Muslim fury grows at Pope's speech
Last updated at 13:42pm on 15th September 2006
Muslim activists burn an effigy of Pope Benedict XVI during a protest in Srinagar, India.
The furore over comments made by Pope Benedict about the Islamic concept of Holy War continues to grow. Today British Muslims joined in, fiercely criticising his remarks.
The pontiff was accused of falling into "the trap of bigots and racists" with the comments he made on a visit to Germany.
Last night Vatican officials were scrambling to defend the comments, saying the Pope had never intended to offend Muslims.
During a speech, he quoted a 14th century Byzantine emperor who said the prophet Mohammed had brought "things only evil and inhuman".
But Britain's Ramadhan Foundation, a youth organisation based in Rochdale, reacted angrily to the comments, comparing the Pope unfavourably to his predecessor John Paul II.
In a statement it said: "If the Pope wanted to attack Islam and Prophet Muhammad teachings he could have been brave enough to say it personally without quoting a 14th century Byzantine Christian emperor.
"The late Pope John Paul II spent over 25 years to build bridges and links with the Muslim community. He showed the world that its perception of Islam was false and that we are peace-loving people.
"The Ramadhan Foundation is disappointed that the current Pope has not followed the example of his predecessor; it is essential in today's world that we link together and encourage a wider understanding of our different faiths, celebrating our religious differences is essential in a ever expanding world."
Muhammad Umar, chairman of the foundation, said: "This attack on Islam and Prophet Muhammad by Pope Benedict is recognition that he has fallen into the trap of the bigots and racists when it comes to judging Islam on the actions of a small number of extreme elements."
The Pope's speech quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an educated Persian on the truths of Christianity and Islam.
"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the Pope said.
"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached'."
Benedict described the phrases on Islam as "brusque", while neither explicitly agreeing with nor repudiating them.
Pakistan's parliament condemned the "derogatory" remarks today and demanded an apology. The country's foreign ministry said they were "regrettable" and claimed they would encourage violence.
Vatican spokesman the Rev Federico Lombardi issued a statement defending the speech after Pope Benedict returned to Rome. "It certainly wasn't the intention of the Pope to carry out a deep examination of jihad (holy war) and on Muslim thought on it, much less to offend the sensibility of Muslim believers," he said.
He insisted that the pontiff wanted to "cultivate an attitude of respect and dialogue toward the other religions and cultures, obviously also toward Islam".
But Turkey's top Islamic cleric Ali Bardakoglu asked Benedict to apologise and made a string of accusations against Christianity, raising tensions ahead of a planned papal visit to the country in November.
He said he was deeply offended by the remarks and called them "extraordinarily worrying, saddening and unfortunate".
The 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference, based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, said it regretted "the Pope's quote and for the other falsifications". Militant Islamic websites also attacked the Pope
Is there ANYTHING that doesn't offend the muzzies?
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Is there ANYTHING that doesn't offend the muzzies?
Aside from suicide bombings, head choppings & airline hijackings, that is
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The only difference between Cuda and the muzzies is a matter of degree.
When the muzzies get offended off they burn effigies, shoot guns in the air and stuff.
When Cudes gets offended off he just posts a C&P.
I'll have to say, the muzzies are hella more fun.
When the muzzies get offended off they burn effigies, shoot guns in the air and stuff.
When Cudes gets offended off he just posts a C&P.
I'll have to say, the muzzies are hella more fun.
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Okay, so they flew off the handle with the Danish cartoons, but I can see where they'd get pissed off about this. If the Muslim Imams started slamming Jesus, it's not like you wouldn't hear christian leaders getting pissed. Granted, the Christers wouldn't be in the street burning shit because of it...
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I WOULD DECLARE BAPTIST JIHAD!Okay, so they flew off the handle with the Danish cartoons, but I can see where they'd get pissed off about this. If the Muslim Imams started slamming Jesus, it's not like you wouldn't hear christian leaders getting pissed. Granted, the Christers wouldn't be in the street burning shit because of it...
