How long before Dan Hawkins...

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:20 pm

... pulls those powder-blue jerseys from 1981 out of mothballs?

Dude looks like Chuck Fairbanks all over again

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:30 pm

the Buff boards were rife with "which was the worst loss in CU history" in week I. Montana State, who has subsequently lost to Chadron State and got beat 45-zip by somebody else*** last week....or Chuckies back-to-back losses to Drake. CSU also got waxed by Nevada this weekend as well.

i watched the CU-ASU playback on Fox last night here in Denver and they've improved alot since week I, especially on D. but for all the run and gun mojo Hawkins was yapping about since he got hired they are dreadful on offense. but, no real QB and no wideouts.

doesn't get any easier travelling to UGA next week.

3 wins at this point would be a VERY optimistic prediction in my view. as an impartial observer, i wouldn't give up on Hawkins yet.

edit: ***UC-Davis

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:36 pm

Shelling out $2 million (in 1979 dollards) to bring in Fairbanks would probably rate as more expensive than the $3 million they coughed up to send Barnett on his way, but pissing away that kind of money to change football coaches has "disaster" written all over it. You'd think they'd have learned the first time

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:45 pm

Cuda wrote:Shelling out $2 million (in 1979 dollards) to bring in Fairbanks would probably rate as more expensive than the $3 million they coughed up to send Barnett on his way, but pissing away that kind of money to change football coaches has "disaster" written all over it. You'd think they'd have learned the first time

the AD is strapped anyway, they borrowed 8 million or something from the University over the summer. while it's a really great looking structure (truly)....the old AD, Tharp's knee-jerk decision to build the Folsom Field stadium addition and luxury boxes after the 01 Big XII championship.....is looking like a colossal financial blunder. all of which is keeping Ricardo Patton employed...

i guess losing to a D1-AA school, your instate rival....are simply problems that "agressive marketing strategies" and pasting "new" CU logos and hanging banners everywhere so campus looks like Il Duce's Italy or Nuremberg...don't solve.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:53 pm

Speaking of logos, they could get rid of the "galloping pig" ( a Fairbanks invention) any time and go back to the old block letters

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:56 pm

King Crimson wrote:the Buff boards were rife with "which was the worst loss in CU history" in week I. Montana State, who has subsequently lost to Chadron State

Chardon is D2.....

Haha.... I wish UNA wouldve played Colorado this year.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:58 pm

I think the number i saw in the paper was Chadron has 26 scholarship players. that's almost as many non-scholly players as a Bill Callahan spring game.

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:02 pm

The most you can have in D2 is 36, I think. Most cant even supply that many to there players

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 pm

I still think Hawkin is a damn good coach that will turn that program around. I expect to see the program do a little better by the end of the season and then next year do a lot better. By year three they will be really good. Right now they are trying to get a square peg into a round hole.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:44 pm

I was hoping you'd work in a "hotdog down a hallway" reset, Vito

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:53 pm

Mr T wrote:The most you can have in D2 is 36, I think. Most cant even supply that many to there players

Chadron is out in the country in Nebraska, they don't fill-out the full Div2 allotment. They are somewhere in the low-to-mid 20's.

I still think Hawkins was a good hire. Dude turned Boise into a quality program, he should be able to do it at Boulder. At least after the abysmal start they are playing decent defense anyway, 21pts vs ASU is nice. The O obviously needs major work though. Whether it will improve significantly by season-end is questionable. Unfortunately as they improve through their noncon sched they keep playing harder teams so they keep on losing.

I see 2-10 or 3-9. Things should click more during the conference sched, enough to eke a few wins anyway.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:01 pm

Danimal wrote:
Mr T wrote:The most you can have in D2 is 36, I think. Most cant even supply that many to there players
Chadron is out in the country in Nebraska, they don't fill-out the full Div2 allotment. They are somewhere in the low-to-mid 20's.

I still think Hawkins was a good hire. Dude turned Boise into a quality program, he should be able to do it at Boulder. At least after the abysmal start they are playing decent defense anyway, 21pts vs ASU is nice. The O obviously needs major work though. Whether it will improve significantly by season-end is questionable. Unfortunately as they improve through their noncon sched they keep playing harder teams so they keep on losing.

I see 2-10 or 3-9. Things should click more during the conference sched, enough to eke a few wins anyway.

while i agree with your post and your Italian friend, Koetter had success at Boise before Hawkins became HC.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:20 pm

Ya Koetter had some success there, and so did Nutt actually. But Hawkins really put them on the map, getting them in the top25 and repeatedly winning WAC-championships. How many folks really knew anything about Boise before Hawkins? Some did, but not very many.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:51 pm

easy to turn it around at boise.

turning it around in a power conference is tougher, they will have to fight for every prospect out there, even the instate kids are going to be tough to keep(see mizzou before recent years). noone wants to play for a losing team, regardless of the coach.

CU will be ok, but hawkins has a lot to prove.