do it? What does it change into?

Either a gas a solid structure like ice. Maybe that's what he meant.

What's worse are the "road hunters" that drive around and shoot from their trucks.

Last time I went hunting I was still in the USN working out of NAS North Island. A college buddy that was a SEAL suggested we drive south of El Centro near the border. Lots of fields down there but almost all were restricted with no hunting allowed. So we go north to Niland next to the Salton Sea, which is where the SEALs do their weapons training among other things. Out in the middle of the desert we are blasting away while walking along a big canal. I fired a few shots and then I see a head pop up from the brush. Some drifter/homeless guy was living at least 5 miles from civilization and had a tent and a tarp for shade along side the canal. Then I walk over closer and see a big 3 foot pile of empty tin cans next to his shelters and then see he made steps to go down into the canal for bathing and water.

Apparently, there is a small population of these folks out in the wilderness... in the middle of nowhere. My buddy said they are there because there is no law around. I guess I gave him a wake up call early that morning as it rained #8 shot in his living quarters. I'll never forget seeing that scraggly blonde hair and beard popping up to what what just happened. That still trips me out people live like that.

We got a few doves and contrary to opinion here, they have plenty of meat on them unless they are city birds.

Flawed Logic · Post by **Flawed Logic** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:13 am

I've never paid to hunt. Having my own private land in South Dakota pays for itself, even before the rent checks from the cattle ranchers and silage farmers.
I've already got my plane tickets for mid-October - pheasant season!

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:20 am

88 wrote:I don't mean to sound stupid (whoops), but how does one change water, and why do you do it? What does it change into?

Ive got a bit of antiquated farm as I have wheelines. Every twelve hours I move them sixty feet to a new spot to water.Kinda of like watering your yard with hoses and sprinklers. Every so often you move the sprinklers about,thus "changing" there position.

Glad I could be of help.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:02 am

each of us will be squeezed more and more to find the surenity the nature provides

I never get surenity when I'm squeezed. It's either a gas a solid structure.

Damn the nature.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:14 pm

Flawed Logic wrote:I've never paid to hunt. Having my own private land in South Dakota pays for itself, even before the rent checks from the cattle ranchers and silage farmers.
I've already got my plane tickets for mid-October - pheasant season!

wanna be fliends?

YD · Post by YD » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:50 pm

would dropping weighted tnt into high altitude lakes be considered unethical fish harvesting?

If so , I'm guilty because the 6 trout I caught in my net saturday never touched a hook and line

btw

fuck those fenceline tards. I have buddies that guide hunts, and have tagged along a few times. His hunts are nothing like that line up and blast crap, but you never turn your back on the clientel for fear of em "peppering" you by accident.

there are still places out in the high desert here where a guy can go out by himself about 7pm on a fall weeknight, blast a few doves, tear out the breasteses and have em in the sautee pan by 8:30. unless there's bull bats.

fukk bull bats

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:54 pm

diT wrote:
Flawed Logic wrote:I've never paid to hunt. Having my own private land in South Dakota pays for itself, even before the rent checks from the cattle ranchers and silage farmers.
I've already got my plane tickets for mid-October - pheasant season!
wanna be fliends?

No shit -

We had phenominal place out by White Lake that was lost to lease - They're getting $200 per day per gun.

Now we're talking about going to Aberdeen -
Yikes- There's another 3 hours and we don't know what the bird situation looks like up there

Flawed - where do you hunt?

Trampis · Post by **Trampis** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:30 pm

timmay wrote:
there are still places out in the high desert here where a guy can go out by himself about 7pm on a fall weeknight, blast a few doves, tear out the breasteses and have em in the sautee pan by 8:30. unless there's bull bats.

fukk bull bats

Rack eating your harvest fresh!

Whats this bull bat thing you speak of?

YD · Post by YD » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:51 pm

they actually aint bats at all

they have a weird wing shape and flapping motion that is very bat like. They can be agressive towards other bird and real bats. They'll fly way up high and chirp at their unwanted guests, then dive freefall right at the unsuspecting dove, or other bird. When they fall they make this weird fluttering sound with some skin flap or sumpdin.

fukken scares the doves away for miles.

cool birds to watch when hiking or fishing.

gax if you hunting doves

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:40 pm

If you google “bull bat”, a lot of the links say “See GOATSUCKER”. Then when you google goatsucker, you get a picture of Cuda.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:24 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:If you google “bull bat”, a lot of the links say “See GOATSUCKER”. Then when you google goatsucker, you get a picture of Cuda.

You like to throw stones. Why at me? I made your wife cum. That at least made her happy, so why the grind?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:40 am

The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:If you google “bull bat”, a lot of the links say “See GOATSUCKER”. Then when you google goatsucker, you get a picture of Cuda.

You like to throw stones. Why at me? I made your wife cum. That at least made her happy, so why the grind?

So you're a Cuda troll? That would certainly explain your pathetic posting history.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:05 am

Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:If you google “bull bat”, a lot of the links say “See GOATSUCKER”. Then when you google goatsucker, you get a picture of Cuda.

You like to throw stones. Why at me? I made your wife cum. That at least made her happy, so why the grind?
So you're a Cuda troll? That would certainly explain your pathetic posting history.

Nope. Not a Cuda troll.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:18 am

The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
You like to throw stones. Why at me? I made your wife cum. That at least made her happy, so why the grind?
So you're a Cuda troll? That would certainly explain your pathetic posting history.

Nope. Not a Cuda troll.

Really? Funny how you weren't even mentioned in this thread, yet when I called Cuda a bad name, you rushed in wondering why I was throwing stones at you. Well, you're shitty enough to be a Cuda troll. You got that going for you.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:22 am

Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: So you're a Cuda troll? That would certainly explain your pathetic posting history.

Nope. Not a Cuda troll.
Really? Funny how you weren't even mentioned in this thread, you rushed in

Maybe I'm stalking you......

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:26 am

The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
Nope. Not a Cuda troll.
Really? Funny how you weren't even mentioned in this thread, you rushed in

Maybe I'm stalking you......

What the hell, it's not like you've got anything else to do with your time.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:31 am

Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Really? Funny how you weren't even mentioned in this thread, you rushed in

Maybe I'm stalking you......
What the hell, it's not like you've got anything else to do with your time.

Goober - Posts 2549.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:35 am

The Seer wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
The Seer wrote:
Maybe I'm stalking you......
What the hell, it's not like you've got anything else to do with your time.

Goober - Posts 2549.

Goober - employed.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:31 am

Goober - employed

Lemme Guess...........

You work at one of them trendy upscale Hy Colonic Salons.
Buy one enema bag and get free refills from ole Goob......

heh heh...

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:58 pm

Y2K wrote:
Goober - employed
Lemme Guess...........

You work at one of them trendy upscale Hy Colonic Salons.
Buy one enema bag and get free refills from ole Goob......

heh heh...

I knew he would get promoted after 10 yrs.....

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:15 pm

Y2K wrote:
Goober - employed
Lemme Guess...........

You work at one of them trendy upscale Hy Colonic Salons.
Buy one enema bag and get free refills from ole Goob......

heh heh...

We hired The Seer as a nozzle-cleaner. You’d think he’d be happy to just use soap and water, but no, he has to add his own personal touch. Gives new meaning to the term “lip service”, while adding to his natural inclination to talk shit.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:52 pm

Y2K wrote:
Goober - employed
Hy Colonic

I think that was one of Goobers trolls from the Honksville era. Not positive though. It might have been me. :)

T1B

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