I WOULD PREVENT THE MUSLIMS FROM DANCING AND MAKE THEM WEAR GREEN SPORTCOATS!
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The late Pope John Paul II spent over 25 years to build bridges and links with the Muslim community. He showed the world that its perception of Islam was false and that we are peace-loving people.
ok.....pick just one. You can't be both peace loving and violent.The country's foreign ministry said they were "regrettable" and claimed they would encourage violence.
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A German racist?!? I ain't buyin' it!
Sin,

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And we all know that it takes a helluva lotta encouragement before those kind, peace-loving folks turn to violence.Pakistan's parliament condemned the "derogatory" remarks today and demanded an apology. The country's foreign ministry said they were "regrettable" and claimed they would encourage violence.
Wonder what they'd think of this:
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Thursday, August 03, 2006
Mahomet the Pædophile Prophet
by Baron Bodissey
Continuing in our new role as a clearinghouse for Mock-the-Muslims humor, Gates of Vienna presents the following piece of light verse, composed by Edward M. Bridle of Newcastle, Australia:
Mahomet the Pædophile Prophet
Mahomet, Mahomet the pædophile prophet
Rode on a camel until he fell off it.
Up went his heels and he fell on his head.
Everyone thought that Mahomet was dead,
But “A blow to the head is so good for the brains,”
Mahomet the pædophile prophet explains.
Mahomet, Mahomet the pædophile prophet
Said he saw angels. They all said “Come off it.
“It’s all the result of that blow to the head.
“You ought to be seeing a doctor instead.”
But “It’s not a delusion. My vision persists,”
Mahomet the pædophile prophet insists.
Mahomet, Mahomet the pædophile prophet
Heard them all laughing. Mahomet said “Stop it!”
He jumped on his camel and rode far away.
He said “I’ll return and get vengeance some day.
“They’ve got no respect for my poor, aching brains,”
Mahomet the pædophile prophet complains.
* * * * *
Mahomet, Mahomet the pædophile prophet
Thought up a plan, and thought nothing could top it.
“If they won’t believe me, I’ll kill them all dead.
“If anyone laughs, then I’ll chop off his head.
“It’s not a delusion if no-one complains,”
Mahomet the pædophile prophet maintains.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Readers with Terpsichorean skills might consider setting these lines to music…
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Fucking hell, Cuda...is there ANY news story about Muslims that you can't resist jumping on and humping the fuck out of?
I'd like to know what Pope Benedickhead said after he uncorked that quote, but either way, he's a fuckwit.
Personally, I'm bored with religious leaders playing 'My Imaginary God Is Better Than Your Imaginary God'.
I'd like to know what Pope Benedickhead said after he uncorked that quote, but either way, he's a fuckwit.
Personally, I'm bored with religious leaders playing 'My Imaginary God Is Better Than Your Imaginary God'.
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Oh, Irony...Nishlord wrote:Fucking hell, Cuda...is there ANY news story about Muslims that you can't resist jumping on and humping the fuck out of?
I'd like to know what Pope Benedickhead said after he uncorked that quote, but either way, he's a fuckwit.
Personally, I'm bored with religious leaders playing 'My Imaginary God Is Better Than Your Imaginary God'.
But nevermind. YOU'VE got a gay bar down the street from your office, so you obviously have bode on the Vatican
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The Gay down the street of the office I worked in years ago was real. I'm still waiting for proof on God. And anyway, if someone of the Pope's standing commented on the percieved violence inherent in American culture, I'm sure you'd be the first to weigh in with a reasoned, well thought-out comment.
That Pope effigy on the news last night was bang out of order, though. I think they'd got him mixed up with Rayden out of Mortal Kombat.
That Pope effigy on the news last night was bang out of order, though. I think they'd got him mixed up with Rayden out of Mortal Kombat.
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If your implication is that because he was born in Austria, he wasn't German, then I guess it's fair to say that Henry Kissinger and Arnold Schwarzenegger aren't Americans. Yeah, maybe I'm stretching things here, but I think being granted German citizenship and becoming German Chancellor qualified ol' Adolf as being ... German!Moving Sale wrote:Too bad he was Austrian.Smackie Chan wrote:A German racist?!? I ain't buyin' it!
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Feel free to stick to discussions about other topics about which you're ignorant, like plane crashes.
"German" identity is not what you seem to think, TVO. An Austrian Hitler was every bit as "German" as was a Bavarian farmer.
In German culture, "German" identity is not, and never has been, defined by borders such as the one that exists between Austria and Germany today.
The point is, it's wrong to assume that Austrians are not "German". The name itself, Österreich, means "eastern realm". Bavarians are Bavarians...Swabians are Swabians...Saxons are Saxons, Linzers are Linzers - all are "German".
In German culture, "German" identity is not, and never has been, defined by borders such as the one that exists between Austria and Germany today.
The point is, it's wrong to assume that Austrians are not "German". The name itself, Österreich, means "eastern realm". Bavarians are Bavarians...Swabians are Swabians...Saxons are Saxons, Linzers are Linzers - all are "German".
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Now I'm sure of it.
Muslims grow the worst beards in the history of facial hair. Hell, my granny's 4 whiskers on the end of her chin looks better than the collection of vermin glued to the chins of that rabble rousing lot. Time to come up with a turban that covers everything from the scalp to the middle of the back.
Muslims grow the worst beards in the history of facial hair. Hell, my granny's 4 whiskers on the end of her chin looks better than the collection of vermin glued to the chins of that rabble rousing lot. Time to come up with a turban that covers everything from the scalp to the middle of the back.
I actually walked past that bar today on a rare sojurn to London. Only sheer willpower, a sense of decency inate in all Englishmen, and the fact that he doesn't live there anymore stopped me from going to the toilets and writing warren's phone number on the wall.Mister Bushice wrote:Take one up the ass in the bathroom from one of the boys in the bar down the street and you'll be calling out for him to help you for sure.Nishlord wrote:The Gay down the street of the office I worked in years ago was real. I'm still waiting for proof on God.
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Catholics don't give a shit what you think, either...and (sorry to ruin your day) I'm quite sure that Christianity will survive, with or without your approval.Mississippi Neck wrote:I dont give a shit what the Muslims think about what the Pope said...nor do I give a shit about what the Pope says.
The Catholic Church has screwed up Christianity more than the Muslims ever could.
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If you read it without getting riled up, you would see that I am slamming the Vatican not Catholics in general. I think the powers to be in Rome have steered their flock to believe blindly in their version of the "Truth and the Way". Blind allegiance to some old fart dressed in robes in Rome is not, in my opinion, what Jesus would have wanted. Just sayin..
And again, if you had read closer I didn't say anything about the survival of Christianity. It can and will survive anything the Vatican can throw at it. Dont get your altar boy panties in a wad, ok?
And again, if you had read closer I didn't say anything about the survival of Christianity. It can and will survive anything the Vatican can throw at it. Dont get your altar boy panties in a wad, ok?
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Maybe they were chanting "OTSP" yes?JCT wrote:
OR, this could be like those Ryan Newman NASCAR commercials where he shaves a #12 into The Young Guns' unshaven faces, but the Muzzie prank was to tape on bad beards in a commercial for Al-Jizzeara?
OR, they were just angry that day?
They just need to lighten up.
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Slam the Pope, you're slamming Catholics "in general", ok?
Say what you want about the short comings of Catholicism, but these folks have a LOT going for them. They must have been doing something right these past 2000 years.
That said, I'm not a practicing Catholic...nor do I partake of any religion other than my own personal relationship with the power greater than me that I choose to call God....but I was raised Catholic, and will be damned before I let anyone get by with blaspheming my mothers faith unchallenged.
Say what you want about the short comings of Catholicism, but these folks have a LOT going for them. They must have been doing something right these past 2000 years.
That said, I'm not a practicing Catholic...nor do I partake of any religion other than my own personal relationship with the power greater than me that I choose to call God....but I was raised Catholic, and will be damned before I let anyone get by with blaspheming my mothers faith unchallenged.
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